zoom vs jean grey

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#1 Posted by moocowwoof (18 posts) - - Show Bio

fight takes place in a football stadium they start 100 yards apart zoom is on the ground and jean is flying 50 yards in the air jean has the phoenix force who wins and why?

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#2 Posted by capall (8206 posts) - - Show Bio

........... in the air? ............. phoenix force? ...............
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#3 Posted by CosmicSpiral (5474 posts) - - Show Bio

Zoom. 

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#4 Posted by angryvigilante (1866 posts) - - Show Bio

My god Jean destroys Zoom so bad here.

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#5 Posted by Zoom (14751 posts) - - Show Bio

Zoom throws a football at Jean and knocks her head off.
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#6 Posted by capall (8206 posts) - - Show Bio
@Zoom said:
"Zoom throws a football at Jean and knocks her head off. "

lmao
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#7 Posted by MKF30 (11750 posts) - - Show Bio

Zoom
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#8 Posted by geraldthesloth (32690 posts) - - Show Bio

zZzZZZzzzZzzzZZZooooooooommMMmmMmm

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#9 Posted by TheJuggernautpunch (6148 posts) - - Show Bio

Zoom .

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#10 Posted by Son Of Storm (11534 posts) - - Show Bio

Jean.
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#11 Posted by Son Of The Northwind (295 posts) - - Show Bio

Curbstomp all the way from the states to Paris.
 
 



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#12 Posted by Galactusischere (424 posts) - - Show Bio

As much as I dislike Phoenix, she stomps here.
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#13 Posted by Son Of The Northwind (295 posts) - - Show Bio

Actually even goes with the snip of a finger
 
 


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#14 Edited by Galactusischere (424 posts) - - Show Bio

So you think Zoom can defeat a starving Galactus?
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#15 Posted by angryvigilante (1866 posts) - - Show Bio

Jean with phoenix and in the air Zoom has no chance in hell and Zoom fanboys stop being like those Storm fans.

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#16 Posted by Son Of The Northwind (295 posts) - - Show Bio

Zoom isn't in the timeline, theres nothing Jean can do here. 
 
@Galactusischere said:

" So you think Zoom and defeat a starving Galactus? "
didn't say it no
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#17 Posted by CosmicSpiral (5474 posts) - - Show Bio

When does the PF give someone enhanced reflexes?

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#18 Posted by Morpheus_ (34802 posts) - - Show Bio
@angryvigilante said:
" Jean with phoenix and in the air Zoom has no chance in hell and Zoom fanboys stop being like those Storm fans. "
Yes, because this entire place is full of swarming Zoom fanboys.
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#19 Posted by Son Of The Northwind (295 posts) - - Show Bio
@CosmicSpiral: wouldn't matter against zoom, imagine if you would stop time, and punch someone in the face, and then let time go again, what would that look like?
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#20 Posted by angryvigilante (1866 posts) - - Show Bio
@Morpheus_: Yes.....yes it is.
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#21 Posted by Morpheus_ (34802 posts) - - Show Bio
@angryvigilante said:
" @Morpheus_: Yes.....yes it is. "
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#22 Posted by CosmicSpiral (5474 posts) - - Show Bio
@Son Of The Northwind said:
" @CosmicSpiral: wouldn't matter against zoom, imagine if you would stop time, and punch someone in the face, and then let time go again, what would that look like? "
What are you talking about? I said the Phoenix Force doesn't automatically give enhanced reflexes.
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#23 Posted by angryvigilante (1866 posts) - - Show Bio

Isn't Phoenix in the air, last time I checked Zoom can fly?

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#24 Posted by Son Of The Northwind (295 posts) - - Show Bio
@CosmicSpiral: And i said it doesnt matter lol maybe got me wrong on that 
 
@angryvigilante:
quick review on zoom's powers 
 


 
He has all the time in the world to built a 50 feet ladder and just run up it and punch her in the face

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#25 Posted by Son Of The Northwind (295 posts) - - Show Bio

pardon me, yards.

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#26 Posted by CosmicSpiral (5474 posts) - - Show Bio
@Son Of The Northwind: I'm pretty sure we both agree Zoom will win. 
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#27 Posted by Son Of The Northwind (295 posts) - - Show Bio

yup

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#28 Posted by Static Shock (53046 posts) - - Show Bio

Zoom wins.
 
Those that claim the site is full of Zoom fanboys obviously don't understand or ignore how his powers work.

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#29 Edited by Galactusischere (424 posts) - - Show Bio

 
So let me get this straight, a weaker Green Phoenix manages to defeat a starving Galactus, yet a more powerful Green Phoenix loses to a high-herald level character? Who would barely defeat Silver Surfer? 
Makes sense.

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#30 Edited by warlock360 (28189 posts) - - Show Bio

Phoenix cant stop time, and therefore ultimately loses to someone who (in theory wouldn't even be effected by it but I'll leave it out so your brain can compute this) is abroad the timeline phoenix is, and simply sees her as a standstill, a statue, nothing moving at all, and then, all he needs to do is punch her, and viola!

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#31 Posted by jacobyLIVE (1983 posts) - - Show Bio

Zzzzzooommmmmmwwwwwiinnsshhheeerre

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#32 Posted by angryvigilante (1866 posts) - - Show Bio
@Static Shock: I understand his powers and know he is not unbeatable. This is phoenix no slouch.  She could destroy the planet with a thought, the way people talk about Zoom to think he is God or something
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#33 Posted by warlock360 (28189 posts) - - Show Bio
@angryvigilante: 
 
do you know how Zoom was stopped? and is probably the only way being able to stop him?
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#34 Posted by Static Shock (53046 posts) - - Show Bio
@angryvigilante said:
" @Static Shock: I understand his powers and know he is not unbeatable. This is phoenix no slouch.  She could destroy the planet with a thought, the way people talk about Zoom to think he is God or something "
He can be beat, but there are circumstances (without PIS) that are required to be him. Time manipulation or to have your speed and reflexes amped to infinite speed levels (or where time appears to stop). Even if Jean can destroy the planet by thinking it, thinking requires time and Zoom is doesn't live within her timeline. He's ahead of it and manipulates how fast or slow he moves along it. Jean, to Zoom, will look like a statue, thus giving him enough time to take advantage of the fight.
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#35 Posted by Roman (155 posts) - - Show Bio
@angryvigilante said:
" @Static Shock: I understand his powers and know he is not unbeatable. This is phoenix no slouch.  She could destroy the planet with a thought, the way people talk about Zoom to think he is God or something "
We know phoniex isnt a slouch but because she doesnt affect time she loses she is still connected to a human body and he could simply knock her out... and Zoom is far from a God.
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#36 Edited by Galactusischere (424 posts) - - Show Bio

Umm... wasn't White phoenix outside of time and space? I know that this Phoenix is much weaker, but how do we know that she wouldn't be able to manipulate time? I mean heralds of Galactus have time travelled in the past.
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#37 Posted by Static Shock (53046 posts) - - Show Bio
@Galactusischere said:
" Umm... wasn't White phoenix outside of time and space? I know that this Phoenix is much weaker, but how do we know that she wouldn't be able to manipulate time? I mean heralds of Galactus have time travelled in the past. "
You have legitimate evidence of her manipulating time, on panel? I'd like to see it.
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#38 Posted by angryvigilante (1866 posts) - - Show Bio
@Voidheart: He was beaten a few times if my memory can recall 
@Static Shock:  So anytime he was hit etc it was all pis? What would be your theory on zoom vs galactus?
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#39 Edited by warlock360 (28189 posts) - - Show Bio

And that my friend, she has never done. It wouldn't even matter since Zoom is caught in his own time bubble.

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#40 Posted by Static Shock (53046 posts) - - Show Bio
@angryvigilante said:
" @Static Shock:  So anytime he was hit etc it was all pis?
If the circumstances mentioned weren't the reason for him getting tagged, then yes. PIS. I don't think Galactus is relevant to this discussion, as Zoom doesn't have a way to actually beat him. 
 

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#41 Posted by Static Shock (53046 posts) - - Show Bio
@angryvigilante said:
" @Voidheart: He was beaten a few times if my memory can recall 
The only way that he's legitimately lost was against Wally West (who was powered up by Jesse Quick's already amped speed via the Speed Force equation, thus pushing him to infinite speed levels). Other instances of Zoom's loses against Wonder Woman and Jesse Quick (who had her speed at normal levels for a Speed Force speedster) are PIS, when Zoom thrashes Flashes at normal levels without them being powered up.
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#42 Posted by warlock360 (28189 posts) - - Show Bio
@angryvigilante:  there were two zooms, one, called "professor Zoom" who was essentially just the counterpart of the speed force. And Hunter Zolomon, who is abroad the the main timeline and can travel at anypoint on his will. Heres how he got beat, and i dont see a chance in hell for Phoenix to do that, that's more severe than anything even DBZ can put up with.   (superman who also traveled around the world trying to rewind time is standing still btw OLOLO so much for that herald of galactus stuff) 

 


 

 
 
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#43 Edited by Galactusischere (424 posts) - - Show Bio

@Phoenix of the Black Throne: 
 
*thumbs up* for you're post. And I agree with you on Phoenix winning, but when has White Phoenix removed time-lines from the multi-verse?

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#44 Posted by Static Shock (53046 posts) - - Show Bio
@Phoenix of the Black Throne: Interesting post. Perhaps Jean can win after all. Others had problems posting a legitimate case for her winning. LOL.
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#45 Posted by warlock360 (28189 posts) - - Show Bio

at the "heigth of her position" would be white crown no? and Zoom is stil faster than doom standing on a time device, if the physical embodiment of the Phoenix gets destroyed the phoenix ultimately, well "flies off".

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#46 Posted by Galactusischere (424 posts) - - Show Bio
@Voidheart:
Beating up a few high-heralds isn't impressive in Phoenix' league.
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#47 Posted by warlock360 (28189 posts) - - Show Bio
@Galactusischere: 
 
tell that to the many times Phoenix got killed  >=)
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#48 Posted by warlock360 (28189 posts) - - Show Bio

It took zoom and flash less than a second to cover everyarea on the earth, thats more(lol) than enough to beat the phoenix.

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#49 Posted by Galactusischere (424 posts) - - Show Bio
@Voidheart:
Tell me how many times she ressurected herself :)
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#50 Posted by warlock360 (28189 posts) - - Show Bio

She? not once, the phoenix? multiple times. One death, ko or whatever else is more than enough to win one battle.