Zonakin vs Knightfall Vader

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  • Win by death
  • Legends included
  • Fight takes place in the Jedi Temple
  • Standard equipment
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They are kinda the same thing. Zonakin was Anakin at his most focused and using the darkside, knightfall Vader was Anakin completely immersing himself in the dark side. Out of the both of them I guess knightfall Vader 5.5/10 for being completely on one side?

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Knightfall Vader.

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#5 Lord_Tenebrous  Online

Final battle IH Anakin is no different than the enraged incarnations of TPM Kenobi, ROTJ Luke or TCW Maul. KF Vader is the base level, enraged IH Anakin is far beyond.

"Zonakin" wins, and it's not close.

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Knightfall.

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Knightfall Anakin explictly said his powers are growing and it's mentioned that zonekin is just Anakin unleashing the anger and fury he already had bubble up inside

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Final battle IH Anakin is no different than the enraged incarnations of TPM Kenobi, ROTJ Luke or TCW Maul. KF Vader is the base level, enraged IH Anakin is far beyond.

"Zonakin" wins, and it's not close.

How is that far beyond? KF Anakin is basically IH Anakin but stronger as stated by Anakin not to mention KF Vader is no different from those incarnations either just using the dark side far more

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@anakinvader99:

It's far beyond in the same way that enraged TPM Kenobi is far beyond regular TPM Kenobi, and the same way enraged TCW Maul is far beyond regular TCW Maul.

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It's far beyond in the same way that enraged TPM Kenobi is far beyond regular TPM Kenobi, and the same way enraged TCW Maul is far beyond regular TCW Maul.

Yet rage amps don't always amp the individual significantly not only did Maul still beat a rage amped Obi-wan in TCW who should be much stronger than rage amped TPM Kenobi` but Palpatine also beat a rage amped Maul in 20 seconds. I wouldn't consider it any more significant than force nexus amp sure it amps the individual but not always significantly. Plus Anakin in KF is significantly more powerful than base Anakin as well and even while rage amped Anakin did not one-shot Dooku nor did he blatantly speed blitz or show anything significant to suggest that he is much above base Anakin

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Kfv based on G canon statements

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Knightfall

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@el_mago:

Which issue of Insider did you say your scan was from again?

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@lord_tenebrous: insider 30 i believe or either some of the 196 ones have it can't remember exactly

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@el_mago:

Insider #30 was released years before The Phantom Menace was even out, much less Revenge of the Sith. It couldn't be from there.

What do you mean by "196"?

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@lord_tenebrous: by 196 numbers of insiders that have been Made.

It could be either from the 60 insider or beyond

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@el_mago:

Insider #60 was released years before ROTS, so it can't be that one either.

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@el_mago:

So you don't know where it is?

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@el_mago:

I've combed multiple issues already, all with Nick Gillard interviews, but I haven't found anything. Where did you first see that scan?

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@el_mago:

Did they post the issue number?

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@el_mago:

Did you change your profile picture? I'm sure it was a different expression and closer up before

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#28  Edited By AlexTheBoss

They are honestly about the same. Zonakin is probably less cocky though, so he might win due to that reason.

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Yeah

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#30  Edited By CT-5555

Very similar in power level imo. Knightfall Vader might be slightly more masterful in the dark side, but his advantage is near negligible in a real fight. Zonakin is less arrogant and more focused though, so I might give the very slight edge to him.

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This is very close.

KF Vader had to be extremely powerful though his pure hatred, He was able to kill loads of Jedi (god knows how many) He did all that without any major wounds or any visible wounds at all, he didn’t even seem exhausted or anything close to it.

Zonakin is kind of the same but more rage driven but therefore less tactical and careful I’d vaguely argue.

I don’t know if Zonakin would’ve survived the KF because of his loss of carefulness and tactical abilities.

Gotta give the edge to KN Anakin.

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#32  Edited By Richard96

They should be literally the same thing, even if Zonakin was maybe more focused and determined.

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Interesting thread void, I've always been thinking of making some sort of matchup like this. I've always found KF Vader to be somewhat overrated. I think that one's perception on KF Vader mostly relies on whether they think that Zonakin is Anakin amped or an unhindered Anakin not holding back. On that, I think most people judge KF Vader's capabilities as being as formidable, if not more than the Anakin that fought and killed Dooku since he would logically be an Anakin who has completely cut loose.

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@lord_god said:

Interesting thread void, I've always been thinking of making some sort of matchup like this. I've always found KF Vader to be somewhat overrated. I think that one's perception on KF Vader mostly relies on whether they think that Zonakin is Anakin amped or an unhindered Anakin not holding back. On that, I think most people judge KF Vader's capabilities as being as formidable, if not more than the Anakin that fought and killed Dooku since he would logically be an Anakin who has completely cut loose.

I saw a lot of 'KFV stomps' or 'Zonakin obliterates' around some of the threads when I first joined which got me interested for a while. Also it was fascinating to me how the vast majority of people viewed these 2 iterations as compared to base Anakin. Then, I felt like making this thread to see which 'part' of the character is really his most powerful as of ROTS.

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Zonakin is basically knightfall Vader tho...

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They're practically one and the same.

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Knightfall Vader for a 7/10 majority.

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#38  Edited By Kilius

Knightfall Vader knows how to channel the source of his power more effectively and has fewer moral conflictions; Zonakin was still hesitant to kill Dooku the man he hated the most, Knightfall Vader had no qualms killing younglings in cold blood. Zonakin is a rough diamond in comparison.

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Probably KF Vader. He’s a version of Anakin more succumbed to the dark side.

And although he may not be as “in the zone” as Zonakin, I don’t think he was daydreaming or not paying attention.

But, they are virtually the same character. One is just more succumbed to the dark side and one is slightly more focused.