Zhongli vs Dr. Doom

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Who wins and why?

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Doom, because he's Doom.

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Zhongli is very powerful though being able to throw mountain size spears and petrify people with his meteorite and his jade shield can withstand attacks from Azdaha who should be mountain level offensively. So Dr Doom is gonna have a hard time penetrating his defenses If at all and Zhongli is plenty versatile himself. So stalemate maybe? I'm not sure

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#11  Edited By ProfessorRespect
@reaper4 said:

Zhongli is very powerful though being able to throw mountain size spears and petrify people with his meteorite and his jade shield can withstand attacks from Azdaha who should be mountain level offensively. So Dr Doom is gonna have a hard time penetrating his defenses If at all and Zhongli is plenty versatile himself. So stalemate maybe? I'm not sure

If you think a mountain level character is too much for Dr Doom, you've really not got a actual idea about much of anything here. This is a guy who regularly faces off and beats high tiers. I think anyone can make that same conclusion with just basic knowledge on the character.

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@professorrespect: Where would you scale Doom at power wise? I would say Zhongli is more island level in attack potency. I would say his shields are far stronger than island since Azdaha was powerful enough to shake the Earth itself. Zhongli also has super sonic to massively hypersonic scaling. So I think he can dodge anything Doom could do (Aside from mind hax I guess). Zhongli could also petrify Doom If need be and cause his entire body to break down

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@professorrespect: Where would you scale Doom at power wise? I would say Zhongli is more island level in attack potency. I would say his shields are far stronger than island since Azdaha was powerful enough to shake the Earth itself. Zhongli also has super sonic to massively hypersonic scaling. So I think he can dodge anything Doom could do (Aside from mind hax I guess). Zhongli could also petrify Doom If need be and cause his entire body to break down

I have a whole Doom RT where I go over his stats in significant detail so I'll just link that instead of cherry-picking feats. Speed might be a issue given he barely needs to handle with it due to everything else but I think tagging Human Torch numerous times over the decades and more gives him more than enough to work with.

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@professorrespect: Where would you scale Doom at power wise? I would say Zhongli is more island level in attack potency. I would say his shields are far stronger than island since Azdaha was powerful enough to shake the Earth itself. Zhongli also has super sonic to massively hypersonic scaling. So I think he can dodge anything Doom could do (Aside from mind hax I guess). Zhongli could also petrify Doom If need be and cause his entire body to break down

I don’t know about that, it seems like hyperbole, they might mean the ground itself.

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@shizzydebater: Zhongli stated that Azdaha was stronger in power than himself because he could shake the Earth. Zhongli is powerful enough to throw mountain spears and scales to Venti who has Island level feats. I doubt Zhongli would think just shaking the ground is more impressive than anything he could do.

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@shizzydebater: Zhongli stated that Azdaha was stronger in power than himself because he could shake the Earth. Zhongli is powerful enough to throw mountain spears and scales to Venti who has Island level feats. I doubt Zhongli would think just shaking the ground is more impressive than anything he could do.

shaking the entirety of Liyue is pretty impressive. I doubt it’s the planet, context wise it’s most likely Liyue and not the planet.

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@shizzydebater: Thats fair. I do think Azdaha is at least mountain-island level at least given that he's stronger than Zhongli offensively wise though

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@shizzydebater: Zhongli stated that Azdaha was stronger in power than himself because he could shake the Earth. Zhongli is powerful enough to throw mountain spears and scales to Venti who has Island level feats. I doubt Zhongli would think just shaking the ground is more impressive than anything he could do.

shaking the entirety of Liyue is pretty impressive. I doubt it’s the planet, context wise it’s most likely Liyue and not the planet.

Given him fighting a mountain level being was a highlight of his feats apparently, I really doubt someone like that could just casually handle planet-shaking tier beings.

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@shizzydebater: Thats fair. I do think Azdaha is at least mountain-island level at least given that he's stronger than Zhongli offensively wise though

Ya I agree with that

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@shizzydebater said:
@reaper4 said:

@shizzydebater: Zhongli stated that Azdaha was stronger in power than himself because he could shake the Earth. Zhongli is powerful enough to throw mountain spears and scales to Venti who has Island level feats. I doubt Zhongli would think just shaking the ground is more impressive than anything he could do.

shaking the entirety of Liyue is pretty impressive. I doubt it’s the planet, context wise it’s most likely Liyue and not the planet.

Given him fighting a mountain level being was a highlight of his feats apparently, I really doubt someone like that could just casually handle planet-shaking tier beings.

Ya, the difference between mountain - island level characters to planet shaking characters is massive

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@professorrespect Seems like Doom has some impressive hax. I still think Zhongli has a chance via petrification and causing his body to break down and he can counter some of his powers like morphing or the crimson bands and maybe his repulsor blasts. But Doom also has hax that could end Zhongli too and has more ways to win. So I guess he wins

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@reaper4 said:

@professorrespect Seems like Doom has some impressive hax. I still think Zhongli has a chance via petrification and causing his body to break down and he can counter some of his powers like morphing or the crimson bands and maybe his repulsor blasts. But Doom also has hax that could end Zhongli too and has more ways to win. So I guess he wins

I doubt petrification would work given Doom seems to have a uncanny capability to control his molecular state through sheer willpower.

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@professorrespect: Well It seems Doom wins mid difficulty then. I thought maybe Zhongli could bfr Doom out of his armor into the sun but maybe Doom has a counter to that too. He seems a bit broken

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Doom one-shots

He beat a beyonder, he solos Genshin, AOE and Naruot at once

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@lazerbeak: Him beating Beyonder was with prep time though. Without it he loses to way weaker beings. I feel this isn't a stomp. I've heard Dr Doom was like island level In attack potency. Zhongli can match him In that category in that case. Not to mention some of Doom's hax like morphing is useless since Zhongli is a shapeshifter and bfr wouldn't work either since Zhongli can just teleport back, the mindless ones are kinda useless since Zhongli can just petrify them or bury them under a mountain. The crimson band would be blocked by Zhongli's jade shield too. I think this is a decent fight imo

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@lazerbeak: Him beating Beyonder was with prep time though. Without it he loses to way weaker beings. I feel this isn't a stomp. I've heard Dr Doom was like island level In attack potency. Zhongli can match him In that category in that case. Not to mention some of Doom's hax like morphing is useless since Zhongli is a shapeshifter and bfr wouldn't work either since Zhongli can just teleport back, the mindless ones are kinda useless since Zhongli can just petrify them or bury them under a mountain. The crimson band would be blocked by Zhongli's jade shield too. I think this is a decent fight imo

Isn’t this ur thread

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@lazerbeak: Tbf I'm not really saying who I think wins just stating some facts.

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@lazerbeak: Tbf I'm not really saying who I think wins just stating some facts.

He tanked a blast of the IG

he solos the verse with 0 diff

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@lazerbeak: Tbf I'm not really saying who I think wins just stating some facts.

He tanked a blast of the IG

he solos the verse with 0 diff

That was Power Gem Thanos, not the IG. Insanely out of context.

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@lazerbeak said:
@reaper4 said:

@lazerbeak: Tbf I'm not really saying who I think wins just stating some facts.

He tanked a blast of the IG

he solos the verse with 0 diff

That was Power Gem Thanos, not the IG. Insanely out of context.

realiy? I swear it was IG one

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#31  Edited By ProfessorRespect
@lazerbeak said:
@professorrespect said:
@lazerbeak said:
@reaper4 said:

@lazerbeak: Tbf I'm not really saying who I think wins just stating some facts.

He tanked a blast of the IG

he solos the verse with 0 diff

That was Power Gem Thanos, not the IG. Insanely out of context.

realiy? I swear it was IG one

If you looked at the one scan of the feat then you'd probably think it was the IG, but Thanos intentionally disabled it bar the Power Gem for a fairer fight.

That one shot btw completely took him out of things even if he did survive, it certainly wasn't something he "tanked".

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@lazerbeak: I doubt he solos the verse. He can't kill the Raiden Shogun who can regenerate from anything and has a sword that can cut through space so It ignores conventional durability

Idk why you’re arguing in your own thread

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@lazerbeak said:
@professorrespect said:
@lazerbeak said:
@reaper4 said:

@lazerbeak: Tbf I'm not really saying who I think wins just stating some facts.

He tanked a blast of the IG

he solos the verse with 0 diff

That was Power Gem Thanos, not the IG. Insanely out of context.

realiy? I swear it was IG one

If you looked at the one scan of the feat then you'd probably think it was the IG, but Thanos intentionally disabled it bar the Power Gem for a fairer fight.

That one shot btw completely took him out of things even if he did survive, it certainly wasn't something he "tanked".

Fair enough. Got any good sources cause I’m trying to catch up on some comics

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@lazerbeak: True. I'll go ahead an delete it

Nno I’m just saying why you were lol

doesn’t affect me just curious

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@lazerbeak: Well Its mostly because I'm just super bored and have a lot of free time

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@zxxxczzx said:

Zhong li no diff all versions of doom

God emperor doom one-shots genshin times a thousand over and over again

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@lazerbeak: Don't. I've already seen him on twenty different threads saying the same crap. I guess he wasn't able to get the marvel/dc comic he wanted for his birthday lmao

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Add in God emperor doom and Zhongli still neg diff the verse comic book characters are folders even Hinata and Sakura can solo 99.99% of comic combined.

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@zxxxczzx: Maybe he could beat base Doom but he's definetly not beating Beyonder Doom or even Surfer Doom

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#48  Edited By Zvxhdud

Zhongli negs composite dr doom

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Ignore the troll above. Dr. Doom destroys Zhongli.

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@king_majestros: Does he though? If Reed can dodge Doom's attacks. Zhongli who is significantly faster than Reed can dodge most of Doom's attacks. Not saying he wins but its no stomp imo