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#1 Posted by Gilateen (3957 posts) - - Show Bio

•EOS Zeref

•No Soul Crush argument

•Location: Forest of dead trees

•In character

•Starting distance: 95ft

•Win by DEATH

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#2 Posted by ElderElijah190 (2043 posts) - - Show Bio

what a spite thread. Ichibei turns him into an ant and stomp him.

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#3 Posted by Wanderez (1914 posts) - - Show Bio

Ichibei stomps.

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#5 Posted by weebbicboi (1382 posts) - - Show Bio

Ichibei solos the verse.

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#6 Posted by Zane240 (545 posts) - - Show Bio

@elderelijah190:

And zeref reverses it

Zeref stops time can reverse time etc

He freeze time and kills ichibe

Zeref is also immortal

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#7 Posted by El_directo_ (635 posts) - - Show Bio

Hmmm this is somebody that I can agree that can "truly kill" zeref and not Aizen. Ichibei's last move on yhwach can kill immortals he even stated reincarnation won't be possible.

But the problem, and the question will always be....can ichibei counter being frozen in TIME STOP? Pls I need people to bring up reasonable arguments as to how he gets past that and not just saying he stomps zeref without giving it much thought.

^^ Zane already answers most of what zeref will do above, any or all attacks/damage ichibei does to zeref will be reversed tru TIME REWIND. I believe the only attack that will kill zeref will be that his last resort, but that's assuming ichibei can resist TIME STOP in the first place.

Anyways, I think zeref wins, He would stop time and finish him with LAW or a death wave.

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#8 Posted by El_directo_ (635 posts) - - Show Bio

Am loving these zeref threads tho. This is one FT character that I can truly argue for, cuz his abilities are just broken AF. It takes more than just firepower to beat him.

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#9 Edited by ourmanuel (11894 posts) - - Show Bio

Time stop would pretty much be the end of ichibe.

Asides from that, he could win based on what I know due to the name change.

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#10 Posted by Zane240 (545 posts) - - Show Bio

Ichibe factually has no answer to time stop so he loses

Zeref wins

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#11 Posted by FaradaySloth (10023 posts) - - Show Bio

@zane240: do you even know how ichibe’s powers work?

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#12 Posted by Jko1 (3074 posts) - - Show Bio

Of all the characters you put Zeref, THE BLACK MAGE, up against Ichibei. LMAO.

Spite.

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#13 Posted by Gilateen (3957 posts) - - Show Bio

@jko1: Well there are arguments for Zeref so no it’s not spite. Just downplaying Fairy tail.

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#14 Posted by Jko1 (3074 posts) - - Show Bio

@gilateen: I agree that FT in general does tend to get slept on but this is ridicolous. Ichibei is waaay faster, more powerful and has hax that hard counters Zeref. Even if this was WM Zeref, I don't see how he wins at best he may stalemate him.

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#15 Posted by WorldofRuin6 (3517 posts) - - Show Bio

Ichibei easily.

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#16 Posted by Zane240 (545 posts) - - Show Bio

@jko1:

Ichibe can't move or do shit when time is stopped he auto losses

His hax power and all that crap are useless

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#17 Posted by ourmanuel (11894 posts) - - Show Bio
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#18 Posted by FaradaySloth (10023 posts) - - Show Bio

@ourmanuel: By being faster and taking away Zeref's power by simply putting ink on him...

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#19 Posted by ourmanuel (11894 posts) - - Show Bio

@ourmanuel: By being faster and taking away Zeref's power by simply putting ink on him...

Is the speed difference really that huge that he wouldn’t just activate time-stop before ichibe performs an action?

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#20 Posted by LimitlessSigil (4616 posts) - - Show Bio

@ourmanuel: I've never read Fairy Tail so I don't know, but would it be in character for Zeref to instantly use time-stop?

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#21 Posted by gobrolygogo (20 posts) - - Show Bio

@faradaysloth: @worldofruin6:

I’m still not seeing how ichibe counters time-stop.

@gilateen said:

•EOS Zeref

•No Soul Crush argument

•Location: Forest of dead trees

•In character

•Starting distance: 95ft

•Win by DEATH

thats how. zeref used time stop once in the entire series and it was not in a battle situation.

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#22 Posted by FaradaySloth (10023 posts) - - Show Bio
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#23 Posted by El_directo_ (635 posts) - - Show Bio

@faradaysloth: Being faster helps but u forgetting that zeref is immortal, if ichibei blitzes zeref and strips him off his power zeref will just Undo it with TIME REWIND. Natsu did the same thing. He "completely" vaporized zeref. Even a speck or blood wasn't left of him, but zeref totally rewinds everything, not only his body but including the portion of the guild natsu busted up in the attack.

Ichibei best shot at winning this is to blitz while setting up his futen saitatsurio (his strongest attack) but the incantation takes too long and by that time zeref would have undone everything with his time magic.

Ichibei does have the means to kill him with that one technique, but it takes too long to setup. While on the other hand, all zeref needs to activate Time stop or rewind time, is just with a freaking THOUGHT.

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#24 Posted by El_directo_ (635 posts) - - Show Bio

@limitlesssigil: Yes its in character for zeref to use it. Time magic is the core of zeref's abilities. He abused it a lot when he got fairy heart. Casually rewinding time and wanting to time jump 400years into the past.

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#25 Posted by FaradaySloth (10023 posts) - - Show Bio

@el_directo_: time rewind would just be another power casually taken away by Ichimonji’s ink.

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#26 Posted by Saxz (174 posts) - - Show Bio

Zeref wins eventually... Although could go either way depending on who gets serious first

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#27 Posted by StrongerThanRin (446 posts) - - Show Bio

Zeref stops time GG

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#28 Posted by Zane240 (545 posts) - - Show Bio

Zeref is one of the only fairy tail characters that could hang with just about anyone in the hst

Especially white mage zeref

He wins this

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#29 Posted by HitTheAssasin (8225 posts) - - Show Bio

Ichibei still can't put Zeref down, so it's very much a debatable match.

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#30 Posted by El_directo_ (635 posts) - - Show Bio

@faradaysloth: Ichibei can take away zeref's time rewind? Well how would he do that? Am not saying it isn't possible am just curious. Pls enlighten me, Cuz I don't think recall ichibei having kind of ability. I could be wrong tho.

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#31 Posted by FaradaySloth (10023 posts) - - Show Bio

@el_directo_: ichibe ink from his zanpaukto makes someone lose their names and powers. Pretty freaking OP, which is why I believe anyone who is slower than ichibe will definitely lose.

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#32 Posted by jodema (926 posts) - - Show Bio

There are two types of people in this thread:

A: Ichibei nullifies Zeref's power

B: Zeref uses the power he just lost to stop his power from being lost.

Kek.

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#33 Posted by Zane240 (545 posts) - - Show Bio

Zeref stomps 99% of bleach characters. He's too haxed for such shit

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#34 Posted by BrownZeus (977 posts) - - Show Bio

In character I see Ichibei steamrolling by stats. Besides that...

Truth is both should be able to kill eachother Ichibei with his ink and Zeref with some other form of hax but the way I see it Ichibei is more likely to pull his ink before Zeref pulls his time stop.

As far as I remember Zeref relied on time stop few times while Ichibei pulled Ichimonji's after a single clash. Of course people can argue for more dynamic interactions for both characters but based on use Ichibei takes the mayority for me here

That being say as other people allready said Ichibei has no counters to time stop itself

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#35 Posted by shirso (4369 posts) - - Show Bio

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