Zeref vs BDSK

R1: Base Zeref

R2: FH Zeref

R1: Zeref 4xshots.

R2: The same as R1.

Tags for diabolos and spriggan fanboys since i wanna see a flame war

Either of them stomp the shit out of him in R1

Stalemate R2, Zeref so fodder cant do anything however they cant really take him down, answer may change after we see everyone's magic

Bump

@molt@floridaman29 forgot to tag you guys for this (since u guys are probably one of the best FT debaters)

Simple. Zeref gets stomped in R1 and wins R2.

@legend9384: Simply saying that doesn’t mean i’m gonna change my answer. Try something else

@gilateen: TS and Death magic

@seb178: yup

@legend9384: @seb178: Death magic gets out ran. Haku turns him into a plush doll. Gg.

Base Zeref is nothing, like seriously

@gilateen: Zeref can TS then deathwave

Neither of you don’t pay attention to the manga, huh.

This was such an easy counter, Natsu was easily outrunning that crap, anything else?

@gilateen: He means to say that if suzaku goes to attack zeref then he can easily kill him with deathwave or zeref can just TS then use deathwave

They could beat Zeref in R1 if they knock him out before he stops time, otherwise he kills them all. R2 Zeref claps them.

@legend9384: death wave was dodged by Tenro Natsu, so there's nothing to suggest that they can't outrun it. If Zeref stops time, however, then they have no way to dodge it.

TS>DW>GG

Simple

@legend9384: Let's say that does happen to Suzaku. That means the other 3 won't make the same mistake.

Natsu outran it again during Aldoron arc and hd didn't duck. That feat of disintegrating his sword is unquantifiable, we know nothing about it except that he made half a sword disintegrate.

@dimitri1220: Ok if suzaku gets hit by DW then he is out and others will try to run away like natsu did but what if zeref uses TS then?

@legend9384: what is that based on? You're saying he has infinite range?

We have 0 idea how it works and how strong the attack is. Disintegrating sword =/= killing 3 people who are as strong as a human dragon god.

@seb178: that's why I said Zeref wins if he uses time stop

@dimitri1220: Yep TS+DW=end of diabolos

@legend9384: yea but whats it based on?

I agree that his death magic ignores durability, but you can't apply that to his other magic unless you have you have proof. Time stop is time stop so yes it will work on anyone who doesn't have resistance, but we have almost no idea as to how exactly Zeref destroyed that part of the sword. If it was melted then you just need certain heat resistance to tank it.

@legend9384: It looked like it vaporized because there was smoke/steam coming out. Bro, if you want to believe that vaping a sword is enough to beat a Spriggan, let alone one shot a BDSK, you do you.

Lol spriggans>BDSK

if you want to debate me on that then go to this thread

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/suzaku-vs-spriggan-12-2171776/?page=12

and for the vaping part hes probably saying that none of the BDSK have a counter to disintegration as if they have no resistance/immunity i think

Suzaku solos round 1.

Zeref solos round 2.

how much diff does zeref solos R2?

@gilateen: Natsu's scarf can absorb death wave and on top of that he wasn't serious against natsu.

@darknessdevil: Either way, Suzaku already beat Natsu. BDSK are human form DG level so I don’t get why they can’t take zeref in R1.

@gilateen: base Natsu who just had to fight hundreds of monsters.

@darknessdevil: welp, that Natsu>>>still Base Zeref. He sure had the energy to attack and did him no good.

@gilateen: @lameliarleo: @cosmicemperor: Zeref just can stop the time and one-shot with curse or Law.