Zeldris Ten Commandments vs. Sasuke EoS Naruto Shippuden

Sasuke can't use Genjutsu's

Sasuke can't use full body and wing Susano'o

Similarly Zeldris cannot use Piety Commandment

Zeldris can use Ominous Nebula, but only if Zeldris has no other choices

If the speed or stats are unfair then I might equalize former or the latter option(s)

No toxicity, nor bringing up irrelevant characters that have nothing to do with the debates.

Bonus round: Demon King Zeldris vs. Boruto Sasuke.

Sasuke stomps round 1. The bonus round depends on how much Sasuke is nerfed by the writers. He should win low to mid difficulty at worst though.

Sasuke low diffs both rounds

Sasuke stomps

Sasuke stomps both rounds

@alextheboss: @ultimatesage: @protoman2000: @citgo: @moneyyjunee:

What about speed and also this is Zeldris using the Demon King's power.

Strongest SDS character is a little bit stronger than

war arc BM Naruto

@citgo: I know im saying that hoping people stop with the mismatches

@whatamiseeing: Nah, the demon king and DK Meliodas are stronger than BSM Naruto and rinnegan sage mode Madara, but still weaker than the 10 tails and juubito. Chaos is even stronger than them, but we don't know the limit of its power.

@alextheboss: @alextheboss: BSM Naruto was able to hold off juubitos chakra arms. Juubitos chakra arms could casually rip apart a barrier that could tank 4 juubi bombs. 1 juubi bomb is country level, 4 is continent. That make BSM Naruto at least Continent more likely large Continent. Aren’t they country at best?

Chaos is a god aside from that not seeing anyone beat BSM Naruto

@whatamiseeing:

Obito's 4 juubi bombs

vs the attack that killed the demon king

And just because BSM Naruto held off Obito for a bit, does not mean he is on his level. Obito is definitely above the demon king, but BSM Naruto isn't.

@alextheboss: What do mean I thought Dk was stronger than juubiito in terms of strength

EOS Naruto characters are superior to any NNT character except Pure Chaos and maybe Merlin with a lucky timestop

@jbreezy: In terms of physical strength maybe, but Juubito is definitely more powerful.

Sasuke

Physically Zeldris should overpower Sasuke and his ribcage seeing as the 4th Raikage was able to damage it and I don't see how Sasuke gets past ON.

Zeldris is far above Sasuke in every way. He stomps with little effort.

@alextheboss: okay you’re probably right

@jbreezy: @alextheboss: @floydfromhell97: @demoo: @Knowledge_King: @whatamiseeing: what about speed wise between the two??

@narmayawaifu: Zeldris is Sub-relativistic maybe while Sasuke is FTL being equal or faster than Naruto

@narmayawaifu: Well it seems like zel can move FTL while standing still so umm.. I don't know I guess LS since he was able to exchanged some blows with ludociel who is LS with grace

@whatamiseeing: when has sasuke moved at light speed

and zeldris has kept up with ludociel when he was using the ability flash, near lightspeed.

No one here is FTL. The NNT FTL statement was a mistranslation. Either way Sasuke will likely attempt CQC and get diced in two.

@ragegod: Sasuke can certainly reach low-FTL speeds when teleblitzing.

Sasuke swaps with his (zeldoris) blade and dices him up with a lightning enhanced blade he used to cut juudara, and CT the pieces.

@ragegod: That wasn’t a mistranslation, because it changed again for some reason. It changed back to the light speed statement so...

Sasuke Stomps

I'd say Zeldris is about...100x faster at least.

@narmayawaifu: scales to naruto

@Knowledge_King: lol what? Zeldris is not even close to 100x faster than Sasuke. Zeldris is in the triple digit to low quad mach range and demon king Zeldris is in the high quad Mach to the sub relativistic range. Sasuke is at least quad Mach to sub relativistic with light speed reaction time and the ability to teleport.

Zeldris is probably around 4 digit mach to maybe 6 digit.

Sasuke's not even lightning speed by feats.

@Knowledge_King: Sasuke kept up with Madara's sage lightning attack, and is comparable to Naruto who dodged light fang.

Sasuke stomps both rounds. Adult Sasuke solos the verse(MAYBE excluding chaos king arthur)

Sasuke one shots

What do you mean "changed back" ? That translates to "godspeed" or something to that effect. This has long been known. There was no mention of FTL

@ragegod: Nope. That translation was wrong it isn’t “Godspeed“, if you check the manga’s online it all say FTL, maybe few will say this word “Godspeed.”

@demoo: That was MS sasuke who was like 3 power ups below this one. EOS sasuke could one shot that version of himself

Sage Lightning has no set speed to it. Neither does Light Fang.

@Knowledge_King: The guide book says light fang is light speed, and sage/nature attacks should be the speed of their natural counterparts.

The guidebook's been wrong multiple times. Specifically on speed. Itachi's Water Fang is an example.

And no such thing has been said about sage/nature attacks. Chakra is specifically slower than actual lightning and Sage Chakra is still a mixture of normal chakra and nature energy. Meaning it too would be slower.

@alextheboss: The guidebook gives misinformation, that’s why I don’t trust it because people can get confused.

@co-boss: What does that have to do with his Susanoo's ribcage durability?

@demoo: because his Susano’o got stronger and more durable the more power ups he got. It went from being cracked by Danzo to taking hits from Juubito, which was before the sage of six paths amp which boosted the durability even more (taking Narutos enhanced bijuubombs)

Yes the rib cage is weaker than the whole thing but it also would have gotten more and more power as the rib cage scales with the rest of the susanoo body (just the least durable form of Susano’o). Im saying that using the ribcages first feat in the series isn’t exactly a fair assessment to its overall ability

@Knowledge_King: to be fair, he has gotten past Narutos reaction speed and Naruto recently in base (didn’t even have his sage mode precog) dodged a photon laser which is a relativistic feat. So that reinforces Naruto dodging light fang (and it being light speed) to be consistent

Only issue is...dodging a photon laser can be aim dodging. It's also something that a lot of street levelers have done and it isn't taken seriously.