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#1 Posted by MoneyyJunee (435 posts) - - Show Bio

Part 1 versions for all

Zabuza has his sword

Haku can use Ice Mirrors

No Samehada

Takes place at The Great Naruto Bridge

In Character

Morals off

Fight to the death

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#2 Posted by reaverlation (25868 posts) - - Show Bio

Kisame still

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#3 Edited by BuymeSkittles (7 posts) - - Show Bio

Kisame, pretty easily.

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#4 Posted by WhatamIseeing (1666 posts) - - Show Bio

mismatch

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#5 Posted by Hope_w (2834 posts) - - Show Bio

Lol....Kisame one hands.

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#6 Posted by FullMetalEmprah (4481 posts) - - Show Bio

Kisame stomps. If KN0 Naruto can break Haku's mirrors then Kisame should no issue doing so. Zabuza loses too, the only he was able to fight Kakashi as well as he did was because Kakashi had to also protect four other people, not to mention he was rusty iirc.

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#7 Edited by LimitlessSigil (3932 posts) - - Show Bio

Kisame loses, he has zero Part 1 feats essentially and completely none without Samehada.

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#8 Edited by InvadedTBD (1548 posts) - - Show Bio

^^^^^^What this guy said. Kisame loses without Samehada.

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#9 Posted by deactivated-5c60dc252a2af (5801 posts) - - Show Bio

Anyone early Shippuden Kakashi level and above solos.

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#10 Edited by AlexTheBoss (17435 posts) - - Show Bio

Kisame low-mid difficulty due to not having Samehada.

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#11 Posted by bdelloidgrain2 (1964 posts) - - Show Bio

Kisame wins pretty easily.

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#12 Posted by LimitlessSigil (3932 posts) - - Show Bio
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#13 Posted by AlexTheBoss (17435 posts) - - Show Bio

@limitlesssigil: It says part 1 version, not part one feats. I doubt Kissame got much stronger over the time skip.

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#14 Posted by deactivated-5c9e122a6bc32 (2290 posts) - - Show Bio

Kisame

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#15 Posted by grappolo (2979 posts) - - Show Bio

Kisame stomps.

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#16 Posted by Yamiyodare (1257 posts) - - Show Bio

Kisame

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#17 Posted by deactivated-5c9e122a6bc32 (2290 posts) - - Show Bio

Kisame is underrated he's called the tailless tails Beast, the dude has enough Chakra to rival a tailed Beast

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#18 Edited by seastone98 (4668 posts) - - Show Bio

Kisame wins even with out his sword he is still physically superior 2 either of them on top of having boat loads more chakara then anybody here

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#19 Posted by LimitlessSigil (3932 posts) - - Show Bio

@alextheboss said:

@limitlesssigil: It says part 1 version, not part one feats. I doubt Kissame got much stronger over the time skip.

What's the point of even stating the version if we're allowed to use all of his feats?

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#20 Edited by LoveEveryone (1116 posts) - - Show Bio

Zabuza was considered the strongest of the swordsmen of the original swordsmen not the new age swordsmen with kisame. Kisame without Samehada and fused form was arguably stronger than the swordsmen indivually for beating Fugiki, the original owner of Samehada and original member of the 7 swordsmen.

So kisame should take this. Haku is far outclassed in power and speed by Kisame. Zabuza saying haku was stronger than himself is PIS and makes no sense. How could Haku be on par with Zabuza, when haku was nearly stalemated by Inexperienced Sharingan 1 Tomoe Sasuke, and Zabuza was almost equal to Sharingan 3 Tomoe Kakashi.

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#21 Posted by AlexTheBoss (17435 posts) - - Show Bio

@limitlesssigil: The better question is why use part 1 if part 1 Kissame has piratically now feats in the first place? You could argue he got a bit stronger, but with no stated power up he should be of similar strength as before. He was still portrayed to be above Kakashi who was above Zabuza, and add it the fact he has Samehada and can fuse with his sword he should definitely win, even if he is a bit weaker than he was in part 2.

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#22 Posted by LimitlessSigil (3932 posts) - - Show Bio

@alextheboss said:

@limitlesssigil: The better question is why use part 1 if part 1 Kissame has piratically now feats in the first place?

I dunno, I didn't make the thread.

You could argue he got a bit stronger, but with no stated power up he should be of similar strength as before. He was still portrayed to be above Kakashi who was above Zabuza

Kakashi and Zabuza were essentially even at the time, Zabuza would have won had Naruto and Sasuke not been there.

, and add it the fact he has Samehada and can fuse with his sword

Under the assumption that he's limited to part 1 feats, he can't do this. Not to mention, the OP has removed Samehada in this thread.

he should definitely win, even if he is a bit weaker than he was in part 2.

Assuming he is only allowed his part 1 feats, there's no way he wins. All we have from him is that he's probably stronger than Kakashi, unable to defeat a base Jiraiya alongside Itachi (At this point) and all of this is assumed while he has access to Samehada, which he doesn't in this battle.

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#23 Posted by nerdchore (8144 posts) - - Show Bio

Kisame

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#24 Posted by IndomitableRegal (15884 posts) - - Show Bio

Kisame bodies honestly.

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#25 Posted by AlexTheBoss (17435 posts) - - Show Bio

@limitlesssigil: Without Samehada I can see him having trouble, but even in part one he had the advantage over Asuma, was hit by a direct hit by Guy with no damage, and him and Itachi were up against four Zabuza level opponents, and those four were scared, meaning Itachi and Kisame should at least be worth around two of them, as if they weren't they could have just beat them then and there.

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#26 Posted by LimitlessSigil (3932 posts) - - Show Bio

@alextheboss said:

@limitlesssigil: Without Samehada I can see him having trouble, but even in part one he had the advantage over Asuma, was hit by a direct hit by Guy with no damage, and him and Itachi were up against four Zabuza level opponents, and those four were scared, meaning Itachi and Kisame should at least be worth around two of them, as if they weren't they could have just beat them then and there.

Ehh, saying Asuma and Kurenai are equal to Guy and Kakashi is a stretch.