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#1 Edited by MyLittleFascist (31727 posts) - - Show Bio

The nemesis must fit as a shadow-archtype as opposed to simply being a major antagonist

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ShadowArchetype

I'll try to keep the gauntlet in order but I am not an expert on every character. If the gauntlet happens to include the duo you wanted to use, just remove them from the gauntlet and see how far they get.

Your duo gets 1 day prep between each round and full healing, the gauntlet characters do not get any prep, but they do get teamwork.

All are in character and have limited knowledge (what they might logically have access to if they were in the same setting)

PS: Don't underestimate Oz and Cheshire because of where I placed them. They kick ABC logic right out the window.

Round 1: Batman and Deathstroke

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Round 2: Spiderman and Venom

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Round 3: Kat and Raven

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Round 4: Tatsumi and Wave

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Round 5: Starfire and Blackfire

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Round 6: Oz and Cheshire

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Round 7: Naruto and Gaara

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Round 8: Dante and Vergil

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Round 9: Sonic and Shadow

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Round 10: Thor and Loki

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Round 11: Sentry and Void

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Round 12: Flash and Reverse Flash

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Round 13: Darkness and Angelus

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Round 14: Ghostrider and Blackheart

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Round 15: Lucifer and Michael

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#4 Edited by MyLittleFascist (31727 posts) - - Show Bio

@krleavenger: Yea, sort of. I linked to the TV tropes page that explains it well. It doesn't have to be a literal shadow, it can be another character who happens to hold a lot of the darker (or lighter if your favorite is a villain) qualities that the chosen character has.

If you see the character as the evil version of your favorite protagonist, then it's probably close enough to match this thread.

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#6 Posted by TheKinfing (11788 posts) - - Show Bio

@zetsumoto: Batman and Bane? Batman and a Talon? Batman and Jason Todd?

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#7 Posted by Lord-Parallax (4503 posts) - - Show Bio

So Wally and Zoom?

Clear.

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#11 Posted by Full123 (4506 posts) - - Show Bio

Right. I'd take Law/Luffy (one is smart/hax, another is dumb/brick) but they aren't really nemesis.....

Well, they would get to Naruto and Gaara, skipping that they'd get to Dante and Vergil and maybe even past that.

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#13 Posted by Judge_and_Jury (23 posts) - - Show Bio

Zero and Omega-Zero:

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  • Rounds 1-7 would be a massacre
  • Round 8 could get interesting depending on whether Dante went Majin, but Devil Trigger alone would not be enough.
  • I assume round 9 Is Archie Sonic and Shadow? Otherwise these two should be way lower. If they're archie, then same as round 8. Archie sonic is actually pretty legit.
  • Round 10 is where they stop

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#14 Edited by Full123 (4506 posts) - - Show Bio

@zetsumoto: Law? Well, plenty of things. Heart-taking out, cutting people in half so they don't get hurt, cutting people in half in a way that regeneration doesn't work, frying organs by radiation, frying organs by electricity, soul switching (I say soul switching but it's not really), teleportation, able to teleport away items on the target's body, unblockable shooting attack, TK and immortality projection.

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#15 Edited by Mooty_Pass (9898 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't know who: Kat, Raven, Tatsumi, Wave, Oz, Cheshire are.

Anyway my duo: Storm & Magneto

Stop at Round 9.

(Those Blasted Hedghogs!!!) -_-

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#16 Posted by ASGARDIANBRONY (11629 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor and loki stop at 10.

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#17 Posted by depinhom (13506 posts) - - Show Bio

Wolverine and Sabretooth lose at 2.

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#19 Edited by SupremeGeneration (11922 posts) - - Show Bio

Iron Man and I guess Dr Doom (currently)?

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#20 Posted by deactivated-5988def3424a7 (5386 posts) - - Show Bio

Punisher and Jigsaw get stomped at Round 1.

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#21 Posted by MyLittleFascist (31727 posts) - - Show Bio

@full123 said:

@zetsumoto: Law? Well, plenty of things. Heart-taking out, cutting people in half so they don't get hurt, cutting people in half in a way that regeneration doesn't work, frying organs by radiation, frying organs by electricity, soul switching (I say soul switching but it's not really), teleportation, able to teleport away items on the target's body, unblockable shooting attack, TK and immortality projection.

wut?

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#22 Posted by Full123 (4506 posts) - - Show Bio

@zetsumoto: Well, say, he cuts off a person's head. The head is still alive, and it can control the body, and feel what the body feels. Trafalgar Law can kill the body while keeping the head alive, making it good for torture. Also good for: incapacitation, surgery (which Trafalgar Law sometimes does). And the heart taking out faints the target, but doesn't kill them.

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I don't know who: Kat, Raven, Tatsumi, Wave, Oz, Cheshire are.....Anyway my duo:(Storm/Magneto) well...they

Stop at Round 9.

(Those Blasted Hedghogs!!!) -_-

Kat and Raven are gravity manipulators powerful enough to cause micro-blackholes.

Tatsumi and Wave are dragon knights with living armor that adapts to the environment. They are about city buster level if I remember correctly. I think I'll make a thread with them against Live Action Doomsday.

Oz can manipulate and fire chains out of thin air, create a scythe out of nothing, turn into a large monster, and destroy anything through contact (works on mind, soul, and body. Also works on space itself). Cheshire is kind of like Freddy Krueger meets Mirror Master, but his showings aren't all that amazing unfortunately. He did turn a dimension into a swirling vortex though, and I don't think most characters would survive the funky temporal, mental, and soul effects of his dimension either..

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#24 Posted by MyLittleFascist (31727 posts) - - Show Bio
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#25 Posted by Mooty_Pass (9898 posts) - - Show Bio

@zetsumoto: Ah VERY INTERESTING groups of combatants you've placed.

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#26 Posted by Full123 (4506 posts) - - Show Bio

@zetsumoto: Kinda.

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Kills body, leaves head alive.

Also, he can attach your limbs/body parts to barrels, rocks etc.

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Cuts a man and a mountain. Also TP Lifts it about a 100m

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Reacts to and cuts a close-range meteor

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Heart taking out faints target.

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#27 Edited by MyLittleFascist (31727 posts) - - Show Bio

@asgardianbrony said:

Thor and loki stop at 10.

lol maybe I should add Thor and Loki to the gauntlet

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#28 Posted by MyLittleFascist (31727 posts) - - Show Bio

Iron Man and I guess Dr Doom (currently)?

Don't know enough about Ironman to say who his shadow would be. I thought it was the Mandarin?

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#29 Posted by Pharoh_Atem (44282 posts) - - Show Bio

Hal and Sinestro stop at the last round.

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#30 Posted by larfleezy (687 posts) - - Show Bio

Darkseid and Highfather clear easily. Why Batman and Deathstroke?

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#31 Posted by Sly_141 (3216 posts) - - Show Bio

Darkseid and Highfather clear easily. Why Batman and Deathstroke?

Dammit I was couple comments to late.

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#33 Posted by MyLittleFascist (31727 posts) - - Show Bio

Darkseid and Highfather clear easily. Why Batman and Deathstroke?

So that someone like KrleAvenger who chose Captain America and Hydra Captain America would have someone that they can beat?

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#34 Posted by christianrapper (6289 posts) - - Show Bio

who is a shadow for cosmic spidey? darn i can't even participate.

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#35 Posted by larfleezy (687 posts) - - Show Bio
@larfleezy said:

Darkseid and Highfather clear easily. Why Batman and Deathstroke?

So that someone like KrleAvenger who chose Captain America and Hydra Captain America would have someone that they can beat?

Not what I meant but ok.

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#36 Edited by MyLittleFascist (31727 posts) - - Show Bio

@larfleezy: Deathstroke is supposed to be sort of an amoral batman. He served as a second mentor to Robin, and even has his own butler. I guess Teen Titans cartoon probably focused more on the Deathstroke Batman parallel than the comics did. I honestly prefer that version.

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#37 Posted by deactivated-5ac4e862bd47b (3700 posts) - - Show Bio

Yamamoto and yhwach.

They might pass Naruto and Gaara round, but this is unlikely.

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#38 Posted by doctorfate92 (596 posts) - - Show Bio

Doctor Fate (Kent Nelson) and Wotan

They easily clear.

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#39 Posted by Batman3000 (5652 posts) - - Show Bio

Lol my top 2 favorite characters are Spidey and Batman. Next comes Nathan Drake and he would be with anyone from Talbot to Rafe, Zoran or Gabriel Roman.

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#40 Posted by Hypnos0929 (6658 posts) - - Show Bio

Kratos and Zeus stop at round 9

Black Adam (my 2nd favorite) and Shazam could clear

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#41 Posted by jay_z94 (8324 posts) - - Show Bio

Wolverine and Omega Red (Tehe)

Round 1: Clear

Round 2: Clear (just)

Rounds 4-7: No clue about these characters.

Round 8: Stop

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#42 Edited by MyLittleFascist (31727 posts) - - Show Bio

@hypnos0929: Kratos's shadow would be Hercules not Zeus, and lol Kratos and Zeus probably wouldn't beat Oz and Cheshire let alone Dante and Vergil.

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#43 Posted by MyLittleFascist (31727 posts) - - Show Bio

@jay_z94: I don't know anything about Omega Red, but wouldn't Wolverine's shadow be Sabertooth?

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#44 Edited by jay_z94 (8324 posts) - - Show Bio

@jay_z94: I don't know anything about Omega Red, but wouldn't Wolverine's shadow be Sabertooth?

Hence the tehe, lol

Sabretooth is essentially fodder and would be useless, so I picked Omega Red instead.

Logan and Sabretooth stop at 2 due to web/tendril incap

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#45 Posted by Batman3000 (5652 posts) - - Show Bio

Reread OP. Nate's "shadow" would likely be Rafe. He's fairly featless and Nate while impressive can't contend with Team 1 alone.

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#46 Posted by Hypnos0929 (6658 posts) - - Show Bio

@zetsumoto: I don't know who Oz and Cheshire are. And I thought you said Nemesis, sorry. In the Shadow case then yeah Hercules would slow them down

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#47 Posted by deactivated-5a08a02678f1f (8110 posts) - - Show Bio

Danny Phantom and Dark Danny. We stop hard at round 6.

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#48 Posted by SoA (6246 posts) - - Show Bio

Shazam and black Adam . I do not know some of these characters so if I ignore em I'm confident these guys make it sentry/void . Unless the ones I didn't recognize are reality warpers then I'm sunk .

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#49 Posted by MyLittleFascist (31727 posts) - - Show Bio

@zetsumoto: I don't know who Oz and Cheshire are. And I thought you said Nemesis, sorry. In the Shadow case then yeah Hercules would slow them down

But you do know Dante and Vergil right? Some of the DMC floor bosses would match Hades. Mundus would conquer Olympus.

As for Oz and Cheshire. Oz is faster than Kratos and Zeus from what I've seen from what I've seen. Throw in dimension cleaving and Cheshire probably wouldn't even be needed for that fight.

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#50 Posted by MyLittleFascist (31727 posts) - - Show Bio

@soa said:

Shazam and black Adam . I do not know some of these characters so if I ignore em I'm confident these guys make it sentry/void . Unless the ones I didn't recognize are reality warpers then I'm sunk .

What kind of reality warping would they have issues with? Cheshire is sort of like Mirror Master, and his dimension has all kinds of funky mental, temporal, and spiritual effects that most non-PH characters don't really have resistance to.