Yoda vs Vader

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I am the greatest! Now I'm gettin' paid for it!

Derp.

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#3  Edited By vooon

Yoda wins, if he's EU version it's a curbstomp. What are you smoking?

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I honestly wouldn't be surprised if this community agree with him, at this point.

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@kiadisandwich: Half of them do already. Nothing but blind sheep who takes everything he says as word of god.

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I'm working on a rebuttal right now.

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#7  Edited By Strike3
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Yoda kills Darth Vader in two blows.

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#9  Edited By kbroskywalker

@SilentBat said:

I'm working on a rebuttal right now.

You and greyjedi(from what I've heard) remain the only half-decent sw debaters on youtube

keep it up

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This video was such derp.

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@SilentBat: you're literally the only SW youtuber i can take seriously. Please debunk that video and keep up the good work!

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Almost done with my rebuttal. I just need to format for Comic Vine. I'm also planning on turning my Vine post into a script for a video as well (which I hope to get done later today or by the end of the weekend).

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@SilentBat: could you tag some star wars debaters when you do that?

Like myself,Lordofthelight,Kbroskywalker,Richard96,Wollfmyth,ordeith etc.

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yoda crush cut and tear vader

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#15  Edited By silentbat

I'll try to remember to tag everyone who's in this thread as well as my usual tags.

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@thevivas: I'm not only referring to the YouTube community...

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Spite

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Yoda is the better way to be, but Vader is better in combat. Exactly.

Top comment of this video. Very telling...

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Vader wins, but not because of the reasons presented in the video

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#21  Edited By GuildSeal

I find Jensaarai1's perspective often interesting but it's a shame when it's obviously swayed with bias.

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I agree with our Lord & Saviour Jensaarai, Vader godstomps. Absolutely no contest... Yoda's a midget and has never shown any feats possible of what Vader's possible of.

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Darth Vader is a badass, but Yoda would stomp him.

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Next week on Versus series!:

"Vader survived against Obi when he had the advantage and later Obi wan became immortal. Vader is an immortal killer"

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#25  Edited By ViperSixteen
@darth_nimrod said:

Darth Vader is a badass, but Yoda would stomp him.

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Yoda wins solidly, but it's not a stomp. Not when Vader as of ANH was above his Mustafar iteration, who isn't that that far below KF Vader, a.k.a the guy who is comparable to Sidious himself. And this was before growing "ever stronger" over the next four years. Not when he is above Dooku, who Yoda was outright stated as unable to stomp with the Force.

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Darth Vader.

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Yoda wins. And yeah, it is not a stomp.

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Yoda, not a stomp.

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Yoda.

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Yoda, and it's a stomp. Or near it.

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Yoda, wrecks.

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#33  Edited By kbroskywalker

Yoda, doubt it's a stomp though, prolly a decent-good fight tbh

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@wollfmyth209

So, you think Yoda can stomp Dooku?

Why are all your opinions changing now?

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@lordofthelight: Dooku and Vader aren't the same type of combatants and the way Dooku fights is generally more well-suited to combat Yoda.

Additionally, I don't think Yoda can stomp Vader(much like how I don't think he can stomp Dooku) in the Force, but a considerable gap exists.

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@wollfmyth209

Djem So is a more aggressive form than Ataru though. And given that Ataru relies on offense and has the weakest defense of all the forms, a generic Ataru user would be pressed on to the defensive from the very onset simply due to the fact that it wouldn't be aggressive enough. And from there, it would be at a disadvantage, because of its weak defensive focus.

So, I do see an inherent form advantage for Vader though. Although, I guess you can argue that Vader's lack of mobility will hurt him here against someone like Yoda. However that shouldn't hamper him to such an extent, because Djem So actually places equal importance on defense as it does on offense.

I honestly feel Ataru isn't that great of a form though. It isn't aggressive enough( for a random generic person against a random generic person here) to cause serious trouble to a Soresu user or a Makashi user, it is actually at a disadvantage against more aggressive forms like Djem So, and Juyo. The only forms against which it might be effective would be Niman, or Shii Cho.

Anyways, Ataru with its emphasis on acrobatics, seems more like a form which you use to destroy armies, not confront force users.

So, yeah, I don't think Vader will be stomped in sabers at all. In fact, he could put up a semi-decent fight, maybe even better.

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#37  Edited By kbroskywalker

@lordofthelight:

dooku's quotes regarding aotc yoda don't apply to rots yoda

If you want to argue for Vader having relativity to ROTS Yoda, I'd use scaling he has over Vastor.

I honestly feel Ataru isn't that great of a form though. It isn't aggressive enough( for a random generic person against a random generic person here) to cause serious trouble to a Soresu user or a Makashi user, it is actually at a disadvantage against more aggressive forms like Djem So

Doubt it tbh, the weakness of Djem so is a lack of agility, which is exactly what Ataru offers. And we visibly see examples of djem so's impaired ability with Anakin throughout TCW and then in ROTS vs Dooku

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How is this even a debate?

Yoda ftw.

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@jensaarai1: I'd be interested in challenging you about this, care to debate the topic?

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Yoda yawns and force shockwave from the yawn kills Vader so hard, his entire history is removed from all Canon sources.

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@jensaarai1: I'd be interested in challenging you about this, care to debate the topic?

Please tag me if you guys do this.

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#43  Edited By Prezilla

Yoda wins..

Sideous=Yoda >> Vader

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Yoda.

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Honestly, these Youtubers sometimes really grind my gears.

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Yoda stomps harder if he throws a bag of sand at Vader.

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The green midget beats the tall black guy.

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@emperor_jar_jar: This is nothing, he thinks Exar Kun would defeat Yoda, and also thinks Yoda would defeat Darth Malak IN A GOOD FIGHT.

It’s pathetic.

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@emperor_jar_jar: This is nothing, he thinks Exar Kun would defeat Yoda, and also thinks Yoda would defeat Darth Malak IN A GOOD FIGHT.

It’s pathetic.

Yea... and EvanNova's Plagueis vs Obi-Wan really makes me sick.