Yhwach(Bleach) VS Seven Deadly Sins, The Ten Commandments & Archangels(Nanatsu no Taizai)

Rules

• Random encounter-No knowledge

• Manga/Canon feats only

• Reiatsu=/=Magic

• Yhwach at his strongest

• Team replaces Ichigo in this fight

• Everyone of the Team at their strongest

• Wins by Death, K.O. or Incapacitation

Yhwach loses.

Yhwach solos the verse from his throne.

Yhwach is planet level by feats and the novels plus he has better hax so he solos

he would have to use yamamoto bankai and almighty

I don't think Yhwach can beat all of them at once. The team is extremely versatile, with Meliodas and Ban already arguably rivaling Yhwach in power. Gowther can link the entire team's minds together to have perfect teamwork, they have seals, they have commandments, King can heal his teammates, Ban is at his strongest so he is also immortal, Gowther's mind attacks may have some effect, Merlin can set traps and try to weaken Yhwach or try to trap him in an infinite time spell, ect.

Yhwach does have a chance due to the almighty though. Since he should have the ability to see everything, if Greyroad's commandment has the ability to kill Yhwach he will go for her first. He can quickly take out the weaker troublesome opponents after that like Gowther, Merlin, and King (who has weak physicals and can heal his teammates).

However the rest won't be so easy to kill. Sariel and Tarmiel can turn their bodies into their element, all the demons are extremely hard to kill in general and have good durability feats, Escanor, Ban, Meliodas, and Ludociel are are extremely strong and should have the durability to take some of Yhwach's attacks. Estarossa and Meliodas have full counter to try and repel Yhwach's attacks. Zeldri's Ominous Nebula could possibly do something.

Yhwach will be tough to put down, and the team will most likely experience losses, but there are just too many strong opponents for Yhwach to take the majority here imo.

Regeneration gets nulled passively by the Almighty. I dont see how he doesnt one shot the verse.

Merlin solos. Get this mismatch off these boards.

@hope_w: How does Merlin solo? She does have the means to win with sealing or the time spell, but if Yhwach starts with the almighty activated he will just kill her before she does anything. She has no counter to this.

@alextheboss: Merlin can attack in spirit form thus completely ridding the need of a body to attack. This is spite.

Not to mention everything he did with almighty can't put Mel or ban down

Team stomps hard. Way too much combined hax and firepower.

Can't Ban simply snatch Yhwach's almighty?

@hope_w:

Merlin can attack in spirit form thus completely ridding the need of a body to attack. This is spite.

Isn't that because of her sacred treasure? Yhwach would just destroy/nullify that as well.

Not to mention everything he did with almighty can't put Mel or ban down

Yeah, those two would be trouble, which is why I think the team wins. It says they are in their prime, so it's current ban with immortality, so he will be virtually impossible to kill, plus he can suck up Yhwach's strength for himself. I want to wait until we see what Meliodas can do with his original power before talking much about him, but he should probably be above Ban.

that

I don't think so. I don't remember him being able to snatch abilities. That's like saying he could have snatched Galan's commandment, or Melioda's full counter.

They can't kill Yhwach

They can't Incap Yhwach

None of what they have can KO Yhwach.

Meanwhile:

They all can die

They all can get Incap by Yhwach's superior reiatsu

And Yhwach has physicals that would KO everyone here.

Not to mention, having a hax that stomps whatever hax the Team has.

When will you learn? There isn't a single NNT character that could contend with Yhwach. Nada.

Wait... wait... thats a joke right?

Mel and Ban have never, ever, been anywhere near Ywach in power. Ywach is miles and miles above them in almost every category you could even imagine. AP/DC/Hax/Speed.... lol

The fact that you said Estarossa and Meliodas full counter alone proves you know nothing about SDS. Firstly, Mel can only FC magic attacks, and Esta can only FC physical attacks. Secondly, that requires them to move their swords and react in time. They have no concept of a arguably relativistic characters speed. They would be statues to him.

Commandments are not NLF. Immortality is not NLF. King cannot heal vapes.

A single sword swing from Ywach would vape anyone in SDS. Anyone. It doesn't matter if they are demon, Escanor, ban, or Zeldris with ON. Literally all of them are dead 1 second into the fight.

Would be happy to CaV anyone who thinks otherwise. I am sure my boy @limitlesssigil would as well.

@alextheboss: @worldofruin6:

He’d just become immune to all the hax then he’d easily just overwhelm them with his darkness, absorb them with his darkness or if he doesn’t feel like putting in any effort he can also just shift the future where he kills them all to the present instantly like he did with Ichigo’s Bankai.

So he dies to Grayroad's commandment then?

Yhwach cause apparently the almighty makes the person omnipotent and omniscient in the novel or something from what I heard.

1. King already demonstrated you can simply overpower commandments.
2. He’d already be immune to it via The Almighty.

@leothegreatest:

3. Even if he somehow dies, he resurrects.

@Aristeaus:

Mel and Ban have never, ever, been anywhere near Ywach in power. Ywach is miles and miles above them in almost every category you could even imagine. AP/DC/Hax/Speed.... lol

Speed and hax yes. AP and DC is debatable.

The fact that you said Estarossa and Meliodas full counter alone proves you know nothing about SDS. Firstly, Mel can only FC magic attacks, and Esta can only FC physical attacks. Secondly, that requires them to move their swords and react in time. They have no concept of a arguably relativistic characters speed. They would be statues to him.

I guess since the OP says reiatsu doesn't equal magic Meliodas' won't work, but Estarossa's would on physical attacks, but you are right about them possibly being too fast.

Commandments are not NLF. Immortality is not NLF.

I think you mean they are? If not this would be a good thing for the SDS team, lol.

King cannot heal vapes.

Yhwach doesn't usually vape his opponents.

A single sword swing from Ywach would vape anyone in SDS. Anyone. It doesn't matter if they are demon, Escanor, ban, or Zeldris with ON. Literally all of them are dead 1 second into the fight.

Yhwach doesn't have the feats to prove he can do that.

@faradaysloth:

They can't Incap Yhwach

Merlin's time freeze spell could arguably do it.

They all can die

Ban can't, since it says it's them during their strongest it would be right before Ban gave up his immortality.

And Yhwach has physicals that would KO everyone here.

If strikes like this can't even come close to KOing Ban or Meliodas, Yhwach won't have an easy time doing that.

Not to mention, having a hax that stomps whatever hax the Team has.

Yhwach out haxes them all individually, but this is a lot of hax to deal with.

I don't see Yhwach beating them all at once. Without DK Meliodas or Ban yea, he can.

Any reason why he can’t one shot. Nobody on this team is higher than island level in DC or AP. Are yall forgetting that yhwach was simultaneously destroying 3 dimensions 2 which are the size of earth confirmed and Hueco Mundo which the previous soul king created by killing a planet sized menos grande? Are y’all forgetting that yhwach has Yamamoto’s bankai and can raise trillions of dead souls?are we forgetting that yhwach has country level Tk that he can spam? Are yall forgetting he has the Almighty and is faster than anyone in SDS verse currently?

He one shots everyone here

@demongod_pablo: It was stated Meliodas wouldn't be able to stay in the human world with his original power or the power of the demon king, so you could argue that puts him on the same level. And can I see the lines describing the soul king one shotting a planet sized menos?

1. When?
2. That's headcanon.

3. He still can't do anything, as any attempt to harm them will kill him over and over.

OT: Gowther could TP him.

@alextheboss:

Merlin's time freeze spell could arguably do it.

Didn't she need quite some time to activate this though?

Ban can't, since it says it's them during their strongest it would be right before Ban gave up his immortality.

Damn, I guess not then lol. Well, Ban's regen ain't that great, so he could get KO'd, or IIRC he was completely powerless when Melascula took his soul, right? Pretty sure there was a move that tour apart from the spiritual matter of living objects, can't remember the name atm.

If strikes like this can't even come close to KOing Ban or Meliodas, Yhwach won't have an easy time doing that.

Not sure how much science you have to go down in this, but all I see is just Ban punching the ground so hard it creates a few huge cracks a couple miles away. Nothing about this screams more than mountain level IMO, so I could see Kenpachi of all people tanking this tbh.

Yhwach out haxes them all individually, but this is a lot of hax to deal with.

His stats will make up for it.

@faradaysloth:

Didn't she need quite some time to activate this though?

Yeah, she will need protection while she tries to use it.

Damn, I guess not then lol. Well, Ban's regen ain't that great, so he could get KO'd, or IIRC he was completely powerless when Melascula took his soul, right? Pretty sure there was a move that tour apart from the spiritual matter of living objects, can't remember the name atm.

True, Yhwach could target his soul directly.

Not sure how much science you have to go down in this, but all I see is just Ban punching the ground so hard it creates a few huge cracks a couple miles away. Nothing about this screams more than mountain level IMO, so I could see Kenpachi of all people tanking this tbh.

The cracks go out in all directions fro the point of impact, and the cracks go past where the scans show, not to mention we don't know how deep the cracks are, but they are at least deeper than hills, so taking that into consideration I would say it puts their physicals at least multi mountain level, which makes sense considering Galan already had mountain level strikes.

Yhwach still loses.

@alextheboss: that bull shit because meliodas is getting his ass handed right now by the demon king and when the the demon king was using meliodas body in the human world he didn’t threaten anything his best feat is island level. Saying meliodas is a threat to the human world is no different than Yusuke from Yu Yu Hakusho having multiple statements saying he could easily destroy the human world but nobody keeps that same energy for that series so I’m not for NNT. At least yhwach was actually in the act and the novel reaffirmed the soul king being planet level with the menos feat.

Yhwach reiatsu was destroying multiple dimensions simultaneously that’s planet level+ power anyway you slice it. Not that you even need planet level power to beat this team they aren’t even capable of destroying the continent they’re on. Can you prove anyone on the team can destroy Britannia?

With all that being said I haven’t even brought up the speed or Hax advantage. No one here has the ability to stop fate manipulation that yhwach spams. And You can disregard the soul king menos feat not that it isn’t true I just don’t feel like looking up the accurate translation for the lines right now

@undre said:

@kingogkings777 said:

Yhwach cause apparently the almighty makes the person omnipotent and omniscient in the novel or something from what I heard.

I already knew that he said it but it was also said in the novel right?

@alextheboss: Maybe it could be multi-mountain, but then again Kenpachi at a very heavily restricted state tanked a mountain level explosion to the face, through the scaling with him and Gerard, Yhwach should easily tank those hits and replicate it.

@demongod_pablo:

that bull shit because meliodas is getting his ass handed right now by the demon king and when the the demon king was using meliodas body in the human world he didn’t threaten anything his best feat is island level. Saying meliodas is a threat to the human world is no different than Yusuke from Yu Yu Hakusho having multiple statements saying he could easily destroy the human world but nobody keeps that same energy for that series so I’m not for NNT.

True. I don't actually think Meliodas is a threat to the planet from what I've seen, I'm just saying a statement of how Yhwach can end the world over time isn't really enough for me to give him the win here. Yhwach can beat any of these guys 1v1, and even all together if they come at him stupidly, but this team has a lot of hax, and should have good teamwork as well. If Yhwach wins, it would probably be harder than his fight against Ichigo and Aizen.

Yhwach reiatsu was destroying multiple dimensions simultaneously that’s planet level+ power anyway you slice it. Not that you even need planet level power to beat this team they aren’t even capable of destroying the continent they’re on. Can you prove anyone on the team can destroy Britannia?

Yhwach was destroying the worlds overtime, he can't just bust planets whenever he wants to, unless the soul king one shotting a planet sized menos is legit.

With all that being said I haven’t even brought up the speed or Hax advantage. No one here has the ability to stop fate manipulation that yhwach spams. And You can disregard the soul king menos feat not that it isn’t true I just don’t feel like looking up the accurate translation for the lines right now

I've seen many people claim this but I've never seen the line myself. I saw a part of the book posted about when the soul king remade the words, and it was talking about that menos, but it never stated it was planet sized in the post I read. So until I see the line I'm not really going to take it that seriously.

@kingogkings777: Not sure but their are unconfirmed spoilers on redit

@kingogkings777: According to the novels their was someone above the Soul King.

He could win.

Oh my. So much wrong.

Yhwach's plan was always to destroy the worlds. He started by creating a imbalance of souls, which Mayuri countered. Then he got the SK killed, countered by Mimihagi. Then he took the power himself in order to bust them. There was no over time aspect. Did you even read the last arc?

@azureus:

He'd straight one shot everyone. And i said "somehow". He nulls passively all commandments.

@Aristeaus: Since Aizen can "earse" fodder shinigamis arm with just his presence , cant Ywach do the same to the NNT team ? Since he can cover 3 dimension with his reatsu .

@mrviking: Aizen can erase captains aswell. Yhwach can do the same when he gets serious. Thats pretty much what he was doing at the end

1. Against Mael.
2. We litteraly saw him do it on panel against Ichibei.
3. Lmao they‘re fodder to him so i didn’t entertain the idea of them actually killing him. But yeah in that case he’d simply resurrect.

@hope_w: did you just use spirit form as an argument against a bleach character? The entire verse specializes in destroying spirit forms + quincys truly destroy them, not even giving them afterlife.

@Aristeaus:

Yhwach's plan was always to destroy the worlds. He started by creating a imbalance of souls, which Mayuri countered. Then he got the SK killed, countered by Mimihagi. Then he took the power himself in order to bust them. There was no over time aspect. Did you even read the last arc?

This is what a planet bust looks like when it isn't over time.

Show me Yhwach doing that. After absorbing the soul king, if he could have just instantly accomplished his goal he would have. When he says he is going to destroy the world we see his power slowly spread, hence taking time.

The best feat in all of SDS is multi-mountain, something bleach character were doing way back in FKT arc. That same arc, people were palming multi-mountain level attacks and effortlessly breaking space/time warping kido with physical strength. Yhwach is far and away above these. It is not at all debatable. Busting 3 dimenions is infinitely more powerful then multi-mountain.

The Demon King's feat is arguably island level. They are at least casually multi mountian level at this point. Dangai Ichigo and trancended Aizen were the first multi mountain level character in bleach, and they would still be relevant in the final arc.

So, why even mention it if they can't use either one?

I didn't see that the OP said magic doesn't equal reiatsu, and I wasn't thinking about speed with Estarossa, but it's possible he could land a full counter, however Yhwach would probably avoid it with the almighty anyways.

No limit fallacy. Commonly referred to when people think one power will work universally, across all mediums, regardless of differentials.

I know what they are, so said they were NOT no limit fallacies, lol.

This is because the individuals he has fought generally have a higher DC then again, anything in the NNT universe. Goku's opponents can take punches from him quite often. But a punch from Goku would vape anyone in NNT, Naruto, Bleach, etc. Same thing here. Yhwach is so insanely far ahead in every aspect from NNT, that they would all explode instantly if he even thought about touching them. Ywach has one shot everyone he has come across except for Ichigo with Blut. All people with more DC then NNT has.

Yhwach hasn't realy shown his striking power is beyond multi mountain to island level.

@alextheboss: it said that the menos that the soul king killed became all of hueco mundo. Do you still need the translation?

Merlin's time spell takes 15 minutes to activate which is useless when yhwach can attack her instantly and she has no counter.

This also isn't the mel that ban since it's the DK in mel body. At least I don't think it should count until mel kicks him out if his body

OT:I think yhwach pulls out a win with high difficulty. Nnt team is already a pain to kill and yhwach would job too much at first but he can one shot many people here