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#1 Posted by floydfromhell97 (228 posts) - - Show Bio
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  • All feats are allowed
  • Yami can see Ichigo
  • Random Encounter-No Knowledge
  • Wins by Death or K.O.
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#2 Posted by Tetsukage (362 posts) - - Show Bio

I just created a thread so similar lol, great minds think alike.

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#3 Posted by FaradaySloth (7517 posts) - - Show Bio

Yami is faster but Ichigo is way more durable. Depends on yami’s endurance.

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#4 Posted by americanspeeddemon (7007 posts) - - Show Bio

@faradaysloth: He also has dark cloak dimension slash which could one shot.

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#5 Posted by Yamiyodare (712 posts) - - Show Bio

Dangai Ichigo wins by accident, and apologizes.

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#6 Posted by Tetsukage (362 posts) - - Show Bio

@yamiyodare: Ichigo isn't fast enough to keep up with Yami.

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#7 Posted by DevoidRuby (259 posts) - - Show Bio

Eh hem

Reiatsu Crush GG

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#8 Posted by Tetsukage (362 posts) - - Show Bio

@yamiyodare: not even close high tiers in BC are FTL.

EOS Ichigo isn't even that fast.

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#9 Posted by Yamiyodare (712 posts) - - Show Bio
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#10 Edited by SkySanji (4060 posts) - - Show Bio

Yami is faster and bybasses durability via Dark dimension slash he wins if he's actually lightspeed which I'm not sure about.

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#11 Edited by LeoTheGreatest (3762 posts) - - Show Bio

Why is yami considered LS?

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#12 Posted by ourmanuel (9404 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh god, the black clover LS controversy

@alextheboss thoughts?

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#13 Posted by Godren (3607 posts) - - Show Bio

Yami literally passively dies due to being fodder.

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#14 Posted by Godren (3607 posts) - - Show Bio

Yami has light speed reaction and combat speed, he can't actually move at lightspeed.

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#15 Posted by Tetsukage (362 posts) - - Show Bio

@godren: would that not be enough to evade Ichigo?

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#16 Edited by Godren (3607 posts) - - Show Bio

@tetsukage said:

@godren: would that not be enough to evade Ichigo?

Ichigo can easily evade it, people wank speed too much.

Yami just dies being in Ichigo's presence.

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#17 Posted by Tetsukage (362 posts) - - Show Bio

@godren: I didn't ask if Ichgio could evade it, I asked if Yami could evade Ichigo.

But since you said it how does Ichigo keep up with someone who fights at LS.

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#18 Posted by Godren (3607 posts) - - Show Bio

@godren: I didn't ask if Ichgio could evade it, I asked if Yami could evade Ichigo.

But since you said it how does Ichigo keep up with someone who fights at LS.

Depending on distance you literally only need to be Sub-rel to dodge light.

Yammy is town level or even lower, if Ichigo swings in any direction he gets vaporized.

Actually he just needs to stand there.

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#19 Edited by Tetsukage (362 posts) - - Show Bio

@godren:

Well this Ichigo isn't even sub rel, and Yami has an attack that bypasses durability.

So again how does Ichgio keep up with a man who can fight at LS.

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#20 Posted by Godren (3607 posts) - - Show Bio

@godren:

Well this Ichigo isn't even sub rel, and Yami has an attack that bypasses durability.

So again how does Ichgio keep up with a man who can fight at LS.

This Ichigo literally is equal to the same Ichigo in the TYBW.

It's like you didn't read what I said at all you're the 2nd person to ask me how.

Cutting through dimensions isn't as amazing as you think it is at least in Bleach, Ichigo can do this and so can Kenpachi.

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#21 Posted by ourmanuel (9404 posts) - - Show Bio

Even fullbring ichigo could bust towns by going bankai.

He’d literally just get pissed off by not being able to tag him an passively end him.

Then again, if yami’s really LS then to him, it’d be like a month before Ichigo got that angry.

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#22 Posted by Tetsukage (362 posts) - - Show Bio

@godren: since win is Dangai the same as Ichigo in the Blood War?

Because it's a valid question how does Ichigo keep up with Yami?

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#23 Posted by LeoTheGreatest (3762 posts) - - Show Bio

Anybody gonna post this ”Lightspeed” feat.

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#24 Posted by Tetsukage (362 posts) - - Show Bio

@leothegreatest: not sure how to post scans but, Light magic was confirmed LS and higher level mages can react/match that magic.

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#25 Posted by RikuYamaha (1045 posts) - - Show Bio

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/black-clover-characters-arent-light-speed-1994894/

go here, it fully explains why the lightspeed claim is stupid.

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#26 Posted by AlexTheBoss (16265 posts) - - Show Bio

@skysanji: @faradaysloth: Yami was only able to deal with light mages due to his pre cog, and even then most of their attacks may not have even been light speed to begin with. At best he is able to barely time light with pre cog, which isn't enough to win here.

Anybody gonna post this ”Lightspeed” feat.

I recommend you read this thread. I show all the feats and explain why he isn't light speed.

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/black-clover-characters-arent-light-speed-1994894/

Oh god, the black clover LS controversy

@alextheboss thoughts?

Ichigo stomps, only his dimensional slash has a chance of doing anything, but since this is a version of Ichigo beyond shinigami and hollows who casually swiped away an attack that can warp space time, pretty sure this isn't fair.

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#27 Posted by Godren (3607 posts) - - Show Bio

@godren: since win is Dangai the same as Ichigo in the Blood War?

Since the manga literally stated his power is on par with Dangai after he got his new Shikai.

Because it's a valid question how does Ichigo keep up with Yami?

Once again Yami can't move at lightspeed.

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#28 Posted by RikuYamaha (1045 posts) - - Show Bio
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#29 Posted by Tetsukage (362 posts) - - Show Bio

@godren: I must have missed the part where it says Dangai is the same as true shikia

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#30 Posted by FaradaySloth (7517 posts) - - Show Bio

@faradaysloth: He also has dark cloak dimension slash which could one shot.

How? And has he only used it against Vetto? Sorry I'm still not up to date with BC

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#31 Posted by Tetsukage (362 posts) - - Show Bio

@alextheboss: that's a nice thread, well done.

I guess he's not quite LS.

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#32 Posted by FaradaySloth (7517 posts) - - Show Bio

@godren:

Well this Ichigo isn't even sub rel, and Yami has an attack that bypasses durability.

So again how does Ichgio keep up with a man who can fight at LS.

Yeah, you're right Ichigo isn't sub-rel, he's above it. Dangai is the same as TYBW Ichigo

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#33 Posted by Tetsukage (362 posts) - - Show Bio

@faradaysloth: Ichigo isn't above sub rel, even at his current level.

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#34 Posted by FaradaySloth (7517 posts) - - Show Bio
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#35 Posted by Tetsukage (362 posts) - - Show Bio
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#36 Posted by FaradaySloth (7517 posts) - - Show Bio

@tetsukage: Well it isn't. Time to stop believing in shitty claims that have been debunked.

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#37 Posted by Tetsukage (362 posts) - - Show Bio

@faradaysloth: but you're the one who believes Ichigo is above sub rel.

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#38 Posted by FaradaySloth (7517 posts) - - Show Bio
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#39 Posted by Tetsukage (362 posts) - - Show Bio

@faradaysloth: well my mind is wide open and ready to be changed, Alex changed my mind on LS Yami in this thread alone.

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#40 Posted by Saxz (99 posts) - - Show Bio

@tetsukage:

Yhwach says this twice,I quote "you have regained the power you used to defeat Aizen"..

Both have a chance of winning though..Yami has decent precog and at least almost LightSpeed reaction..his reaction speeds exceeds ichigo and also Dimensional slash is a damn useful trump card.

However I am going to with Ichigo,any casual sword swing from ichigo would wreck Yami to oblivion ,and Dimensional slash may be resisted to an extent since Dangai ichigo has experience with space warping attacks.

So Yami has his speed advantage and dimensional slash

While ichigo just one shots with any move he makes

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#41 Posted by FaradaySloth (7517 posts) - - Show Bio

@tetsukage: Ichigo’s attacks made Yhwach barely react who reacted to mimihagj who’s relativistic.

Not really hard to understand.

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#42 Posted by Tetsukage (362 posts) - - Show Bio

@faradaysloth:

The Mimihagj feat is a lot of speculation though, I like to scale up from Ichibe and Yhwach's fight.

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#43 Posted by FaradaySloth (7517 posts) - - Show Bio

@tetsukage: there is no speculation, he crossed a distance where SOS would take a week in a few seconds. This is relativistic, the REAL speculative claim is that the stairs change the distance.

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#44 Posted by Tetsukage (362 posts) - - Show Bio

@faradaysloth: it's speculation because we don't know if Ichigo was able to travel at a constant speed of not.

That feat can be set at 3x LS or Mach 12k I've seen calcs for both

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#45 Posted by LeoTheGreatest (3762 posts) - - Show Bio

@tetsukage: there is no speculation, he crossed a distance where SOS would take a week in a few seconds. This is relativistic, the REAL speculative claim is that the stairs change the distance.

IIRC it was even faster than the Auswahlen light so there’s that.

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#46 Posted by Tetsukage (362 posts) - - Show Bio

@leothegreatest: like I just said that feat can be scaled high end 3x LS to low end Sub Rel.

Which is why I don't use it.

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#47 Posted by FaradaySloth (7517 posts) - - Show Bio

@tetsukage: ichigo travel speed is irrelevant

You don’t need calls for Mimihagi

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#48 Edited by LeoTheGreatest (3762 posts) - - Show Bio

@tetsukage said:

@leothegreatest: like I just said that feat can be scaled high end 3x LS to low end Sub Rel.

Which is why I don't use it.

Unless Ichigo was going down at less than Mach 1 then the feat is high end several times the speed of light and low end Reletivistic.

And it seemed to be faster then the auswahlen light which is straight up light.

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#49 Posted by Tetsukage (362 posts) - - Show Bio

@faradaysloth: I thought you where talking a about the speed Ichigo traveled from the Soul Palace.

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#50 Posted by FaradaySloth (7517 posts) - - Show Bio
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