Rules:
- In characters
- All feats are allowed
- Yami can see Ichigo
- Random Encounter-No Knowledge
- Wins by Death or K.O.
@faradaysloth: He also has dark cloak dimension slash which could one shot.
@yamiyodare: Ichigo isn't fast enough to keep up with Yami.
@yamiyodare: not even close high tiers in BC are FTL.
EOS Ichigo isn't even that fast.
@yamiyodare: Ichigo isn't fast enough to keep up with Yami.
Dangai Ichigo is faster
@godren: would that not be enough to evade Ichigo?
@godren: would that not be enough to evade Ichigo?
Ichigo can easily evade it, people wank speed too much.
Yami just dies being in Ichigo's presence.
@godren: I didn't ask if Ichgio could evade it, I asked if Yami could evade Ichigo.
But since you said it how does Ichigo keep up with someone who fights at LS.
@godren: I didn't ask if Ichgio could evade it, I asked if Yami could evade Ichigo.
But since you said it how does Ichigo keep up with someone who fights at LS.
Depending on distance you literally only need to be Sub-rel to dodge light.
Yammy is town level or even lower, if Ichigo swings in any direction he gets vaporized.
Actually he just needs to stand there.
Well this Ichigo isn't even sub rel, and Yami has an attack that bypasses durability.
So again how does Ichgio keep up with a man who can fight at LS.
Well this Ichigo isn't even sub rel, and Yami has an attack that bypasses durability.
So again how does Ichgio keep up with a man who can fight at LS.
This Ichigo literally is equal to the same Ichigo in the TYBW.
It's like you didn't read what I said at all you're the 2nd person to ask me how.
Cutting through dimensions isn't as amazing as you think it is at least in Bleach, Ichigo can do this and so can Kenpachi.
@godren: since win is Dangai the same as Ichigo in the Blood War?
Because it's a valid question how does Ichigo keep up with Yami?
@leothegreatest: not sure how to post scans but, Light magic was confirmed LS and higher level mages can react/match that magic.
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/black-clover-characters-arent-light-speed-1994894/
go here, it fully explains why the lightspeed claim is stupid.
@skysanji: @faradaysloth: Yami was only able to deal with light mages due to his pre cog, and even then most of their attacks may not have even been light speed to begin with. At best he is able to barely time light with pre cog, which isn't enough to win here.
Anybody gonna post this ”Lightspeed” feat.
I recommend you read this thread. I show all the feats and explain why he isn't light speed.
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/black-clover-characters-arent-light-speed-1994894/
Oh god, the black clover LS controversy
@alextheboss thoughts?
Ichigo stomps, only his dimensional slash has a chance of doing anything, but since this is a version of Ichigo beyond shinigami and hollows who casually swiped away an attack that can warp space time, pretty sure this isn't fair.
@godren: since win is Dangai the same as Ichigo in the Blood War?
Since the manga literally stated his power is on par with Dangai after he got his new Shikai.
Because it's a valid question how does Ichigo keep up with Yami?
Once again Yami can't move at lightspeed.
@alextheboss: lmao, i just linked it to your debunk. nice.
@godren: I must have missed the part where it says Dangai is the same as true shikia
@faradaysloth: He also has dark cloak dimension slash which could one shot.
How? And has he only used it against Vetto? Sorry I'm still not up to date with BC
@alextheboss: that's a nice thread, well done.
I guess he's not quite LS.
Well this Ichigo isn't even sub rel, and Yami has an attack that bypasses durability.
So again how does Ichgio keep up with a man who can fight at LS.
Yeah, you're right Ichigo isn't sub-rel, he's above it. Dangai is the same as TYBW Ichigo
@faradaysloth: Ichigo isn't above sub rel, even at his current level.
@faradaysloth: Ichigo isn't above sub rel, even at his current level.
That's hilariously untrue.
@faradaysloth: No it's actually true.
@tetsukage: Well it isn't. Time to stop believing in shitty claims that have been debunked.
@faradaysloth: but you're the one who believes Ichigo is above sub rel.
@tetsukage: Yep.
@faradaysloth: well my mind is wide open and ready to be changed, Alex changed my mind on LS Yami in this thread alone.
Yhwach says this twice,I quote "you have regained the power you used to defeat Aizen"..
Both have a chance of winning though..Yami has decent precog and at least almost LightSpeed reaction..his reaction speeds exceeds ichigo and also Dimensional slash is a damn useful trump card.
However I am going to with Ichigo,any casual sword swing from ichigo would wreck Yami to oblivion ,and Dimensional slash may be resisted to an extent since Dangai ichigo has experience with space warping attacks.
So Yami has his speed advantage and dimensional slash
While ichigo just one shots with any move he makes
@tetsukage: Ichigo’s attacks made Yhwach barely react who reacted to mimihagj who’s relativistic.
Not really hard to understand.
The Mimihagj feat is a lot of speculation though, I like to scale up from Ichibe and Yhwach's fight.
@tetsukage: there is no speculation, he crossed a distance where SOS would take a week in a few seconds. This is relativistic, the REAL speculative claim is that the stairs change the distance.
@faradaysloth: it's speculation because we don't know if Ichigo was able to travel at a constant speed of not.
That feat can be set at 3x LS or Mach 12k I've seen calcs for both
@tetsukage: there is no speculation, he crossed a distance where SOS would take a week in a few seconds. This is relativistic, the REAL speculative claim is that the stairs change the distance.
IIRC it was even faster than the Auswahlen light so there’s that.
@leothegreatest: like I just said that feat can be scaled high end 3x LS to low end Sub Rel.
Which is why I don't use it.
@tetsukage: ichigo travel speed is irrelevant
You don’t need calls for Mimihagi
@leothegreatest: like I just said that feat can be scaled high end 3x LS to low end Sub Rel.
Which is why I don't use it.
Unless Ichigo was going down at less than Mach 1 then the feat is high end several times the speed of light and low end Reletivistic.
And it seemed to be faster then the auswahlen light which is straight up light.
@faradaysloth: I thought you where talking a about the speed Ichigo traveled from the Soul Palace.
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