X-Men - Cyclops, Storm, Wolverine, (AOA)Nightcrawler and Gambit
Vs.
Midnighter
Rules
Morals off
Standard equipment
No BFR
Win by KO or Death only
Location: New York City, not in sight, 1 block away from each other
Who wins and why?
Midnighter. The X-Men listed here will be hard-pressed to even see Midnighter before he blitzes them and causes mass confusion. Their only hope would be Storm getting in the air miraculously before Midnighter is able to down her and coming up with something, although it is unlikely she can really do anything he couldn't just evade.
"Do you know what happens when a midnighter gets struck by lightning?"Nothing, seeing as she's never going to even hit Midnighter before he breaks her neck.
He doesn't, but it's not like that matters. New York City is an ideal place for someone like Midnighter to do combat with a group of X-Men such as the ones stipulated. His standard gear includes a plethora of various explosive devices that could kill anyone here instantly with the exception of Wolverine, who would be more than likely KO'd by one. If Storm, by some miracle, gets off the ground and higher than Midnighter can throw a weapon/explosive at her (another miracle), he is easily fast enough to travel up a building either by running horizontally or up the staircase/ladders/elevator shafts/etc. and make his way to the roof(s). After that, it's game over for Storm, who doesn't have the reflexes that put her in the same league as Midnighter and her lightning doesn't come down fast enough to even singe him.@Illuminatus said:
I wasn't aware Midnighter had gained the ability to Fly.@Shawnbaby said:
"Do you know what happens when a midnighter gets struck by lightning?"Nothing, seeing as she's never going to even hit Midnighter before he breaks her neck.
With what?Depends on how quick storm gets in the air. Once she is in the air, she will kill midnighter eventually especially since morals are off.
@Illuminatus said:
@Skaddix said:With what?Depends on how quick storm gets in the air. Once she is in the air, she will kill midnighter eventually especially since morals are off.
Not to side with Storm, but she could just manipulate the air pressure and cause him to stop breathing - that's assuming she gains distance.
Is that an ability that she has ever properly demonstrated?@Illuminatus said:
@Skaddix said:With what?Depends on how quick storm gets in the air. Once she is in the air, she will kill midnighter eventually especially since morals are off.
Not to side with Storm, but she could just manipulate the air pressure and cause him to stop breathing - that's assuming she gains distance.
@Illuminatus said:
@JediXMan said:Is that an ability that she has ever properly demonstrated?@Illuminatus said:
@Skaddix said:With what?Depends on how quick storm gets in the air. Once she is in the air, she will kill midnighter eventually especially since morals are off.
Not to side with Storm, but she could just manipulate the air pressure and cause him to stop breathing - that's assuming she gains distance.
Pretty sure. Almost positive. It's probable. No reason to doubt it. Anything could happen*
* I have absolutely no idea.
Storm Summons a Tornado directly on top of Midnighter.Yeah, because Storm is totally known for her pinpoint accuracy with tornados against people she doesn't even have a direct line-of-sight with. And, what is a tornado supposed to do to Midnighter? The guy trades blows with Maul, Apollo, and Jack Hawksmoor. It's not like your average tornado (or even an extremely powerful one) is going to hurt him. All Midnighter has to do is say "Door" and he'll be completely safe.
Or Nightcrawler teleports his head right off of his body.Again, no line-of-sight for Kurt to base this maneuver on. He doesn't use those maneuvers like ever unless he knows exactly where is enemy is residing, which wont be in one place for long.
@Shawnbaby said:Actually Storm is known for Pinpoint Accuracy of Things like that. and while a Tornado may not kill him...it could certainly BFR him.Storm Summons a Tornado directly on top of Midnighter.Yeah, because Storm is totally known for her pinpoint accuracy with tornados against people she doesn't even have a direct line-of-sight with. And, what is a tornado supposed to do to Midnighter? The guy trades blows with Maul, Apollo, and Jack Hawksmoor. It's not like your average tornado (or even an extremely powerful one) is going to hurt him. All Midnighter has to do is say "Door" and he'll be completely safe.
Or Nightcrawler teleports his head right off of his body.Again, no line-of-sight for Kurt to base this maneuver on. He doesn't use those maneuvers like ever unless he knows exactly where is enemy is residing, which wont be in one place for long.
If Midnighter speedblitz's most of them will go down before the fight even starts properly. Cyclops and Gambit are almost non-factors Midnighter will one-shot them. Wolverine can't really do much either due to him being to slow but the combination of AoA Nightcrawler and Storm could give them the win.
@Illuminatus said:No, she's not. Never once have I seen Storm actually display the skill to summon a tornado directly on top of someone she can't even see right off the bat.@Shawnbaby said:Actually Storm is known for Pinpoint Accuracy of Things like that. and while a Tornado may not kill him...it could certainly BFR him.Storm Summons a Tornado directly on top of Midnighter.Yeah, because Storm is totally known for her pinpoint accuracy with tornados against people she doesn't even have a direct line-of-sight with. And, what is a tornado supposed to do to Midnighter? The guy trades blows with Maul, Apollo, and Jack Hawksmoor. It's not like your average tornado (or even an extremely powerful one) is going to hurt him. All Midnighter has to do is say "Door" and he'll be completely safe.
Or Nightcrawler teleports his head right off of his body.Again, no line-of-sight for Kurt to base this maneuver on. He doesn't use those maneuvers like ever unless he knows exactly where is enemy is residing, which wont be in one place for long.
Storm sucking the air out of Midnighter's lungs isn't going to do squat. He's survived on the surface of Mars without a problem and both he and Apollo have implants that enable them to function in anaerobic environments. And he could just dodge her lightning, Kraven dodged a barrage of Storm's lightning strikes in Black Panther #520.
It's not in character for Scott to just take his visor off and go to town, regardless of his morals being done away with.x-men win. Visor off blast. he will hit him someday.
@CitizenBane said:
@mavfan626 said:
@CitizenBane said:
@mavfan626 said:
No Doors..
Standard equipment but no doors. Seems a bit uneven.
Midnighter having the ability to BFR character into space is unfair
But Nightcrawler's tele-dismemberment is totally fair?
Archangel was was able to react and get an attack in before Nightcrawler could dismember him, Midnighter shouldn't have any problems in doing the same.
So, she's going to make herself visible to Midnighter? Bad idea. As soon as he sees her, his most efficient contingency for dealing with her appropriately will already be unfolding upon her before she can even start to think up how to bring down a tornado on his head.@Illuminatus: I didn't say she would do it sight unseen.
@mavfan626 said:
@CitizenBane said:
@mavfan626 said:
@CitizenBane said:
@mavfan626 said:
No Doors..
Standard equipment but no doors. Seems a bit uneven.
Midnighter having the ability to BFR character into space is unfair
But Nightcrawler's tele-dismemberment is totally fair?
Archangel was was able to react and get an attack in before Nightcrawler could dismember him, Midnighter shouldn't have any problems in doing the same.
Sure, and Midnighter's main means of attacking people in the air being removed is fair? Especially when he's fighting multiple opponents at the same time? You could at least eliminate doors being used to BFR people but allow them to be used to reach Storm's position in the air.
@CitizenBane said:
@mavfan626 said:
@CitizenBane said:
@mavfan626 said:
@CitizenBane said:
@mavfan626 said:
No Doors..
Standard equipment but no doors. Seems a bit uneven.
Midnighter having the ability to BFR character into space is unfair
But Nightcrawler's tele-dismemberment is totally fair?
Archangel was was able to react and get an attack in before Nightcrawler could dismember him, Midnighter shouldn't have any problems in doing the same.
Sure, and Midnighter's main means of attacking people in the air being removed is fair? Especially when he's fighting multiple opponents at the same time? You could at least eliminate doors being used to BFR people but allow them to be used to reach Storm's position in the air.
Hmm... okay
Yes, as that is part of his power-set. All he has to do is make eye-contact with someone and within a second, millions of possible scenarios will play out in Midnighter's head. He then chooses the best one and executes it.@Illuminatus: And he automatically has knowledge of the X-Men and what their powers are?
@god_spawn said:
@CitizenBane: Does Nighter give off any form of scent? Or does he have another Silver Supes in street level form power that says otherwise?
I don't remember anything about him not giving off a scent, but how would Logan know which scent is 'Nighter's? He's never met the guy before.
@Shawnbaby said:
@CitizenBane: @Illuminatus: His Wiki is misleading then...it said that during a fight with someone it took him a few seconds to ascertain their powers.
That's from the new 52, we're presumably using Wildstorm Midnighter here. And it took him a few seconds because he'd been fighting for those few seconds so there wasn't a lot of ascertaining going on.
Why would we presumably use Wildstorm...isn't New 52 the most recent version?@Shawnbaby said:
@CitizenBane: @Illuminatus: His Wiki is misleading then...it said that during a fight with someone it took him a few seconds to ascertain their powers.That's from the new 52, we're presumably using Wildstorm Midnighter here. And it took him a few seconds because he'd been fighting for those few seconds so there wasn't a lot of ascertaining going on.
@Shawnbaby said:
@CitizenBane said:Why would we presumably use Wildstorm...isn't New 52 the most recent version?@Shawnbaby said:
@CitizenBane: @Illuminatus: His Wiki is misleading then...it said that during a fight with someone it took him a few seconds to ascertain their powers.That's from the new 52, we're presumably using Wildstorm Midnighter here. And it took him a few seconds because he'd been fighting for those few seconds so there wasn't a lot of ascertaining going on.
Yes, but people have enough sense to not use the new 52 versions because they don't have enough feats yet. There are plenty of threads that just say "Superman" but people still know enough to use his pre-Flashpoint feats.
Plus I posted a Wildstorm feat on the first page, and the OP didn't address that and insist on using DCnU feats only.
That aside, if morals are off Midnighter could signal the carrier to bomb the team from above, like this:
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