X Men (Fox) vs Thanos (MCU) with a twist

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#1 Edited by BacktoBasic301 (17 posts) - - Show Bio

X Men Team Members

Wolverine, Storm, Professor X, Magneto, Ice Man, Mystique, Rogue, Jean Grey (No Pheonix), Cyclops, Beast, Quicksilver, Colossus & Deadpool is included as well.

Location

Wakanda

Distance

200 Meters

Conditions

The X Men replace the Avengers and Wakandan soldiers in Wakanda. The X Men have the Mind Stone in their possession and have to deal with Thanos Army while Thanos will arrive 30 minutes after the start of the battle between the X men and his Army. Thanos has all the 5 other gems and is looking to complete the Gauntlet. Can The X men do what the Avengers failed to do?

Scenario II

Apocalypse is added to the X Men.

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#2 Posted by Scipio123 (644 posts) - - Show Bio

Prof X mindrapes.

Mags takes the gauntlet off Thanos and uses it against him.

Otherwise Thanos stomps

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#3 Posted by Supermanthor (22700 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos

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#4 Posted by Syntix (656 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos, Power Stone and Time Stone are enough to solo the X-men verse.

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#5 Posted by Koays (11815 posts) - - Show Bio

Magneto takes the army. Xavier can possibly KO Thanos.

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#6 Posted by BacktoBasic301 (17 posts) - - Show Bio

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#7 Posted by kasya_carey (5923 posts) - - Show Bio

How well does Thanos army do well against TK, Elements, and electromagnetism?

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#8 Posted by InvadedTBD (1898 posts) - - Show Bio

X-men win. They fodderize his army and all gang up on Thanos when he arrives.

With apocalypse they all get amped which makes this easier.

Just my opinion.

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#10 Posted by LordOfAllHumans (7313 posts) - - Show Bio

Anybody else feel like Xavier would know how to use the mind stone to solo? I mean I he think he can without it, but to not have the "alien" mind debat, I'll say he taps the power of the mind stone and solos.

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#11 Posted by deactivated-5d2cf537b4a1c (3506 posts) - - Show Bio

Power + Space + Reality + Time = One-Shot

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#12 Posted by LordOfAllHumans (7313 posts) - - Show Bio

@rajjar: right, because that's a thing he does.

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#13 Posted by CyberpunkCop (3406 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos

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#14 Posted by deactivated-5d01cd4d1eb4b (2650 posts) - - Show Bio

@rajjar said:

Power + Space + Reality + Time = One-Shot

Charles Mind = Thanos with 3 years old girl brain

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#15 Posted by deactivated-5d01cd4d1eb4b (2650 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos

@syntix said:

Thanos, Power Stone and Time Stone are enough to solo the X-men verse.

Say this to mental manipulators. Jean or Charles solo. Storm or Magneto wrecks the army

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#16 Posted by BacktoBasic301 (17 posts) - - Show Bio

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#17 Edited by Richubs (6605 posts) - - Show Bio

We have seen Thanos' mind resistance against Mantis.

She could subdue a celestial and keep him down for a decent amout of time.

I don't think we have seen Charles of Jean control or affect a different species yet. If they cannot affect a different species then I doubt they can affect Thanos because he's an alien with a completely different brain structure from that of humans or anything else on the planet.

Magneto could control his gauntlet and use it against him if he knew how to do it.

However he would also get one shot by Thanos if Thanos decides to go that route.

I'd say Thanos wins here

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#18 Edited by deactivated-5d2cf537b4a1c (3506 posts) - - Show Bio

@sexybayonetta22

Thanos's TP resistance that he showed on Titan should keep him conscious long enough to use the stones once, at worst. Unless Charles or Jean have actually one-shot telepaths or people with TP resistance feats, Thanos isn't going to go down as quick as you claim.

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@rajjar: right, because that's a thing he does.

He did it with all six with the snap.

And he did two at a time.

Who says he can't do 3? 4? 5?

I love how people throw the "holding back" argument whenever it comes to Clark or Diana in any universe, but then scream consistency whenever Thanos jobs to Peter and Stark.

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#19 Posted by LordOfAllHumans (7313 posts) - - Show Bio

@richubs: that argument falls apart because of Mantis. She had never encountered a Titan, yet everybody present was certain her psi powers would work on him because he had a mind and emotions. So according to your logic Mantis has a catalog of every species in the universe and knows which ones can be affected by her even though she has met several aliens at once and her powers worked on all of them even though she'd never encountered them. That my friend says unless explicitly stated, psi powers work universally not to mention the mind stone is in possession of the two most powerful telepaths in Fox, they should have no problem accessing a stone that involves a power they have, which completely bypasses that idiotic alien mind defense. Xavier and Jean stomp. Xavier can do it alone.

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#20 Posted by Richubs (6605 posts) - - Show Bio

@lordofallhumans: She showed that her powers have no limits and that she can control whoever she wanted to as long as she touches them.

Charles has never displayed that.

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#21 Edited by Richubs (6605 posts) - - Show Bio

@lordofallhumans: And where did you get the idea that they can control an Infinity Stone without any idea how it works? It might help to a certain extent but not to much.

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#22 Posted by ginman333 (3087 posts) - - Show Bio

Feel like the mind stone with X and Jean might be enough.

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#23 Posted by Supermanthor (22700 posts) - - Show Bio

Feel like the mind stone with X and Jean might be enough.

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#24 Posted by Rebake (4600 posts) - - Show Bio

@richubs: that argument falls apart because of Mantis. She had never encountered a Titan, yet everybody present was certain her psi powers would work on him because he had a mind and emotions. So according to your logic Mantis has a catalog of every species in the universe and knows which ones can be affected by her even though she has met several aliens at once and her powers worked on all of them even though she'd never encountered them. That my friend says unless explicitly stated, psi powers work universally not to mention the mind stone is in possession of the two most powerful telepaths in Fox, they should have no problem accessing a stone that involves a power they have, which completely bypasses that idiotic alien mind defense. Xavier and Jean stomp. Xavier can do it alone.

All it takes is a helmet to defend against that power...so it's not far fetched at all that the biology of certain beings (especially beings of great power) can naturally defend against or resist TP. We already know TP doesn't work on machines either, even if they become nearly autonomous like the Sentinels. Outriders are close to mindless and all TP feats from the X-Men involve humans or mutants (who are still a type of human). There's also the question of how many minds can be shut down and the max radius of effect TP has. Professor X in the movies has never shut down an army as massive as the Outrider army before and has a range limit. I think he would need Cerebro.

IMO, it comes down to Magneto and whether he can disarm Thanos before getting one-shotted. He's the MVP here with the most reliable power. With him, there's a fair chance the team can win.

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#25 Posted by LordOfAllHumans (7313 posts) - - Show Bio

@rebake: a helmet specifically designed to block telepathy, argument invalidated due to willfully omitting context. Stick to your highly illogical argument all you want, the X-Men have the mind stone countering you're "alien" mind debate. The mind stone is a universal object that has power over all mind in MCU, Xavier and Jean have it. They stomp with a thought.

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#26 Posted by Rebake (4600 posts) - - Show Bio

@lordofallhumans: and what makes that helmet block TP? Explain that and then we may have a case for it working against aliens (but we already know it doesn't work against robots, indicating non-human brains may be immune). Mind stone can influence from a distance (like when it made the Avengers argue), but not mind control to the degree it did with Hawkeye unless it makes direct contact. In direct combat, it's one of the weakest stones...but there is a chance that just like the Aether, Loki did not use the mind stone as well as it could've been used. So it's hard to say whether it's truly an insta-win device. Using infinity stones takes knowledge of how they work and physical power (or special item) to wield. It's not like the team can't win if TP doesn't work anyways. They still have Magneto, who could potentially solo the army or at least stop it from advancing. His power in the films is more reliable in combat and Thanos is confirmed to have metal on him, while it's not confirmed TP can just shut him down (it may slow him down though). Thanos has a strong mind and highly invulnerable alien body. While TP and empathy are not the same, to resist either takes a lot of mental strength. Magneto would have to come in and steal the gauntlet while Thanos is resisting. But I don't see TP reliably taking this alone, though it could if Thanos was alone and was the only target...it would still take physical powers to take down Thanos for good. Like I said before, Magneto is likely the MVP. His powers have much less limitations in direct combat and he can match Professor X's range without something like cerebro.

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#27 Posted by Richubs (6605 posts) - - Show Bio

@lordofallhumans: If the mind stone could actually control anyone it wanted from anywhere Avengers 1 would've turned out very differently.

We have never seen the mind stone do something like that and giving it to a telepathy won't change how it works.

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#28 Posted by BacktoBasic301 (17 posts) - - Show Bio

Couldn't Magneto in theory control the gauntlet and take it away from Thanos?

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#29 Posted by deactivated-5d2cf537b4a1c (3506 posts) - - Show Bio

Couldn't Magneto in theory control the gauntlet and take it away from Thanos?

He could try. He doesn't have full knowledge, but even when he fought Apoc he didn't manipulate the armor IIRC.

Thanos also has very great finger and arm strength, especially when casually pulling the Hulk's arms off of him.

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#30 Posted by Killme007 (138 posts) - - Show Bio

@backtobasic301: team get this.

defend own dead same as dr strange make a

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make team cannot attack physical.

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#31 Posted by Darkthunder (3486 posts) - - Show Bio

Charles mind controls THANOS and he takes off the gauntlet.

Round 2 is same

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#32 Posted by Helloman (30115 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos wins both rounds.

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#33 Posted by LordOfAllHumans (7313 posts) - - Show Bio

@richubs: so now the universal object that gives one power over the concept of mind won't work because the X-Men have it? Lmao. X-Men stomp. They use the exact same strategy that was used on Titan, except they actually succeed because they don't have Star Lord or Gamora to mess it up.

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#34 Posted by Richubs (6605 posts) - - Show Bio

@lordofallhumans: They don't succeed because none of them have any sense of strategy like Star Lord and this is a completely different scenario where Thanos isn't going for a 50 percent population removal it's a direct fight where he'll start by one shitting people and continue till no one is left.

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#35 Posted by LordOfAllHumans (7313 posts) - - Show Bio

@richubs: no he won't because he doesn't fight the way you're hoping he will. That Star Lord strategy was not some ingenious plan. They know about the gauntlet because they are protecting the mind stone and have two telepaths one with precognition. Xavier is a telepath his only means of attack are telepathic, he doesn't need a strategy to know to use his powers, and Magneto is here to move the metal glove, way easier than that failed strategy you seem to think is so great.

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#36 Posted by Richubs (6605 posts) - - Show Bio

@lordofallhumans: He was fighting the way I am talking about when he came to Wakanda. He didn't waste any time and took everyone down.

Only Magneto is their hope the telepaths cannot do anything because Thanos can resist a telepathy that can stop Celestials and is an alien brain they have not demonstrated the ability to manipulate. Everyone else in the team is fodder to Thanos and will get one shotted like he was doing in Wakanda.

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#37 Posted by RampageTheFirst (7948 posts) - - Show Bio

Do people even know how telepathy works? X-Men stomp, Jean can solo with TP and so can Charles.

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#38 Posted by blacharrt (1937 posts) - - Show Bio

@rampagethefirst: nope, Mantis has celestial telepathic feats, Jean and Charles do not.

Mantis stated it wouldn't hold Thanos for long, so even if Charles and Jean could stop him temporarily, it would be less than a minute. And they wouldn't be able to do ant lasting effects.

Thanos has the reality stones, so it could play out just like the Guardians fight in NoWhere

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#39 Posted by Mister_Surreal (11903 posts) - - Show Bio

Scenario 1: The X-Men murder stomp the army and Magneto rips off the guantlet immediately.

Scenario 2: Apocalypse solos.

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#40 Edited by Mister_Surreal (11903 posts) - - Show Bio

@blacharrt: Mantis is actually an empath so Thanos has no TP resistance feats. So he would definitely get mind stomped.

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#41 Posted by deactivated-5d2cf537b4a1c (3506 posts) - - Show Bio

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Mind Stone has only TPed people via contact to heart. As for the exception suggesting otherwise, it is room-level and is capable of DCEU Ares level TP, which isn't usable in combat.

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@blacharrt: Mantis is an empath, not a telepath and using empathy on a Celestial who has 0 empathy resistance feats is not impressive whatsoever, not that it matters anyways since she's an empath and they're both different.

Yeah because she's an empath and her empathy is weak af compared to Jean and Charles so Thanos has 0 telepathy feats to suggest he can resist their TP. Jean and Charles slaughterhouse and they're both more than capable of solo'ing.

Yeah, he does have the reality stones but he gets TP'ed before he gets to use it.

Learn wtf Empathy and Telepathy are lol.

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#44 Posted by geekryan (5490 posts) - - Show Bio

@blacharrt: Mantis is an empath, not a telepath and using empathy on a Celestial who has 0 empathy resistance feats is not impressive whatsoever, not that it matters anyways since she's an empath and they're both different.

Yeah because she's an empath and her empathy as weak as compared to Jean and Charles so Thanos has 0 telepathy feats to suggest he can resist their TP. Jean and Charles slaughterhouse and they're both more than capable of solo'ing.

Yeah, he does have the reality stones but he gets TP'ed before he gets to use it.

Learn wtf Empathy and Telepathy are lol.

This.

Magneto and Xavier could solo.

Apocalypse could arguably solo as well.

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#45 Posted by darko1234 (617 posts) - - Show Bio

Charles stomps

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#46 Edited by deactivated-5d01cd4d1eb4b (2650 posts) - - Show Bio

Mind gem is a joke in mcu. Prof solos

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#47 Posted by GateOfBabylon (4764 posts) - - Show Bio

Magneto, Storm, Ice Man is all that is needed for the army. The rest make the job easier.

Charles solos Thanos.

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#48 Posted by RampageTheFirst (7948 posts) - - Show Bio

Charles solo's, QS solo's, Jean solo's and Magneto solo's.

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#49 Posted by Rijehu (1865 posts) - - Show Bio

The X Men wreck. Mags and Storm could solo the army, together they wreak havoc. Thanos is being mind raped along with any survivors.

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#50 Posted by mm7910 (296 posts) - - Show Bio

X men only win scenario 2. A few members of the x men may not survive before even Thanos gets there (probably Beast). Then when he does he knows Prof X is there and will already be using the stones so he can’t get into his head.

Apocalypse in scenario 2 is the only hope. He can hold off Thanos while Mags gets some blows in and then X gets in his head.