X-Man vs. Dr. Doom

Nathan Grey, AKA X-Man

vs.

Victor Von Doom, AKA Dr. Doom

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Round 1

• Nate is X-Man
• No prep
• In character
• Takes place in the Savage Land
• Win by death or KO

Round 2

• Nate is Shaman
• 3 days prep
• In character
• Takes place in Genosia
• Win by death or KO

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Doom both rounds, prep for him makes it even easier and for round 1 his suit has so much built in protection.

Doom with prep?! :O

Doom both rounds.

Doom for both

Victor

Victor is not taking Nate in a random..that's pretty ridiculous.

What about if Nate burns out trying to defeat Doom. Pre Shaman does that quite often.

With no prep, i'm going Nate Grey. Doom, for all his feats... is still just a guy in a suit. With Nate's abilities that shouldn't matter. Nate should be able to incap/kill him very quickly. With prep on the other hand.... yeah Gotta go with Doom for Round 2.

@juiceboks

Victor is not taking Nate in a random..that's pretty ridiculous.

@mr_ingenuity: I don't think he would. Nate could send him into a seizure or make Doom think he's 2 years old. His tp resistance wouldn't be enough to keep someone as powerful as Nate away.

@juiceboks: Shields should take care of TK & unlike Shaman, Pre Shaman isn't casually busting cities. Doom's tech has already drained Nate before & it has only gotten better.

Also full incantations have been able to hurt Sentry & Sakaar. Plus Doom's summons.

Not saying it would be easy but 7/10 is plausible

@fatherchaos: @tt_4_humanity: @huey_freeman34: @daredevildd78: @mr_ingenuity:

And people called out Batman "fanboys" for "wanking" Batman. This is proof of double standards against Batman in battles.

Round 1 majority undoubtedly goes to a Nate Grey who has extremely destructive power unchecked. As for round 2, Doctor Doom is still human. He needs more than 3 days to tackle Shaman Nate Grey, probably at least 3 weeks researching for a way to tackle the likes of him.

Therefore, Nate Grey wins both rounds.

Nate, both

@wenjun--chew: I have never responded to you, I'm not even sure I have posted in a thread you've created.

So If you must insult me or imply I'm a fanboy. Please note I've read the material involving this thread.

@mr_ingenuity: Never called you a fanboy. I'm just talking about the criticism levelled at Batman fans for claiming that "Batman auto-wins with prep" when there are other fans who said the same "Doctor Doom auto-wins with prep" and were never criticized for it.

@mr_ingenuity: lol

@mr_ingenuity: His TK should be able to bypass the shields. Sue has created force fields in his body before IIRC (or at least Doom acknowledged that it could be done). And TP is still a valid way for Nate to win. When did Doom drain Nate? Was he fighting him? Did he prep for the encounter or something?

I acknowledge the fact that Victor can beat Nate. But I don't believe it will happen before Nate turns him into a vegetable. Emma has gotten into Doom's mind before, she just couldn't take control of him IIRC.

Doom stomps. Hard. Both times. 3 days prep? Give him 3 seconds and his psionic refractor stomps by itself.

When did Emma get into his mind?

@wenjun--chew: Batman with prep never depowered Abstracts.

@juiceboks: Doom's shield have tanked multiple forms of energy not sure psionics gets a pass.

I stated "Doom's tech". Stryfe used Doom's tech to drain Nate.

So I guess it comes down to will Doom drain Nate, before Nate goes for a mental assault.

@bones309: Victor was being interrogated by Emma and he commented that his mind is no place for a measly telepath to go into or something along those lines. I'm on my phone so I cant post scans.

@@mr_ingenuity It has but I don't remember it blocking TK on Nate's level.

Oh yea I remember that. Fair enough I guess.

I don't think Doom would just go straight for draining him though, his ego wouldn't likely allow it. The most often times he's drained is when he's confronted characters he knew he couldn't outfight like Norrin and Hulk. Otherwise he wouldn't have a reason to drain them. Victor can beat Nate if he's smart about it, but Nate can incapacitate him with a thought and I see that happening for a majority.

@juiceboks: Nope. Doom's ego is too big for him not to drain Nate.

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Also Nate favors TK over TP. Not saying Nate wouldn't uses it 4/10 times but he has little control unless provoked by AoA level of evil.

All I remember is him telling her to stop "attempting" to enter his mind one time.

@ssj_god

dr doom

@juiceboks: Sue uses Hyperforce, its a completely different mechanic than TK. Doom has shown powerful resistance to TK WITHOUT his helmet. Nate is not getting into his head with his tech active. I doubt he can even do it without his tech.

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Doom, all rounds.

Nathan.

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Nate

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