X-Man (TK only) vs two Magnetos

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#1  Edited By ssj_god

rules:

  1. morals are off
  2. X-Man is shaman form have a normal human body here (means no psionic form.. no reforming after physical hits).. and only have his tk abilities and it's applications as his mutant powers.... this is essentially test of his telekinesis
  3. two magnetos are perfectly in sync
  4. both parties have full knowledge on each other
  5. battle starts on the Eiffel Tower
  6. win by any means

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which side prevails?

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I have little to no knowledge on X Man. Not enough to comment here.

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@rbt said:

I have little to no knowledge on X Man. Not enough to comment here.

well... he only has tk here...

think of a powerful tk user (can affect bigger size with tk than magneto can with magnetism) with molecular level of control.

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@ssj_god said:
@rbt said:

I have little to no knowledge on X Man. Not enough to comment here.

well... he only has tk here...

think of a powerful tk user (can affect bigger size with tk that magneto can with magnetism) with molecular level of control.

Molecular level of control? That's..dangerous. Also, isn't Nate unkillable? As in he doesn't even exist in normal universe or something like that?

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@rbt said:
@ssj_god said:
@rbt said:

I have little to no knowledge on X Man. Not enough to comment here.

well... he only has tk here...

think of a powerful tk user (can affect bigger size with tk that magneto can with magnetism) with molecular level of control.

Molecular level of control? That's..dangerous. Also, isn't Nate unkillable? As in he doesn't even exist in normal universe or something like that?

yup.. molecular level of control

well.. he's not unkillable... but he'd be almost unkillable to magneto... but here... he only have his human body with flesh and blood.. with nothing except tk as powers.... this is a test of TK only.

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@ssj_god said:
@rbt said:
@ssj_god said:
@rbt said:

I have little to no knowledge on X Man. Not enough to comment here.

well... he only has tk here...

think of a powerful tk user (can affect bigger size with tk that magneto can with magnetism) with molecular level of control.

Molecular level of control? That's..dangerous. Also, isn't Nate unkillable? As in he doesn't even exist in normal universe or something like that?

yup.. molecular level of control

well.. he's not unkillable... but he'd be almost unkillable to magneto... but here... he only have his human body with flesh and blood.. with nothing except tk as powers.... this is a test of TK only.

Oh. Well, like I said. Don't know enough about Nate. Anything I say would be speculation.

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@rbt said:
@ssj_god said:
@rbt said:
@ssj_god said:
@rbt said:

I have little to no knowledge on X Man. Not enough to comment here.

well... he only has tk here...

think of a powerful tk user (can affect bigger size with tk that magneto can with magnetism) with molecular level of control.

Molecular level of control? That's..dangerous. Also, isn't Nate unkillable? As in he doesn't even exist in normal universe or something like that?

yup.. molecular level of control

well.. he's not unkillable... but he'd be almost unkillable to magneto... but here... he only have his human body with flesh and blood.. with nothing except tk as powers.... this is a test of TK only.

Oh. Well, like I said. Don't know enough about Nate. Anything I say would be speculation.

well not much to speculate.. this is what exactly nate is with tk

think of a powerful tk user (can affect bigger size with tk than magneto can with magnetism) with molecular level of control.

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#12  Edited By oceanmaster21

x_man wins

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x_man wins

hmm... doesn't magneto have quite fine degree of control aswell?.... double the ability with two magnetos and they can pose a threat can't they?

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If X-Man has molecular level of TK and not limited by magnetism, why can't he pull a Dr. Manhattan on Magneto(s)?

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#15  Edited By ssj_god

If X-Man has molecular level of TK and not limited by magnetism, why can't he pull a Dr. Manhattan on Magneto(s)?

dr. manhattan?

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Nate Grey should take this in a good fight as I see his TK overpowering both magnetos

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The 2 Magnetos are influenced to kill each other. Shouldn't be difficult.

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The 2 Magnetos are influenced to kill each other. Shouldn't be difficult.

how? o.O

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Nate just depowers both of them with a thought.

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Nate

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Nate just depowers both of them with a thought.

that's not allowed.. read op.. he only has tk

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@ssj_god said:
@juiceboks said:

Nate just depowers both of them with a thought.

that's not allowed.. read op.. he only has tk

That's not a strategy he would need TP for.

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Nate I think.

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@ssj_god said:
@juiceboks said:

Nate just depowers both of them with a thought.

that's not allowed.. read op.. he only has tk

That's not a strategy he would need TP for.

he only have tk in this battle... no other powers at all

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Whoever acts quickest wins. Every person in this battle can feasibly disintegrate the other with a thought, they just don't because one panel fights don't sell comics. With that said, technically TK has no definable limits in how it exerts force and ferrokinesis does, Nate can reinforce himself on a subatomic level whereas Magneto can only use EM fields.

Still, it's a quickdraw matter.

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#31 juiceboks  Moderator

@ssj_god That's all he would need to do something like that.

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@ssj_god That's all he would need to do something like that.

hmm... i see.. so how'd he win?

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For the record, Nate ain't going through Maggie's TP defenses.

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#34  Edited By Caetus_

Molecular level tk? then Nate takes it. Otherwise, Magnus wins

Atomikill here

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@ssj_god said:
@juiceboks said:

Nate just depowers both of them with a thought.

that's not allowed.. read op.. he only has tk

Creative use of telekinesis on Nate's level could depower somebody by directly influencing their brain on the cellular level, or directly attacking the X-gene.

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@adamtrmm said:

For the record, Nate ain't going through Maggie's TP defenses.

tp or any other ability of nate's isn't allowed anyway

@ssj_god said:
@juiceboks said:

Nate just depowers both of them with a thought.

that's not allowed.. read op.. he only has tk

Creative use of telekinesis on Nate's level could depower somebody by directly influencing their brain on the cellular level, or directly attacking the X-gene.

hmm... yes.. but there're two magneto's attacking him simultaneously.

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@caetus_ said:

Molecular level tk? then Nate takes it. Otherwise, Magnus wins

Atomikill here

are you @_atomikill_ ?

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#38  Edited By LordOfAllHumans

@ssj_god said:
@adamtrmm said:

For the record, Nate ain't going through Maggie's TP defenses.

tp or any other ability of nate's isn't allowed anyway

@lordofallhumans said:
@ssj_god said:
@juiceboks said:

Nate just depowers both of them with a thought.

that's not allowed.. read op.. he only has tk

Creative use of telekinesis on Nate's level could depower somebody by directly influencing their brain on the cellular level, or directly attacking the X-gene.

hmm... yes.. but there're two magneto's attacking him simultaneously.

So a guy that can manipulate multiple things with his mind at once (including the many many molecules in matter when he is manipulating matter on that level) is going to have a hard time thinking about two people at once? I don't see that being an issue if that is the route he takes.

I wasn't necessarily saying he would even do this, only that it doesn't take telepathy to shut off mutant powers, if you are telekinetic that can manipulate matter all the way down to the molecular level. As a telepath is not really depowering a mutant (unless the psi energy is physically effecting the brain), but is really only removing their ability to access that power. For example, telepath can't stop Wolverine from healing because that power is not mentally controlled, unless they use a complicated method of tricking his brain into thinking there is no damage to heal and thus the autonomous functions of healing don't trigger and even that might not work. A telekinetic would be able to actually depower someone because the method would be physically altering the person, not just making them think they can't use their powers anymore.

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@ssj_god said:
@adamtrmm said:

For the record, Nate ain't going through Maggie's TP defenses.

tp or any other ability of nate's isn't allowed anyway

@lordofallhumans said:
@ssj_god said:
@juiceboks said:

Nate just depowers both of them with a thought.

that's not allowed.. read op.. he only has tk

Creative use of telekinesis on Nate's level could depower somebody by directly influencing their brain on the cellular level, or directly attacking the X-gene.

hmm... yes.. but there're two magneto's attacking him simultaneously.

So a guy that can manipulate multiple things with his mind at once (including the many many molecules in matter when he is manipulating matter on that level) is going to have a hard time thinking about two people at once? I don't see that being an issue if that is the route he takes.

I wasn't necessarily saying he would even do this, only that it doesn't take telepathy to shut off mutant powers, if you are telekinetic that can manipulate matter all the way down to the molecular level. As a telepath is not really depowering a mutant (unless the psi energy is physically effecting the brain), but is really only removing their ability to access that power. For example, telepath can't stop Wolverine from healing because that power is not mentally controlled, unless they use a complicated method of tricking his brain into thinking there is no damage to heal and thus the autonomous functions of healing don't trigger and even that might not work. A telekinetic would be able to actually depower someone because the method would be physically altering the person, not just making them think they can't use their powers anymore.

yes i understood what you meant... i just said.. won't he find it hard if two magnetos also tries to manipulate him simultaneously.. and he have to defend and attack two magnetos all at once?

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@ssj_god said:
@lordofallhumans said:
@ssj_god said:
@adamtrmm said:

For the record, Nate ain't going through Maggie's TP defenses.

tp or any other ability of nate's isn't allowed anyway

@lordofallhumans said:
@ssj_god said:
@juiceboks said:

Nate just depowers both of them with a thought.

that's not allowed.. read op.. he only has tk

Creative use of telekinesis on Nate's level could depower somebody by directly influencing their brain on the cellular level, or directly attacking the X-gene.

hmm... yes.. but there're two magneto's attacking him simultaneously.

So a guy that can manipulate multiple things with his mind at once (including the many many molecules in matter when he is manipulating matter on that level) is going to have a hard time thinking about two people at once? I don't see that being an issue if that is the route he takes.

I wasn't necessarily saying he would even do this, only that it doesn't take telepathy to shut off mutant powers, if you are telekinetic that can manipulate matter all the way down to the molecular level. As a telepath is not really depowering a mutant (unless the psi energy is physically effecting the brain), but is really only removing their ability to access that power. For example, telepath can't stop Wolverine from healing because that power is not mentally controlled, unless they use a complicated method of tricking his brain into thinking there is no damage to heal and thus the autonomous functions of healing don't trigger and even that might not work. A telekinetic would be able to actually depower someone because the method would be physically altering the person, not just making them think they can't use their powers anymore.

yes i understood what you meant... i just said.. won't he find it hard if two magnetos also tries to manipulate him simultaneously.. and he have to defend and attack two magnetos all at once?

I don't see why the number of the attackers would matter unless you have some evidence that two Magnetos (or even one) can get through or overwhelm his tk shield which would be his most likely means of defense. Grey psis are multitaskers, they can do multiple psionic feats both telepathic and telekinetic at the same time. Nate frequently flies, uses a force field and blasts at the same time, doesn't seem difficult to me for him to shield and attack two brains at once.