World War Hulk vs Battle Angel Alita (Last Order)

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Battle Takes place on ZOTT arena. Moral off, no prep.

For those unfamiliar with Alita's abilities:

- Panzer Kunst (Armored Art): Developed on Mars it is considered the strongest martial arts in known space, it is developed to fight cyborgs and focuses on armor penetration techniques.

- Hertza Haeon ("Heart Strike", also called Hertzer Hauen): One of Alita's most commonly used moves, the Hertza Haeon is a strike that delivers a high-frequency vibration to the victim, bypassing the victim's armour, and concentrating kinetic energy that, when used correctly, can be used to destroy or at least disrupt function of the brain or heart. It can be nullified with a vibration of the same wavelength.

- Geschoss Schlag ("Missile Blow", also written as Geschoß Schlag): A supersonic punch that adds electromagnetism to the impact, delivering more force to the strike.

- Hertzer Nadel ("Heart Needle"): A two-part Übergeheimnis combination attack from the Schneider School, also called Hertzer Fahren ("Heart Driver").

  • Verschlag ("Partition" or "Box"): The first part of the attack, an initial Hertza Haeon-like strike is first applied in order to set loose a shockwave which bounces around inside the body, increasing in momentum and energy, before finally focusing on the extremities such as the limbs or joints. The opponent might notice this as a slight ringing in their ears. Note that while Hertza Haeon is usually delivered through the heel of the palm, Verschlag is done via the knuckles of the Künstler's fist.
  • Hertzer Nadel – The second strike, driving a second Verschlag into the focal point of the shock wave, which causes the pent-up energy to explode from within.

- Plasma: Alita also uses Plasma attacks to devastating effects.

Alita is a cyborg, able to perform attack at super sonic speed.

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#3 juiceboks  Moderator

Alita dies from the gamma bursts..not that she can hurt him regardless.

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#4  Edited By bouncyhippo

I think Alita may take this one. She can just stay in the air and throw laser beams at Hulk. I personally think Hulk loses to others who can fly. He's lost to Thor, Iron-Man, Jean Grey, and many other flyers.

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@bouncyhippo: He's also stomped Thor, Iron Man, Jean Greg and other flyers into oblivion. He's consistently been able to grab flyers out of the air; besides, lasers won't kill Hulk; the only way to beat his healing factor would be to KO him, in Alita's case.

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Alita dies from the gamma bursts..not that she can hurt him regardless.

In last order Alita has no organic matter so gamma radiation can't harm her.

I think it is an interesting fight to see if Hulk's strength beats Alita's agility

Alita moves at super sonic, and with plasma attacks I think she can KO Hulk given the chance

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#7 juiceboks  Moderator

@flonominal: The gamma bursts he emits are more than just radiation. He was causing the Eastern Seaboard to crumble just by walking, and this was when he was holding back. Alita can't actually hurt him, and she'd get disintegrated from the force of his presence let alone his attacks.

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@flonominal: The gamma bursts he emits are more than just radiation. He was causing the Eastern Seaboard to crumble just by walking, and this was when he was holding back. Alita can't actually hurt him, and she'd get disintegrated from the force of his presence let alone his attacks.

Two question.

1. Is gamma burst directional or omni-directional?

2. Can he use electro-magnetism?

I want to know because With Alita's speed, directional AoE can be dodged quite easily. Plus Alita's body is made from nanites that can form a material harder than diamond

This new blade was hard as diamond and could only be honed with high pressure water or supersonic waves. It consisted of rare metals, including scandium, yttrium andlutetium, and had patterns suggestive of Damascus steel.

So I want to know if the burst is strong enough to shatter diamond.

As for force of presence, Alita got it too. Refer to this page, you can also see the notes on bottom of the page explaining the move.

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@flonominal: The gamma bursts are omni-directional. The blasts were causing planetary damage when he was holding back..Alita can't survive being in his presence let alone a thunderclap which shattered the shields of a being as powerful as Dr. Strange and oneshotted characters that have gone toe to toe against Savage Hulk.

She also can't hurt a being who's tanked planetary blasts to his face.

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Before people get out of hand, does Alita have any planetary level strength, energy attacks, blunt force resistance? Because nothing short of this will put Green Scar down... he has taken a continent busting attack to the chest with a smile on his face and has taken a planetary busting kinetic energy with nothing but a bloody nose and he wasn't even as angry as in WWH.

And from what i am seeing here, she doesn't even belong in his presence to be honest let alone fight him.

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#11  Edited By TTrickshoTT

@atheistknowledge said:

Before people get out of hand, does Alita have any planetary level strength, energy attacks, blunt force resistance? Because nothing short of this will put Green Scar down... he has taken a continent busting attack to the chest with a smile on his face and has taken a planetary busting kinetic energy with nothing but a bloody nose and he wasn't even as angry as in WWH.

And from what i am seeing here, she doesn't even belong in his presence to be honest let alone fight him.

Yes and no, her punches can't burst planets but she can morph planets such as grow a pair of wings for a planet and fly it around. She houses 2 quantum comptuers: Melchizedek and Zeus, both have future predicting abilities. She is also remotely powered by wormhole reactor of Jupitor's Jovian alliance.

Here is an example of her morphing ability, note the morphed material also turned into the same substance as her nano body:

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One thing I'd like to point out is her martial arts is specifically designed to fight opponents with strong defense. Hertza Haeon's principle is to send a high frequency shock into target's skull and destroy the brain from within, think like a armor penetration shell cook the tank pilots from within. A more advanced technique can send a high frequency shockwave continuously move inside target's skill unless disabled with a matching frequency delivered at 1/10000 of a second window.

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@flonominal: Cool but that just wont cut it from what i see... Weaker incarnations of the Hulk have had their brains stabbed, shot, exploded, burned... it never was enough to stop Hulk and WWH just works on a whole new level like i said a kinetic energy attack that is capable of destroying a planet only made his nose bleed and he wasn't at WWH levels then just regular Green Scar persona the same persona that inhaled gas from Pandoras box... which registered at 133.5 Hercs(one Herc being the maximum energy Hercules can expand in one blow) and Hulk inhaled that inside his body and still survived it's devastating effect.

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Alita can get this.

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@flonominal: If she's a cyborg then she does have organic matter.

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@flonominal: If she's a cyborg then she does have organic matter.

She has a chip instead of a brain.

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@nelomaxwell said:

@flonominal: If she's a cyborg then she does have organic matter.

She has a chip instead of a brain.

Then she's an android? Why is she called a Cyborg?

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@realitywarper said:
@nelomaxwell said:

@flonominal: If she's a cyborg then she does have organic matter.

She has a chip instead of a brain.

Then she's an android? Why is she called a Cyborg?

At the beginning the Alita we followed the adventures was a Cyborg.

Now she is entirely cybernetic then she is an android.

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#22  Edited By MarvelDCnerdkng

Hulk wins

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Hulk no sells then 1 shots

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WW Hulk will smash then have Cyborg smashing pieces sent to the junk yard

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Alita is this good?

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@TLCBonaparte: Gamma ray burst can pulverize whole planets and travel very far (more powerfull than the Deathstar superlaser in terms of destructive ability) Also electromagnetic gamma rays cant be deflected by magnetic fields

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@atheistknowledge: I wonder what happens if you literally make his head explode, or make him at least deaf due to ultra high pitched waves going through his head

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Glad to see the movie is having an effect with Alita's popularity.

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What do you mean electromagnetism can't deflect gamma rays? It is a type of radiation, hence it travels via wave, and magnetism specifically can disrupt waveforms. When did Hulk destroy a planet btw? I am not doubting he can, more just curious.

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@TLCBonaparte: depends on the type of gamma ray

https://kids.britannica.com/students/assembly/view/171590

http://what-when-how.com/cosmic-gamma-radiation/interactions-with-magnetic-fields-cosmic-gamma-radiation/

I dont fully understand the second one but from what i can tell it doesnt really (at least not all)

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@jocgame: Oh that's interesting. Didn't know Gamma radiation had that property.