World Breaker Hulks vs. Justice League of America

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@factg: Superman can deal with planet busting AoE blasts on the regular? Scans?

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@professorrespect said:

@factg: Superman can deal with planet busting AoE blasts on the regular? Scans?

There at least 7 or 8 mftl and planetary strength level super heros on this list and you dont think WBH gets stomped?

(Edit- I didn't realize it was 4 WHBs. But they still should lose with moderate difficulty.)

  • Superman
  • Wonder Woman
  • Martian Manhunter
  • Doctor Fate (Hector Hall)
  • Wally West
  • Barry Allen
  • Jay Garrick
  • Captain Atom
  • Orion
  • Firestorm
  • Shazam
  • Hal Jordan
  • Kyle Rayner
  • John Stewart
  • Guy Gardner
  • Simon Baz
  • Kilowog
  • Obsidian
  • Mon-El w/ Ion
  • Power Girl
  • Superboy (Conner)
  • Supergirl
  • The Atom (Palmer)
  • Plastic Man
  • Lightray
  • Batman w/ Hellbat
  • Batman w/ Justice Buster
  • Steel (John Henry)
  • Red Tornado
  • Wonder Girl
  • Zatanna
  • Citizen Steel
  • Aquaman
  • Starman
  • Stargirl
  • Krypto
  • Black Lightning
  • Mera
  • Hawkman
  • Hawkgirl
  • Vixen
  • Big Barda
  • Atom Smasher
  • Cyborg
  • Mr. Miracle
  • Booster Gold
  • Blue Beetle (Reyes)
  • Animal Man
  • Beast Boy
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Team handily, more than 4 of them can solo 1 WBH. And BFR and hax is allowed means Mismatch etc.

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@factg said:
@professorrespect said:

@factg: Superman can deal with planet busting AoE blasts on the regular? Scans?

Second isn't planet busting. First is him being knocked out via Brainiac destroying a sun and having it destroy a planet next to it, which for obvious reasons isn't valid either.

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@jaggernutt: Speedsters are pretty useless considering it's a AoE blast. You can't really escape it.

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@jaggernutt: Speedsters are pretty useless considering it's a AoE blast. You can't really escape it.

Didn't Flash outrun the big bang?

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@factg said:
@professorrespect said:

@factg: Superman can deal with planet busting AoE blasts on the regular? Scans?

Second isn't planet busting. First is him being knocked out via Brainiac destroying a sun and having it destroy a planet next to it, which for obvious reasons isn't valid either.

He was on the planet, so he was pretty close. That's a supernova pretty much.

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@jaggernutt: Speedsters are pretty useless considering it's a AoE blast. You can't really escape it.

Gamma powered AOE blasts arent taking down multiple Krytonians, the most powerful Green lanterns or Wally West, Capton Atom or Orion. Arent you overating them just a tiny bit?

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@factg said:
@professorrespect said:

@jaggernutt: Speedsters are pretty useless considering it's a AoE blast. You can't really escape it.

Didn't Flash outrun the big bang?

Not even sure how you'd even do that, but pretty sure he hasn't.

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@factg said:
@professorrespect said:

@factg: Superman can deal with planet busting AoE blasts on the regular? Scans?

Second isn't planet busting. First is him being knocked out via Brainiac destroying a sun and having it destroy a planet next to it, which for obvious reasons isn't valid either.

He was on the planet, so he was pretty close. That's a supernova pretty much.

Regardless, it doesn't prove anything beyond Sups getting knocked out. You got any more high ends we gotta parade through like he's consistently not getting hurt or knocked out by far less?

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@factg said:
@professorrespect said:

@jaggernutt: Speedsters are pretty useless considering it's a AoE blast. You can't really escape it.

Didn't Flash outrun the big bang?

Thats one reason many on here believe the Flash beats even the Silver Surfer.

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That level of Gamma radiation alone is going to kill a lot of the team.

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Bruh this JLA team is atrocious lmao. All Post-Crisis feats? BRUH

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That level of Gamma radiation alone is going to kill a lot of the team.

Whats the most powerful gamma blast feat?

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#65  Edited By ProfessorRespect

@jaggernutt said:
@factg said:
@professorrespect said:

@jaggernutt: Speedsters are pretty useless considering it's a AoE blast. You can't really escape it.

Didn't Flash outrun the big bang?

Thats one reason many on here believe the Flash beats even the Silver Surfer.

Classic CV used to wank Flash to that level and far beyond, yes. I'd would have hoped that people would look past that by now.

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@professorrespect:

Oh really. I just bumped the Flash vs Surfer thread. I may even summon @reaveration to the debate.

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@professorrespect:

Oh really. I just bumped the Flash vs Surfer thread. I may even summon @reaveration to the debate.

Please don't. We've all moved on.

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@kirkseven: Tbh, captain atom can solo. Not sure about others.

Perhaps.

I do see him thinking regular Post Crisis Supes > WBH and such. Despite being here for a decade.

He's one of those 'classics' I guess.

PC supes is obviously isn't above or even near WBH.

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I don't know how Wally or barry will get affected by the gamma rays. Seeing it's a life and death situation and when wally sees his "kryptonian" teammates getting put down by WBH's blasts, he will phase. Anyway, there are multiple people here who can solo.

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I don't know how Wally or barry will get affected by the gamma rays. Seeing it's a life and death situation and when wally sees his "kryptonian" teammates getting put down by WBH's blasts, he will phase.

Phase what?

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Any marvel hulk should solo they team. WBH very strong .

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I don't know how Wally or barry will get affected by the gamma rays. Seeing it's a life and death situation and when wally sees his "kryptonian" teammates getting put down by WBH's blasts, he will phase. Anyway, there are multiple people here who can solo.

𝑃ℎ𝑎𝑠𝑒 𝑤ℎ𝑎𝑡, 𝑒𝑥𝑎𝑐𝑡𝑙𝑦?

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A few of the team certainly solo, handful can potentially solo.

WBH is so overwanked here.

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@professorrespect: Hulk doesn't have planet busting gamma waves.

Oh right, Red-Shulk was doing all of the heavy lifting, I assume?

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Team wins, but no one is solo'ing

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Justice League slaughter stomps, spite

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@professorrespect: No, I'm not saying that. I wouldn't even say that WBH couldn't bust a planet on his own because I think he could. But it wasn't his gamma burst that busted the planet. And I don't think there is ANY proof that they could.

It was his and Betty's collision that busted the planet.

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@professorrespect: No, I'm not saying that. I wouldn't even say that WBH couldn't bust a planet on his own because I think he could. But it wasn't his gamma burst that busted the planet. And I don't think there is ANY proof that they could

Than them doing it?

It was his and Betty's collision

So it WAS Red-Shulk doing all of the work, ofc. Point stands lol

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People still failing to realize that Hulk and Betty weren't targeting the planet itself which makes the feat despite being shared all the more better.

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@takenstew22: I know they weren't targeting the planet. I'm not saying that the feat isn't impressive. I'm just saying it was their collision that caused the planet to bust and not WBH gamma waves.

I don't understand how people are saying WBH has planet busting gamma waves is my issue.

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If Hal touches larfleeze, he touches hulk more

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#86  Edited By Underfire47

This thread is filled with so many termite level dumb posts that i honestly lose any will to even debate on these forums anymore. Like apart from Captain Atom i have no idea who can solo take a majority against 4 WBH's at the same time, the gamma burst of 2 WBH level beings leveled a planet and vaporized beings that could stand up to guys like Savage Hulk, Thor and Surfer, took out the entire race of Mindless ones beings that can survive the combined attacks of all the Avengers and Defenders, mine minerals on Neutron stars without problems, the clash of 2 WBH level beings was already at planetary+ to multiplanetary, with 4 it's at least double that... Who the hell is gonna stay conscious during that without resorting to some outliers? Superman one of the most durable guys in this thread has been KO'd at least 4-5 different times from planetary level explosions/attacks in pre-52/new-52/Rebirth, this is a joke. All of this isn't even going into the effects the 4 WBH are gonna have on each other which is to perpetually keep amping one another with their gamma getting stuck in an endless amping loop, it's gonna be a endless barrage of multiplanetary gamma explosions that only keep increasing. Yea either Captain Atom pulls off some hax or Wally goes back in time somehow or Dr Fate pulls some trick out of his hat at FTL speeds cause i have no idea how anyone else is gonna even survive/stay conscious just watching 4 WBH's let alone trying to fight them.

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@professorrespect said:

@factg: Superman can deal with planet busting AoE blasts on the regular? Scans?

Second isn't planet busting. First is him being knocked out via Brainiac destroying a sun and having it destroy a planet next to it, which for obvious reasons isn't valid either.

Not only is the second one not planet busting, Superman didn't even tank it, it KO'd him right in the next page

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And yes it was magic, guess what's also retconned to be magic now?

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@underfire47:

I'm surprised people are saying Captain Atom can solo. I haven't read anything from Rebirth, but as far as Post-Crisis and New 52 goes, I do not recall him doing anything to justify him soloing.

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#88  Edited By MAZAHS117

There’s quite a few on the JLA that are useless and would be causalities, but between Superman, Jonzz, Wally, Doctor Fate, Captain Atom, Orion, Firestorm, Hal, John Stewart, and Zatanna they get the job done

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League pretty easily. WAY too many powerful members.

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@ready_4_madness said:

That JLA team is monstrous. Superman, Flash, Orion, Captain Atom, Hal, John and Martian in the same team is outrageous. And that’s barely scratching the surface.

How are any of them tanking planet busting Gamma waves, let alone four going at once? As soon as the fight starts, many will die already from the sheer force.

Respectfully, do you have a scan for said "planet busting Gamma waves?" I would be very inclined to change my opinion on the outcome of the battle in that case.

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I don't know how Wally or barry will get affected by the gamma rays. Seeing it's a life and death situation and when wally sees his "kryptonian" teammates getting put down by WBH's blasts, he will phase.

Phase what?

Himself.

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@punyaamrit said:

I don't know how Wally or barry will get affected by the gamma rays. Seeing it's a life and death situation and when wally sees his "kryptonian" teammates getting put down by WBH's blasts, he will phase. Anyway, there are multiple people here who can solo.

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Himself.

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@darksercate: Yeah I think that too. I was always confused as to whether WBH's collision or the gamma rays destroyed the planet. Tbh,I think it was the collision. Add to the fact that half of the JL here are faster than hulk, I don't see them having much problem, aside from the obvious fodders.

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I wonder if there is actually any comic book writer out there that would look at this thread and not think it absolutely ridiculous that that many DC characters could be amassed against 4 world breaker Hulks and not win?

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@professorrespect said:
@punyaamrit said:

I don't know how Wally or barry will get affected by the gamma rays. Seeing it's a life and death situation and when wally sees his "kryptonian" teammates getting put down by WBH's blasts, he will phase.

Phase what?

Himself.

That's not gonna save him from anything. He can't phase himself for eternity lol

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@fcvs111 said:

I wonder if there is actually any comic book writer out there that would look at this thread and not think it absolutely ridiculous that that many DC characters could be amassed against 4 world breaker Hulks and not win?

You mean that many DC heavy hitters. Because half the list is fodder in this match. But the other half of the list is still an obvious victory for DC.

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#98  Edited By Underfire47

@hulksmashtoaa said:

@underfire47:

I'm surprised people are saying Captain Atom can solo. I haven't read anything from Rebirth, but as far as Post-Crisis and New 52 goes, I do not recall him doing anything to justify him soloing.

TBH i am not even that familiar with him, but he did some crazy stuff in Rebirth especially against Manhattan so i just assume he could do it, since i am too lazy to argue against it.

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@ready_4_madness said:

That JLA team is monstrous. Superman, Flash, Orion, Captain Atom, Hal, John and Martian in the same team is outrageous. And that’s barely scratching the surface.

How are any of them tanking planet busting Gamma waves, let alone four going at once? As soon as the fight starts, many will die already from the sheer force.

Respectfully, do you have a scan for said "planet busting Gamma waves?" I would be very inclined to change my opinion on the outcome of the battle in that case.

You comment on the outcome of the fight and yet you don't know the most basic thing about WBH? Something that can be fixed with a simple google search? I don't wanna be an asshole but this is really silly.. Finding feats for WBH is easier than finding a picture of a giraffe on the internet.

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@darksercate: Yeah I think that too. I was always confused as to whether WBH's collision or the gamma rays destroyed the planet. Tbh,I think it was the collision. Add to the fact that half of the JL here are faster than hulk, I don't see them having much problem, aside from the obvious fodders.

The collision is what released the gamma, if you literally look at WBH and RSH at the moment when Strange stops time, they are standing in the middle punching each other and smiling, this isn't the kinda collision where 2 masses hit each other with 1 massive hit that released a shockwave, it was them just standing and punching each other over and over as the gamma waves were being released an incinerated everything around them.

People see this

And they think they are seeing something like this

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where it's just a single impact that releases a shockwave and that's it.

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@fcvs111 said:

I wonder if there is actually any comic book writer out there that would look at this thread and not think it absolutely ridiculous that that many DC characters could be amassed against 4 world breaker Hulks and not win?

Probably Greg Pak the guy that made WBH, considering he thinks even regular Hulk can beat amped Superman i wouldn't be surprised if he thinks 4 WBH's could beat all the characters here.

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@fcvs111 said:

I wonder if there is actually any comic book writer out there that would look at this thread and not think it absolutely ridiculous that that many DC characters could be amassed against 4 world breaker Hulks and not win?

Probably Greg Pak the guy that made WBH, considering he thinks even regular Hulk can beat amped Superman i wouldn't be surprised if he thinks 4 WBH's could beat all the characters here.

lmao