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Gladiator dies from a shockwave of Hulk's punch or a misdirected spell from Wanda.

WBH vs Scarlet Witch can go either way, depending on what Wanda is willing to dish out.

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They both get atomized.

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WBH

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Wanda!

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Gladiator is a non-factor, and Wanda beats WBH.

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Wanda 10/10

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#8  Edited By Cruelrain

Gladiator dies first

And Wanda warps WBH easily

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Gladiator or Scarlet as Gladiator has the means to deal with any Hulk by combat speed,his durability, punching power and his optic blast but Wanda just needs one spell to end both instantly. LOL at Hulk vaporising Gladiator or Wanda (he'd be dead long before he did anything) as both have means of getting around it due to wanda's teleporting or Gladiator naturally faster combat speed.

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1 nano second feat from more than a quarter century ago (Against a character with 0 speed feats before or since) = consistency.

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#11  Edited By green_skaar  Online

Gladiator just had a phenomenal speed feat in July. With that being said, WBH still murks.

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1 nano second feat from more than a quarter century ago (Against a character with 0 speed feats before or since) = consistency.

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Gladiator dies from a shockwave of Hulk's punch or a misdirected spell from Wanda.

WBH vs Scarlet Witch can go either way, depending on what Wanda is willing to dish out.

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Gladiator dies from a shockwave of Hulk's punch or a misdirected spell from Wanda.

WBH vs Scarlet Witch can go either way, depending on what Wanda is willing to dish out.

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1 nano second feat from more than a quarter century ago (Against a character with 0 speed feats before or since) = consistency.

Gladiator is too fast. And Gladiator's singular nano second reaction feat is more than Hulk's yeah? Keep in mind that the so called "1 nano second feat from a quarter century ago" is couched among numerous other feats by Gladiator clearly indicating he has super reaction/combat speed as part of his repertoire of super powers. How many reaction speed feats in the nano second range does Hulk have? Gladiator has tremendous durability and can dish out a fair amount of punishment himself. And no, I don't lend any weight to Gladiator's fight with Hulk from waay back. Character's with lots of super powers frequently "forget" to use their powers in favor of plot/story. In that instance, Gladiator failed to use superior reaction speed.

Add Scarlet Witch to this whole mix and this a a murder/curb stomp in favor of SW and Kallark that should be locked.

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#15  Edited By baph

Gladiator dies as soon as the fight starts, Hulk beats an in character Wanda.

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#16  Edited By Dragonspine

Can't Wanda just turn them both into nonexistent pixie dust with the same reality warping hex? (Which is probably why she dies first, because Gladiator would use his faster than light speed to take her out before she could finish her first thought.)

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@20damon said:

1 nano second feat from more than a quarter century ago (Against a character with 0 speed feats before or since) = consistency.

Gladiator is too fast. And Gladiator's singular nano second reaction feat is more than Hulk's yeah? Keep in mind that the so called "1 nano second feat from a quarter century ago" is couched among numerous other feats by Gladiator clearly indicating he has super reaction/combat speed as part of his repertoire of super powers. How many reaction speed feats in the nano second range does Hulk have? Gladiator has tremendous durability and can dish out a fair amount of punishment himself. And no, I don't lend any weight to Gladiator's fight with Hulk from waay back. Character's with lots of super powers frequently "forget" to use their powers in favor of plot/story. In that instance, Gladiator failed to use superior reaction speed.

Add Scarlet Witch to this whole mix and this a a murder/curb stomp in favor of SW and Kallark that should be locked.

Hulk has a single lightspeed combat speed feat. Which, of course, is bullshit. But there it is. Gladiator is fast. But he's nowhere near TOO fast. He's got a VERY fast bullrush which he uses consistently against many opponents. Hulk countered it. He's fastER than Hulk.... but he's nowhere NEAR fast enough to keep his bullrush pace in combat. And his bullrush doesn't do crap to Worldbreaker Hulk, who can oneshot Gladiator.

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Gladiator for sure. As stated by the scan. Perhaps single most formidable mortal he has ever faced. The hit what gladiator gave Galactus is greater than any hit Hulk ever thrown or faced or produced. If i recall the strongest and most powerful hulk was killed with a back hand from Galactus. Again Gladiator is too fast and capable of more. When he is written right . Base on speed and power i dont see how he loses this fight.

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If i recall the strongest and most powerful hulk was killed with a back hand from Galactus.

Can't wait to see your scans from that one.

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@20damon said:
@termiteone4ever said:

If i recall the strongest and most powerful hulk was killed with a back hand from Galactus.

Can't wait to see your scans from that one.

Your com padre posted a piece of the scan from the Dr. Strange comic . Go read that comic . Your strongest Hulk was killed in that comic by a backhand. With that said long story short Gladiator wins. You can check the number . It was two weeks ago. )

#11 Edited by green_skaar (12946 posts) - 2 days, 11 hours ago - Show Bio

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#21  Edited By 20damon

@termiteone4ever said:
@20damon said:
@termiteone4ever said:

If i recall the strongest and most powerful hulk was killed with a back hand from Galactus.

Can't wait to see your scans from that one.

Your com padre posted a piece of the scan from the Dr. Strange comic . Go read that comic . Your strongest Hulk was killed in that comic by a backhand. With that said long story short Gladiator wins. You can check the number . It was two weeks ago. )

#11 Edited by green_skaar (12946 posts) - 2 days, 11 hours ago - Show Bio

Wasn't aware Worldbreaker had any appearances in combat outside Heart of the Monster. But if YOU say so

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@20damon said:
@termiteone4ever said:

If i recall the strongest and most powerful hulk was killed with a back hand from Galactus.

Can't wait to see your scans from that one.

I don't think we should even take him seriously at this point.

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@20damon said:
@termiteone4ever said:

If i recall the strongest and most powerful hulk was killed with a back hand from Galactus.

Can't wait to see your scans from that one.

I don't think we should even take him seriously at this point.

Never do. Can't take anything he says seriously after his "Superman is limitless" arguments. Basically it went like "Hulk is mountain level, Superman is limitless". Obviously best source of info on Comicvine.

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@20damon said:
@termiteone4ever said:
@20damon said:
@termiteone4ever said:

If i recall the strongest and most powerful hulk was killed with a back hand from Galactus.

Can't wait to see your scans from that one.

Your com padre posted a piece of the scan from the Dr. Strange comic . Go read that comic . Your strongest Hulk was killed in that comic by a backhand. With that said long story short Gladiator wins. You can check the number . It was two weeks ago. )

#11 Edited by green_skaar (12946 posts) - 2 days, 11 hours ago - Show Bio

Wasn't aware Worldbreaker had any appearances in combat outside Heart of the Monster. But if YOU say it, it's most likely true.... oh... wait.

Thats a matter of your opinion. According to the comics. Its a different story. IM Hulk is the most powerful he cant die. Just remember WB hulk didnt fight any body but red she hulk. Even after the collision between red she hulk and WB hulk just remember they were still fight he couldn't one shot her or defeat her. So you opinion and hype is weak and that is a fact. Go read up on your Heart of the monster Hulk :) Hulk only fight was Red she hulk even after his burst he couldn't defeat her.

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@20damon said:
@takenstew22 said:
@20damon said:
@termiteone4ever said:

If i recall the strongest and most powerful hulk was killed with a back hand from Galactus.

Can't wait to see your scans from that one.

I don't think we should even take him seriously at this point.

Never do. Can't take anything he says seriously after his "Superman is limitless" arguments. Basically it went like "Hulk is mountain level, Superman is limitless". Obviously best source of info on Comicvine.

Lol. He must work for ScrewAttack.

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@20damon said:
@luciferousabyss said:
@20damon said:

1 nano second feat from more than a quarter century ago (Against a character with 0 speed feats before or since) = consistency.

Gladiator is too fast. And Gladiator's singular nano second reaction feat is more than Hulk's yeah? Keep in mind that the so called "1 nano second feat from a quarter century ago" is couched among numerous other feats by Gladiator clearly indicating he has super reaction/combat speed as part of his repertoire of super powers. How many reaction speed feats in the nano second range does Hulk have? Gladiator has tremendous durability and can dish out a fair amount of punishment himself. And no, I don't lend any weight to Gladiator's fight with Hulk from waay back. Character's with lots of super powers frequently "forget" to use their powers in favor of plot/story. In that instance, Gladiator failed to use superior reaction speed.

Add Scarlet Witch to this whole mix and this a a murder/curb stomp in favor of SW and Kallark that should be locked.

Hulk has a single lightspeed combat speed feat. Which, of course, is bullshit.

What light speed feat does Hulk have?

@20damon said:

But there it is. Gladiator is fast. But he's nowhere near TOO fast.

If Gladiator is in the nano second range, as you've clearly already admitted, then Hulk ever tagging him is a load of crappola. So yeah, Gladiator is TOO fast.

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He's got a VERY fast bullrush which he uses consistently against many opponents. Hulk countered it.

But here is where more BS comes in. If Gladiator reacts in the nano second range, which he does, then what feats does Hulk have (that don't rely on him countering someone with super speed) that place Hulk in the nano second range? Answer? None.

So, really, notwithstanding the writer telling an interesting story for the sake of the audience, Hulk should not have been able to counter anything from Gladiator.

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He's fastER than Hulk.... but he's nowhere NEAR fast enough to keep his bullrush pace in combat.

It's amazing to hear you honestly respond, that Gladiator is faster than Hulk, then come up with some crazy reason as to why his nano second reaction speed doesn't utterly eclipse anything reaction speed wise that Hulk has ever manifested. If he can blitz in combat, which you clearly indicate he can, and which many scans indicate he can, then his ability to react in a nano second will allow him to react while blitzing easily.

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And his bullrush doesn't do crap to Worldbreaker Hulk, who can oneshot Gladiator.

Worldbreaker Hulk isn't one shotting Gladiator, who himself has busted a planet with his bare hands? He was point blank when the planet exploded in his face with no ill effects.

So, to recap you said:

@20damon said:

But there it is. Gladiator is fast.

and then you said:

He's got a VERY fast bullrush which he uses consistently against many opponents.

and then:

He's fastER than Hulk....

I see. Additionally, you said this

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1 nano second feat from more than a quarter century ago (Against a character with 0 speed feats before or since) = consistency.

It doesn't matter that Hyperion had never displayed it before. It's one more than Hulk has. Again, where are Hulk's nano second reaction feats?

You admit Gladiator is faster than Hulk, then diminish it to suit your argument.

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@20damon said:
@termiteone4ever said:
@20damon said:
@termiteone4ever said:

If i recall the strongest and most powerful hulk was killed with a back hand from Galactus.

Can't wait to see your scans from that one.

Your com padre posted a piece of the scan from the Dr. Strange comic . Go read that comic . Your strongest Hulk was killed in that comic by a backhand. With that said long story short Gladiator wins. You can check the number . It was two weeks ago. )

#11 Edited by green_skaar (12946 posts) - 2 days, 11 hours ago - Show Bio

Wasn't aware Worldbreaker had any appearances in combat outside Heart of the Monster. But if YOU say so

You are not thinking straight or probably just ignoring what was stated the strongest hulk is Immortal and the most powerful. Your opinion on World breaker doesn't supersedes comics of today. Just remember that even tho thing knocked out IM hulk. You guys might be mad . Remember this also Wb Hulk couldnt knock out Red she hulk even after a gamma burst or anything :)

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Gladiator is useless this match. Wanda should be able to pull through, provided she doesn't job.

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#29  Edited By 20damon
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@20damon said:
@luciferousabyss said:
@20damon said:

1 nano second feat from more than a quarter century ago (Against a character with 0 speed feats before or since) = consistency.

Gladiator is too fast. And Gladiator's singular nano second reaction feat is more than Hulk's yeah? Keep in mind that the so called "1 nano second feat from a quarter century ago" is couched among numerous other feats by Gladiator clearly indicating he has super reaction/combat speed as part of his repertoire of super powers. How many reaction speed feats in the nano second range does Hulk have? Gladiator has tremendous durability and can dish out a fair amount of punishment himself. And no, I don't lend any weight to Gladiator's fight with Hulk from waay back. Character's with lots of super powers frequently "forget" to use their powers in favor of plot/story. In that instance, Gladiator failed to use superior reaction speed.

Add Scarlet Witch to this whole mix and this a a murder/curb stomp in favor of SW and Kallark that should be locked.

Hulk has a single lightspeed combat speed feat. Which, of course, is bullshit.

What light speed feat does Hulk have?

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Obviously noone whose opinion you should listen to takes him having lightspeed feats seriously, but there it is.

@20damon said:

But there it is. Gladiator is fast. But he's nowhere near TOO fast.

If Gladiator is in the nano second range, as you've clearly already admitted, then Hulk ever tagging him is a load of crappola. So yeah, Gladiator is TOO fast.

I'm pretty sure you're just a troll at this point, trying to put words in my mouth that i obviously never said.

@20damon said:

He's got a VERY fast bullrush which he uses consistently against many opponents. Hulk countered it.

But here is where more BS comes in. If Gladiator reacts in the nano second range, which he does, then what feats does Hulk have (that don't rely on him countering someone with super speed) that place Hulk in the nano second range? Answer? None.

So, really, notwithstanding the writer telling an interesting story for the sake of the audience, Hulk should not have been able to counter anything from Gladiator.

Neither Gladiator nor Hyperion have any other showings of nano second combat speed before or since, and this instance was 26 years ago. And to me you sound more like a butthurt fan that is salty that Gladiator got his ass handed to him by the weakest Hulk of all time.

@20damon said:

He's fastER than Hulk.... but he's nowhere NEAR fast enough to keep his bullrush pace in combat.

It's amazing to hear you honestly respond, that Gladiator is faster than Hulk, then come up with some crazy reason as to why his nano second reaction speed doesn't utterly eclipse anything reaction speed wise that Hulk has ever manifested. If he can blitz in combat, which you clearly indicate he can, and which many scans indicate he can, then his ability to react in a nano second will allow him to react while blitzing easily.

Notice you saying his nano second reaction speed feat.... not featS. If the only thing you can come up with is something more than a quarter of a century old, you KNOW you got a shit case.

@20damon said:

And his bullrush doesn't do crap to Worldbreaker Hulk, who can oneshot Gladiator.

Worldbreaker Hulk isn't one shotting Gladiator, who himself has busted a planet with his bare hands? He was point blank when the planet exploded in his face with no ill effects.

Not only would he one shot Gladiator, but CASUALLY oneshot him.

So, to recap you said:

@20damon said:

But there it is. Gladiator is fast.

and then you said:

He's got a VERY fast bullrush which he uses consistently against many opponents.

and then:

He's fastER than Hulk....

I see. Additionally, you said this

@20damon said:

1 nano second feat from more than a quarter century ago (Against a character with 0 speed feats before or since) = consistency.

It doesn't matter that Hyperion had never displayed it before. It's one more than Hulk has. Again, where are Hulk's nano second reaction feats?

Oh, so it doesn't matter that they've never displayed that sort of speed, before or since? Well, then let's use your way of thinking. Hulk is lightspeed now. Actually, WAY above FTL in reaction time. I mean, if previous or following showing don't matter because the feat is there, let's go with that. I'm good with using either, consistency or one time showings. Either way, your case is worthless.

You admit Gladiator is faster than Hulk, then diminish it to suit your argument.

Being a little faster than someone doesn't make you immune to them. But i'm sure you've no clue how speed works. In any case, once you provide some actual arguments with scans and/or context, i might respond. As it is, you're arguing only your opinion and your opinion is worthless to me. If you don't provide any evidence for your case, i won't respond.

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@20damon: Not only would he one shot Gladiator, but CASUALLY oneshot him.

While a massively amp'd Galactus couldn't, Tyrant couldn't etc, how does any Hulk one shot Gladiator when they can't perceive him in combat ? (not to mention Gladiator can dodge any gamma burst the same way he dodged Galactus photon blast) nor stand up to his optic blast that can melt Galactus skin, match Tyrant in combat, match Phoenix Cyke in combat etc, physical stats that can kill planets and punch Galactus so hard it rattles every bone in said universe from the shockwave. Right now Gladiator casually one shots Immortal Hulk and World Breaker just by his feats in Dr Strange #16 alone lololol.

Being a little faster than someone doesn't make you immune to them

Gladiator is astronomically faster than Hulk in combat and without a writer, Hulk could never be capable of reacting to any Gladiator blitz as he'd be dead instantly.

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@20damon: Not only would he one shot Gladiator, but CASUALLY oneshot him.

While a massively amp'd Galactus couldn't, Tyrant couldn't etc, how does any Hulk one shot Gladiator when they can't perceive him in combat ? (not to mention Gladiator can dodge any gamma burst the same way he dodged Galactus photon blast) nor stand up to his optic blast that can melt Galactus skin, match Tyrant in combat, match Phoenix Cyke in combat etc, physical stats that can kill planets and punch Galactus so hard it rattles every bone in said universe from the shockwave. Right now Gladiator casually one shots Immortal Hulk and World Breaker just by his feats in Dr Strange #16 alone lololol.

Being a little faster than someone doesn't make you immune to them

Gladiator is astronomically faster than Hulk in combat and without a writer, Hulk could never be capable of reacting to any Gladiator blitz as he'd be dead instantly.

Weakest Hulk of all time already beat the living shit out of him. Not only does this Hulk no sell anything Gladiator tries to throw his way, but then proceeds to casually one shot him.

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@20damon said:
@hellionvulcan said:

@20damon: Not only would he one shot Gladiator, but CASUALLY oneshot him.

While a massively amp'd Galactus couldn't, Tyrant couldn't etc, how does any Hulk one shot Gladiator when they can't perceive him in combat ? (not to mention Gladiator can dodge any gamma burst the same way he dodged Galactus photon blast) nor stand up to his optic blast that can melt Galactus skin, match Tyrant in combat, match Phoenix Cyke in combat etc, physical stats that can kill planets and punch Galactus so hard it rattles every bone in said universe from the shockwave. Right now Gladiator casually one shots Immortal Hulk and World Breaker just by his feats in Dr Strange #16 alone lololol.

Being a little faster than someone doesn't make you immune to them

Gladiator is astronomically faster than Hulk in combat and without a writer, Hulk could never be capable of reacting to any Gladiator blitz as he'd be dead instantly.

Weakest Hulk of all time already beat the living shit out of him. Not only does this Hulk no sell anything Gladiator tries to throw his way, but then proceeds to casually one shot him.

Weakest Hulk Citation needed as i don't recall the comic ever stating as such and in your head Hulk is more durable than a massively amp'd Galactus HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Immortal Hulk nor Worldbreaker couldn't even react let alone casually one shot Gladiator so going by Dr Strange #16 the difference between Immortal Hulk and Gladiator is huge and it's in favour of Gladiator.

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@hellionvulcan said:
@20damon said:
@hellionvulcan said:

@20damon: Not only would he one shot Gladiator, but CASUALLY oneshot him.

While a massively amp'd Galactus couldn't, Tyrant couldn't etc, how does any Hulk one shot Gladiator when they can't perceive him in combat ? (not to mention Gladiator can dodge any gamma burst the same way he dodged Galactus photon blast) nor stand up to his optic blast that can melt Galactus skin, match Tyrant in combat, match Phoenix Cyke in combat etc, physical stats that can kill planets and punch Galactus so hard it rattles every bone in said universe from the shockwave. Right now Gladiator casually one shots Immortal Hulk and World Breaker just by his feats in Dr Strange #16 alone lololol.

Being a little faster than someone doesn't make you immune to them

Gladiator is astronomically faster than Hulk in combat and without a writer, Hulk could never be capable of reacting to any Gladiator blitz as he'd be dead instantly.

Weakest Hulk of all time already beat the living shit out of him. Not only does this Hulk no sell anything Gladiator tries to throw his way, but then proceeds to casually one shot him.

Weakest Hulk Citation needed as i don't recall the comic ever stating as such and in your head Hulk is more durable than a massively amp'd Galactus HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Immortal Hulk nor Worldbreaker couldn't even react let alone casually one shot Gladiator so going by Dr Strange #16 the difference between Immortal Hulk and Gladiator is huge and it's in favour of Gladiator.

Well, Hulk is more durable than cannonball's forcefield. And Gladiator going all out (bottom left corner of the scan) couldn't even outspeed Colossus nor oneshot him (stalemate if i recall). Oh, and let's not forget when he got physically overpowered by Black Bolt and needed help (and Blackbolt wasn't even using his voice)

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And let's forget the gambit incident.

But yeah, i'm sure he'll be too much for the strongest Hulk of all time....

Especially since the weakest Hulk of all time did this to him

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#34  Edited By Underfire47

@20damon said:
@termiteone4ever said:
@20damon said:
@termiteone4ever said:

If i recall the strongest and most powerful hulk was killed with a back hand from Galactus.

Can't wait to see your scans from that one.

Your com padre posted a piece of the scan from the Dr. Strange comic . Go read that comic . Your strongest Hulk was killed in that comic by a backhand. With that said long story short Gladiator wins. You can check the number . It was two weeks ago. )

#11 Edited by green_skaar (12946 posts) - 2 days, 11 hours ago - Show Bio

Wasn't aware Worldbreaker had any appearances in combat outside Heart of the Monster. But if YOU say so

You are not thinking straight or probably just ignoring what was stated the strongest hulk is Immortal and the most powerful. Your opinion on World breaker doesn't supersedes comics of today. Just remember that even tho thing knocked out IM hulk. You guys might be mad . Remember this also Wb Hulk couldnt knock out Red she hulk even after a gamma burst or anything :)

Where was it stated that Immortal Hulk is the strongest and most power Hulk? Literally nowhere is this ever stated, you are just straight up lying here. The creator of Immortal Hulk himself has confirmed that WBH is more powerful than Immortal Hulk

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So stop spreading nonsense, also what does Thing knocking out Hulk have to do with anything? The same Thing that is currently being written as able to mess up Surfer and tank attacks from Galactus literally breaks his entire arm with the most powerful punch just to take out Hulk for 1 minute and that's a bad thing to some people? Damn if you consider that "bad" can't wait to see your reaction to Superman getting KO'd by Batman and WW almost dying by getting shot with regular bullets.

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@20damon: Well, Hulk is more durable than cannonball's forcefield. And Gladiator going all out (bottom left corner of the scan) couldn't even outspeed Colossus nor oneshot him (stalemate if i recall). Oh, and let's not forget when he got physically overpowered by Black Bolt and needed help (and Blackbolt wasn't even using his voice)

Cannonball's force-field is inconsistent and no Hulk is not more durable as he gets melted by acid injured by countless beings even featless ones, Funny how you bring up that Colossus moment but not the one where Colossus backed by the Phoenix force was punched once and never seen again until the end of issue to gang bash Gladiator, Gladiator entire interaction with Black Bolt was a strategic one hence why he had the Shi'ar guardsman there as the entire thing was done to minimize shi'ar causalities, oh not to mention Black Bolt and the rest of the Inhumans fled from the shi'ar during the year 2000 run of Inhumans issue 4.

And let's forget the gambit incident.

wow getting knocked off panel as it happens to many character including Hulk when Black Bolt did it to him.

But yeah, i'm sure he'll be too much for the strongest Hulk of all time....

So strong that he died during a planet breaking, if only Gladiator has shown to be able to tank that. Oh wait he has and more as Gladiator can react and outpace photons traveling at lightspeed.

Especially since the weakest Hulk of all time did this to him

Hulks telepathy and rare radiation did the work for the Hulk since it was leaking throughout the area.

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@20damon: Well, Hulk is more durable than cannonball's forcefield.

Cannonball's force-field is inconsistent and no Hulk is not more durable

Huh, interesting.

Especially since the weakest Hulk of all time did this to him

Hulks telepathy and rare radiation did the work for the Hulk since it was leaking throughout the area.

Hulk uses telepathy now? But Gladiator only escaped alive from that encounter because of a kid begging for his life. But seeing as Glads gets oneshotted here, even that won't save him.

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@hellionvulcan: Cannonball's force-field is inconsistent and no Hulk is not more durable as he gets melted by acid injured by countless beings even featless ones, Funny how you bring up that Colossus moment but not the one where Colossus backed by the Phoenix force was punched once and never seen again until the end of issue to gang bash Gladiator, Gladiator entire interaction with Black Bolt was a strategic one hence why he had the Shi'ar guardsman there as the entire thing was done to minimize shi'ar causalities, oh not to mention Black Bolt and the rest of the Inhumans fled from the shi'ar during the year 2000 run of Inhumans issue 4.

LOL, "it's inconsistent". Gotta love the excuses. Yea he is more durable to be honest. By acid specifically made to melt him, why is that a problem? Does the acid have feats of failling to melt other beings? Which countless/featless beings has he been injured by and who else have those countless/featless beings failed to injure? He got punched and nothing happened, the way you are framing it you are trying to make it seem like he got KO'd or punched far away but we never saw that, we did see him and Namor later on beating Gladiator half to death. Yes it was Gladiators "strategic choice" to get physically overpowered and almost choked out to the point of needing to scream for help, he couldn't just beat BB by himself, nah that's to "easy", he wanted to strategize about having to yell out for help, such strategy.

I love your posts the most on this site, i really, really do.

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@20damon: You should ask him to explain to you how Glads dodges an omnidirectional gamma burst and what the hell does he do to even scratch WBH considering the same Hulk smiled off planet busting punches while Gladiator with a blitz that spans multiple galaxies can't even one-shot mid-tiers like Heimdall.

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Scarlet Witch turns their skin into liquid

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@20damon: Hulk uses telepathy now? But Gladiator only escaped alive from that encounter because of a kid begging for his life. But seeing as Glads gets oneshotted here, even that won't save him.

Like Hulk gaining the ability to detect Gladiator's rare radiation weakness out of nowhere, Hulk doesn't have the damage output to oneshot current Gladiator as you can ask Beta ray and Galactus.

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@20damon: Hulk uses telepathy now? But Gladiator only escaped alive from that encounter because of a kid begging for his life. But seeing as Glads gets oneshotted here, even that won't save him.

Like Hulk gaining the ability to detect Gladiator's rare radiation weakness out of nowhere, Hulk doesn't have the damage output to oneshot current Gladiator as you can ask Beta ray and Galactus.

How do i get in contact with Beta Ray and Galactus? I want to ask them.

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@underfire47: LOL, "it's inconsistent". Gotta love the excuses.

Go look at Lady Deathstrike Cannonball moment, Inconsistent sums it up perfectly.

Yea he is more durable to be honest. By acid specifically made to melt him, why is that a problem? Does the acid have feats of failling to melt other beings?

This so called acid that some how revert's Immortal Hulk back into savage Hulk, ok.

Which countless/featless beings has he been injured by and who else have those countless/featless beings failed to injure?

The cat beings from Defenders comic not to mention even Bushwacker has blown parts of Hulk's skull off.

He got punched and nothing happened, the way you are framing it you are trying to make it seem like he got KO'd or punched far away but we never saw that, we did see him and Namor later on beating Gladiator half to death.

Zero self awareness as we don't see Throgg ko Gladiator but you assume it happened, The irony is hilarious.

Yes it was Gladiators "strategic choice" to get physically overpowered and almost choked out to the point of needing to scream for help, he couldn't just beat BB by himself, nah that's to "easy", he wanted to strategize about having to yell out for help, such strategy.

Go read the comic as it's all there.

I love your posts the most on this site, i really, really do.

Can't say the same as your comments are out of context or just lowballing.

You should ask him to explain to you how Glads dodges an omnidirectional gamma burst

The same way he dodged Galactus attack but it doesn't matter as Hulk would be dead long before it ever happened.

what the hell does he do to even scratch WBH considering the same Hulk smiled off planet busting punches while Gladiator with a blitz that spans multiple galaxies can't even one-shot mid-tiers like Heimdall.

Gladiators punches are superior to killing planets as we saw that against Galactus not to mention his optic blasts will instantly kill Hulk since harming Galactus means it'll turn Hulk into nothing.

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@20damon said:
@hellionvulcan said:

@20damon: Hulk uses telepathy now? But Gladiator only escaped alive from that encounter because of a kid begging for his life. But seeing as Glads gets oneshotted here, even that won't save him.

Like Hulk gaining the ability to detect Gladiator's rare radiation weakness out of nowhere, Hulk doesn't have the damage output to oneshot current Gladiator as you can ask Beta ray and Galactus.

How do i get in contact with Beta Ray and Galactus? I want to ask them.

The same way you and buds do it.

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#44  Edited By HellionVulcan

Scarlet Witch turns their skin into liquid

she'd wipe both from existence instantly as she's far too powerful.

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@hellionvulcan: Go look at Lady Deathstrike Cannonball moment, Inconsistent sums it up perfectly.

It's inconsistent for Lady Deathstroke and Canonball, not Hulk/Gladiator and Canonball.

This so called acid that some how revert's Immortal Hulk back into savage Hulk, ok.

See this the problem you "read" Immortal Hulk but you don't actually READ the book to enjoy the story or understand whats going on, you are just skimming through it to find any low showing you can latch onto. Let me explain. Immortal Hulk got reverted back to his Savage Hulk self when he got hit by acid which is evident by his speech

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Immortal Hulk even references it later on by telling Betty that she hurt "the big guy" referring to Savage Hulk

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because that's how Immortal Hulk calls Savage Hulk

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The cat beings from Defenders comic not to mention even Bushwacker has blown parts of Hulk's skull off.

Yes and? Those are not cat beings lol, they are demons disguised as anthropomorphic Cheetahs and one of them scratched Hulks face so? Does that demon have some kind of anti-feat of failing to scratch someone of Hulks level or lower? Bushwacker has also blown holes through Samsons with much smaller caliber weapons, so i still don't get the point you are making? Can you give me a comparison of these characters failing to do something to one character and then managing to do it to Hulk?

Zero self awareness as we don't see Throgg ko Gladiator but you assume it happened, The irony is hilarious.

So we should assume it didn't happen? Just pick and chose whichever argument suits our sensibilities the most? You think your position is any different or better?

Go read the comic as it's all there.

Nice dodging lol.

Can't say the same as your comments are out of context or just lowballing.

Sure they are lol.

The same way he dodged Galactus attack but it doesn't matter as Hulk would be dead long before it ever happened.

Galactus attack wasn't omnidirectional. Hulk can't die and he certainly can't die to an attack from Gladiator even if there are 15 of them.

Gladiators punches are superior to killing planets as we saw that against Galactus not to mention his optic blasts will instantly kill Hulk since harming Galactus means it'll turn Hulk into nothing.

LOL, Gladiators punches are far inferior to "killing planets" whatever that means. So i guess Hulks punches are far superior than all of that because a punch from Hulk put Pre-Retcon Beyonder on his ass? Your logic is amazing, i love every second of it. Yea i remember his optic blast taking a long time to kill a weakened Hulk, i have no idea how it will kill a non-weakened one that also happens to be immortal. Also Gladiators blast literally did nothing to Galactus, stop making feats out of nothing, holly hell does the lying never stop. I was joking before but you would literally take a feat of Gladiator destroying a galaxy with a punch at face value as a normal feat. You have zero credibility.

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IMO Classic Gladiator kills them all, he was the closest thing to pre-crissis superman. Any other version gets killed by hulk and wanda. as it stands Hulk wins this battle sense I have know idea what version of wanda this is.

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IMO Classic Gladiator kills them all, he was the closest thing to pre-crissis superman. Any other version gets killed by hulk and wanda. as it stands Hulk wins this battle sense I have know idea what version of wanda this is.

What did classic Gladiator do? And how is he different to current Gladiator? In his first apperance ever Gladiator got KO'd by a street tier and than shortly after got double KO'd fighting Colossus. I don't think Gladiator is as powerful as you are trying to make him out.

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@hellionvulcan:

This is some sad debating here man. You KNOW some of shit you're presenting is bullshit and you do it anyway. Just because you have such a seething hatred for a comic book character that you can't even acknowledge the good with the bad >.>

You'd actually be a decent debater if you weren't incapable of admitting anything positive for the characters you argue against. I am not joking when i say that if someone posted a battle of Worldbreaker Hulk vs Daredevil, you'd vote for Daredevil.

It also absolutely DESTROYS your credibility.

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