Wonder Woman vs Thor

I'm picking Thor, definitely after a good fight though,

People really underestimate Thor..

Another person lacking knowledge on how "slow" Thor actually is.

Thor can easily tag Quicksilver in a battle, who was proven to go Mach 5; and if what he says about outracing lightning is true(not saying it is), than that means Pietro in fact can move and react at 235,000 mph, which is about 308 times faster than sound.

Travels from Earth to Sun in a matter of moments.

Saves Rulk from a black hole, which not even light can escape. This means Thor has to be moving multiple times faster than light to have saved Rulk.

So saying Thor isn't fast enough to tag WW(which is the only thing going for her except for her H2H combat), is dumb.

@petey_is_spidey: Here we go again, another person who thinks he actually knows something. Thor didn't tag Quickilsver at all, he hit the floor, his body nor his hammer could match quicksilver speed so he took away Quicksilver platform.

This battle is not a race, what does travel speed have to do with a fight.Everybody knows Thor can travel FTL, his body however has poor reaction times. He's been blitzed by characters far slower than Wonder Woman such as Mongoose and even admitted that Wolverine of all people was faster than him.

You posted all those scans for nothing, I've seen them already and they in no fashion prove that he could react to a blitz from Wonder Woman so stop trying.

@deathmedal: your right like the time Rulk beat thor that was total PIS. or the Time GR used his hammer to hit thor PIS again. so in a way i guess you were right thor is the king of PIS but its not in his favor.

Thor wins he has been able to throw his hammer 2x the speed of light. not even Wonder Woman can dodge that. Thor is not a weakling either i dont know where everyone got that Thor wasnt even on the same level as super man (no lie some one told me that). like really im not a thor nut but thor has the reaction time to be able to hang with wonder woman and hes just as good with his hammer as she is with her sword and shield.

Technically, Hulk could replicate that feat...just saying. :)

Personally I think Thor's reflexes could be FTL, but don't think his reaction time is even hypersonic. Only the Mjolnir could tag this beautiful amazon.

wonder woman speed blitz

@ancient_0f_days: If you want my definitive statement. Thor would win this if he fought smart and well. However, in character, Thor is an idiot and WW would probably beat him. So there you go.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

He should've posted some of the recent ones, such as punching amped version of Hulk ( Nul ) into space, defeating skyfather level being Glory, hurting Galactus, stalemating Silver Surfer and his fight with Gorr.

Wonder Woman Stomps Thor

It doesn't matter if the mighty Thor can send blows 3 times more powerful than Superman on crack (Thor does have a hammer...), if he's too slow to hit this Amazon then he quickly get's knocked out.

@petey_is_spidey: Nice job, now post all the scans of Thor being speedblitz'd by Street-Levelers

Yes because all hypothetical fights should be judged by a character's lowest showings!

Lol.

Oh by that logic Wonder Woman was trading blows with Batman, BATMAN, A NORMAL HUMAN!

You mean that time they were sparring?

It's not a low showing though, he doesn't have any high end showings to combat these supposed low showings.

Thor holds back on Earth, Anyone who travels FTL is not slow, period. If he had no reaction time he'd be running into all sorts of crap in space. Thor has never had issues tagging galactic foes, you know the ones that count!

What are you talking about? Thor has tons of high reaction feats, and is extremely fast in combat. People pick out 6 feats that prove he's slow, despite 1 being PIS, 1 of him when he's depowered, 1 that isn't even him (it was Masterson), and 1 against an extremely fast speedster (who he beat).

Thor boasts of his high speed, has often been described as being as fast as the lightning he commands, a bunch showing micro-nano second reaction times, and several showing he can fight against speed blitzes... People just tend to ignore the dozens or hundreds of feats showing off how fast he is, and cling to the few poor instances (many of which are just out of context scans) as proof that he's slow.

Thor would only lose this fight because he insists on fighting like an idiot brawler. If he uses his full stats, abilities, and skills to the levels they are often showed at (when fighting truly powerful beings), he'd chew up anyone pre-cosmic and spit them out.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

"If it's on panel, it's fact". Am I right, @_cerberus_?

Thor isn't FTL himself his hammer is. His body can't react at the speed that Mjolnir can.

Yes and it's on panel that he holds back on earth. What's your point? You are trying to point out hypocrisy and only come off petty and ignorant.

Thor has also admitted that Wolverine is faster than him. I don't know what else there is to say, even his team mate such as Captain America complain that he's slow. He din't beat Quicksilver using speed he just finally managed to use his brain.

If your chasing Aquaman and realise your not fast enough and instead decide to evaporate the water does, that mean you're as fast as Aquaman, no. It just means that you used your brains and that is exactly what happened concerning him and Quicksilver. He beat Quicksilver using ingenuity, not speed.

You mean other than the fact you said there's no such thing as PIS? And lets add in the fact that you're arguing that Thor isn't slow in combat where there are dozens of battles that negate that argument, and I'm being ignorant?

Show me these feats of him not being slow in combat and reaction speed and I'll agree with you.

Holding back does not negate a speed advantage. you only hold back when you don't to hit someone too hard, not that you hold back and let them hit you repeatedly. That's not holding back that's being slow

Thor just got speed blitzed by sentry recently so id say her winning by blitz is kind of out of the question. She would have to win by other means

....That.... doesn't make much sense. I'm missing out on something.

What are you even trying to say?

@dondave: Thor is slow because he wants to fight on even ground with his opponent or some such nonsense (I'd have to dig that up). As a result, he fights like an idiot, and despite him being extremely fast (he actually is, proved on panel a dozen times over), he still manages to get hit by people well below him.

Thor has proven micro-nano second level reaction feats, can be massively hypersonic in combat, and possibly even near luminal. He's held off speed blitzes from Surfer and Gladiator (both of which are faster than Wonder Woman), and a half dozen others.

Thor would only lose this fight because he brawls like an idiot and doesn't use his potential. Any serious version of Thor is well above Wonder Woman's pay grade.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

He's not too slow to hit her, she's been constantly tagged by people slower than Thor. For example Mongul, Darkseid, Deathstroke, Clayface, Batman, Hercules, Ocean Master, Aquaman etc. And I doubt she's strong enough to quickly KO him. Thor has managed to hit Sentry, Gladiator and Silver Surfer and all of them are faster than Diana.

Then tell me how is he capable of catching Mjolnir when it returns to him at many times speed of light if he isn't fast?

He control his hammer with his mind, it's drawn to his hand, it not always moving FTL either, he's not throwing his hammer FTL willy nilly.

Thor

I think you meant Thor*.

Honestly guys, he is THOR, he can go head to head with superman, and wonder woman is no superman. If spider-man can take on wonder woman, I know Thor can.

He caught it while he wasn't in control of it several times, also he can catch fired missiles in midair, move so fast he looks like a blur. Diana has better speed feats and is probably faster, but Thor is far from slow and he will have no problems with hitting her.

I know who I meant, also next time don't think to correct me

Just because somebody can beat someone else doesnt mean much here...plus i doubt spiderman could take her, and while i do agree Thor can beat superman, i dont think he can beat wonder woman. He surpasses her in a lot of ways but where as superman doesnt have much fighting skill so to speak, she does and so h2h she will be much tougher. Also the reason i generally go with Thor over superman is that Thor does have magic, which superman is weak against, while wonder woman doesnt have that weakness.. just my belief anyway i might be wrong and if anyone who knows more would care to explain some i would be very happy, always glad to learn more xD

You should read this entire thread, and you will learn more :)

Agreed.

actually when you posted that i had just started reading it xD.. good read and it confirms my belief that WW would beat Thor do to Thor having a lot of trouble hitting her.. id say 7-8/10 for WW but i do have a quick question if someone can answer... Is WW strong enough to KO Thor in only a few hits or would it take a lot? Because i know Thor has fought some very powerful people and has tanked at least a few hits from people i thought to be stronger than WW....

This too, haha.

He has tanked blows and hits from Zeus, Odin, Galactus and even Celestials so I think she will have tough time KOing him.

So is it plausible that Thor can take hits from her and wait for an opening and hit her, or that he can grab her, or that he will eventually become somewhat used to how she fights and adapt a bit? if it is i change my mind to 6-7/10 for WW

And he's also been ragdolled by beings such as Taurus by being thrown into a Jeep, there no point in listing all his high end feats, instead of listing his basic showings

Thor.

You mean to tell me that quicksilver is fast enough to dodge a lightning bolt but not fast enough to dodge a shock wave that runs through the ground? If quicksilver is so fast as everyone tries to make him out to be, he would have had plenty of time to see Thor bring down the hammer, he could have reacted before it even struck the ground, alas he was wiped out from a ground attack that "should" be slower than a lightning attack. That makes perfect sense...

I've brought it up before in a post that I made. You CAN NOT have "poor" reactions with travelling speeds FTL, it doesn't even make sense, where do you people pull this nonsense from? You should have pretty good reaction time already when you're doing 50miles an hour just to dodge a deer, sure, some people still manage to hit it but still. What about air force pilots? You think they have to have good reactions flying faster than the speed of sound and dodging at those speeds? You have to be crazy to suggest that reaction/reflex times don't go hand in hand with travelling speed, especially speeds that are greater than the speed of light. A research report in Australia a couple of years ago actually suggested that the faster you go the faster your reaction time will be. When you increase speed they found that it stimulates and releases an endocrine in the brain which makes you perceive your surrounding more closely. They even suggested that a third of all pedestrian fatalities could have been avoided if people only drove 5km/h faster, a further tenth wouldn't even be hit at all, as the drivers would have reacted faster. Also they found and stated that perceptual tests revealed that at 50km/h limit resulted in drivers being more easily distracted and had lower response times.

That is for speeds of 50km/h to 100km/h ( 31.07 - 62.14miles per hour) !!! We're talking about going at faster than the speed of light now! The moon at apogee(most distant point from the earth) is only 252,088miles from earth, if you were to fly to the moon from earth at 2x the speed of light, you would be moving at 372,564.794 miles per second!!! That means you have way less than a second to react in order to either stop or dodge the object(moon in this case). Then we're getting to another interesting fact, physics students from the UK came out and suggested that when you're moving at the speed of light or faster, you won't see streaks of light, instead you'd only notice a blur, so in order for you to actually see the object to actively avoid it instead of flying into it at 2x the speed of light, your perception of your surroundings should be greatly enhanced as well! Which in itself might suggest that you can perceive things moving at faster than the speed of light. The faster you go the more in-tune you have to be with your surroundings and these guys are moving at massive speeds.

Don't tell me that there is no correlation between travel speed and reaction time, I'll call BS every day of the week.

Then we're coming to the mere fact that Thor can catch mjolnir which in itself can return to his hand at tremendous speeds, the fact that he can catch it is already in itself a good reaction feat. If you don't believe me, have a friend throw a hammer at your face and tell me how fast you had to react in order to avoid it, then multiply the speed that it traveled millions and tell me what you get.

I also previously mentioned a speed/reaction feat that Thor had that gets overlooked rather easily on this forum. It happened in the King Thor run when the leaders of the world decided it would be a grand idea to shoot a nuke at Asgard, I even quoted an interesting fact from the atomic watch group that showed it's a great feat! Within milliseconds of an explosion a fireball would envelope EVERYTHING within 2 miles reaching temperatures of up to 20million Fahrenheit, it also releases Thermal radiation - Large amounts of electromagnetic radiation in the visible, infrared, and ultraviolet regions of the electromagnetic spectrum that are emitted from the surface of the fireball within the first minute or less after detonation. This thermal radiation travels outward from the fireball at the speed of light, 300,000 km/sec. It's thermal radiation that causes a great deal of burn to the eyes and body. I did not notice anyone in any scan being blind or even burned which indicates that he moved fast enough to even prevent the thermal radiation from escaping the explosion. A great speed feat.

However, let's be honest here for a second. You would not take anything I have stated as proof of, well, anything. It seems that certain fans at the vine can't afford to have speed feats for Thor. That would suggest that he might actually beat people in the DC universe. That's all they can offer, so-called "speed blitzes" the auto win button of the Vine. What else can Supes do? Heat vision or freeze breath him? X-Ray him to death? Nah...he can only speedblitz and that's precisely why no one on here would admit that Thor has speed feats.

You'd even go so far as to use a scan with consecutive hyphens in it to proof your point < Refer to the image of Thor vs Wolverine in which he apparently(According to you guys) admits that he is slower than Wolverine, even though the consecutive hyphens can clearly be seen in the bubble, which indicates a broken/unfinished thought, something that they've used in comics for a long time now. Instead you ignore those things and just stick with "Well he admitted it, he's slower than wolverine and wolverine is billions of times slower than wonder woman that can speedblitz Thor at 12.5trilllion times the speed of light, only the flash can go faster because well he can go 13 TRILLION TIMES THE SPEED OF LIGHT"....

Please...

Quicksilver not being able to avoid the attack on the ground is his business it has nothing to do with with Thor speed.

Thor isn't FTL himself, his hammer is that's why his body isn't as fast as his hammer. Why are you mentioning feats of King Thor, he's not being used here?

Thor control his hammer with his mind, it's drawn to his hand.

wow....like I said, fanboys will fanboy

lol There is NO WAY on earth that you'd ever beat the Taskmaster!!! You're too predictable, I actually wanted to type in there "Now I'm waiting for the idiot that says mjolnir does it" but figured if I type it in there nobody would actually come out and say it there by showing that they are the idiot, but alas...

Quicksilver is a fan instance...depending on the fan you can have 2 outcomes there. If you're a Quicksilver fan, it's a low ball, Quicksilver should have dodge a ground attack that comes from a guy like Thor that swings his hammer at 0.0000001 mile per hour. If you're a Thor fan you might even look at it another way... There is nothing there that suggests that Thor did NOT move and strike the ground faster than Quicksilver could react or perceive him. Of course you already made up your mind as to which one it is, but who died and made you God so that your word is absolute truth?

Are you suggesting that Mjolnir is a sentient self thinking entity that can travel at faster than the speed of light and make directional changes and dodge decisions on his own?

Thor controls his hammer with his mind? Ok so now the hammer is travelling at insane speeds(Silver Surfer tried to catch up but failed) breaking a space barrier to reach the hand of Thor and Thor controlled it with his mind to catch the hammer...Did Thor see this hammer? Can Thor see things moving at obviously faster than the speed of light? Hm...

But no wait...Mjolnir can think for itself it seems, so maybe just maybe it flies all the way to Thor's hand and within fractions of a second it decides to stop just right for Thor to close his fists around it just slow enough for the hammer to not fall to the ground. Yeah...that makes better sense if you're a Dave.

a Dave - Hammers can think for itself; Consecutive Hyphens indicate proof of statement and NOT broken/unfinished thought; Travelling faster than the speed of light does not make you faster than the speed of light.

@petey_is_spidey: Thankfully, @dondave has already dealt with your claim. You should check out a thread on here called Thor Runs the Combat Speed Gauntlet which demonstrates how slow Thor is and saying that he beats superfast powerhouses who are roughly as strong as he is would be the incorrect view.