Wonder Woman vs Pre-Core Breach Hulk

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Rules

  • Standard Post-Crisis/New52/Rebirth Wonder Woman and 616 Pre-Core Breach Hulk
  • Composite Standard Gear
  • Starting Distance is 10 ft
  • Win by Death/KO/Incap
  • Morals Off

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I'd side with Hulk for a majority.

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If Diana is bloodlusted, I think she can take this by abusing her speed and gear advantages.

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Doesn't matter which Hulk. He cannot win. She is too fast too strong. She does more damage than he can heal. Her weapons can affect his healing. I can see hulk having a trauma and reverting back to Banner. Diana for the stomp. Beheading is just too much.

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This thread gave me a Comic Vine equivalent of a Vietnam flashback to the WBH thread.

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Diana because of speed and gear.

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Diana, handily

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An atom splitting sword isn't doing much, sure, it can severely damage Hulk but he had healed from worse. Also he's pain tolerance, strength, and durability is vastly superior to that of WW's.

Hulk wins.

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#12  Edited By Lvenger

Honestly I side with Hulk now even if it is Pre Core Breach. He's still significantly stronger than Diana and has healed from greater damage than her atom cutting sword. Maybe Diana's lasso soul ability might be able to calm Hulk down but he has resisted similar mental powers used against him. The point is I don't think Diana can speed blitz Hulk to defeat like Clark could.

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Hulk defeated Gladiator so Hulk wins.

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Could go either way.

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Hulk defeated Gladiator so Hulk wins.

Wonder woman would stomp gladiator...

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Hulk still.

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Wonder Woman still.

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@kalkent: that's been argued before and Diana lost in quite a few threads.....so that's not a guarantee

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#24  Edited By Simon_the_digger

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@brucerogers: I just saw this is morals off. How long do you think Decapitation will put down Hulk for. 10 seconds should count as a victory for Diana as per standard rules. I doubt Diana could BFR Hulk though. Her travel speed is pretty weak compared to Superman.

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@brucerogers: I just saw this is morals off. How long do you think Decapitation will put down Hulk for. 10 seconds should count as a victory for Diana as per standard rules. I doubt Diana could BFR Hulk though. Her travel speed is pretty weak compared to Superman.

I don't think decapitation would even work in the first place.

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Hulk takes it.

Lol at Diana beating every version of Hulk.

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@agent41: depends on versions and most people in your book must be different then mine. About 50/50 on GameSpot before merge with vine, Reddit, comicboards, CBR, electric ferret...just to name a few. So, yeah....

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#31  Edited By Itachus17

Standard Post-Crisis/New52/Rebirth Wonder Woman and 616 Pre-Core Breach Hulk

  • Composite Standard Gear
  • Starting Distance is 10 ft
  • Win by Death/KO/Incap
  • Morals Off

Sigh i love how WW gets downplayed in virtually each second thread...

WW without much trouble, pre-core breach Hulk isn't even that impressive at all.

@kevd4wg What do you specifically mean with composite standard gear(morphing disk and the likes)?

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@brucerogers: I just saw this is morals off. How long do you think Decapitation will put down Hulk for. 10 seconds should count as a victory for Diana as per standard rules. I doubt Diana could BFR Hulk though. Her travel speed is pretty weak compared to Superman.

In which twilight zone would anyone need remotely Superman's travel speed just for freaking Hulk? And what the hell should stop morals off WW to literally attack Hulk's soul, spam aegis lightning, blitz the shit out of Hulk with sword and tiara, etc...

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@itachus17: I think she can win. Depends on how you argue it. I just think It wont be as easy for Wonder Woman to BFR plus she rarely uses it? There are other arguments that can be made using her gear though.

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@empressofdread:

I think she can win. Depends on how you argue it. I just think It wont be as easy for Wonder Woman to BFR plus she rarely uses it? There are other arguments that can be made using her gear though.

She rarely uses it is a pretty bad argument for morals off WW and still don't explains any connection to Superman's travel speed. And that we are as far with WW downplaying that it became somehow questionable if a morals off PC/New52/Rebirth WW with composite standard gear can beat even just pre-core Hulk is rly a pretty bad joke.

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@itachus17:

She rarely uses it is a pretty bad argument for morals off WW and still don't explains any connection to Superman's travel speed

Morals off don't mean she will do OOC Stuff. She will be willing to kill and use her sword. Superman has continuously bullrush OP opponents like Darkseid to the Sun. And used BFR more times and has better travel speed. The connection is because Superman can BFR Hulk I doubt Wonder Woman can do it.

I think Wonder Woman can win. Nore sure thats why I said I need feats for Hulk resisting atom cutting sword.

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@agent41: I wasn't just talking about using speed. Diana does user her speed. But will that be enough to BFR Hulk?

And her speeblitzing feat from Body-Doubles #4 is overused. Its the only one that I recall where she speedblitzes Superman style, even though artist did not draw it properly.

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Wonder Woman should win. Hulk has no answer to her speed.

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#39  Edited By Itachus17

@empressofdread said:

@itachus17:

She rarely uses it is a pretty bad argument for morals off WW and still don't explains any connection to Superman's travel speed

Morals off don't mean she will do OOC Stuff. She will be willing to kill and use her sword. Superman has continuously bullrush OP opponents like Darkseid to the Sun. And used BFR more times and has better travel speed. The connection is because Superman can BFR Hulk I doubt Wonder Woman can do it.

I think Wonder Woman can win. Nore sure thats why I said I need feats for Hulk resisting atom cutting sword.

Morals off means exactly that she will do out of character stuff to a degree, also is Superman still an illogical comparison. First he has no connection to Hulk at all, second Superman had far more appearances than WW and you would need to truly calculate that and take into account how much they both are willing to use their speed on average and third WW performed blitzes like that quite a few times in PC/New52/Rebirth.

WW don't even needs the New52 sword and this is still just pre-core Hulk.

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#40  Edited By thebuckaronatr

Diana and it is not even close with that iteration of Banner.

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@itachus17: I know Wonder Woman is faster than Hulk that is common knowledge. But she very rarely BFRs someone. I have no problem with Wonder Woman winning. I did ask BruceRogers for some feats. I am not debating in favor of Hulk. So arguing with me is wasting your time.

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People should know by now Speed is not the deciding factor of every fight in fiction.

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Wonder Woman takes it handily.

@lvenger said:

Honestly I side with Hulk now even if it is Pre Core Breach. He's still significantly stronger than Diana and has healed from greater damage than her atom cutting sword. Maybe Diana's lasso soul ability might be able to calm Hulk down but he has resisted similar mental powers used against him.

Does that mean he beats Hal Jordan and Wally West too and since when is soul manipulation a mental power?

The point is I don't think Diana can speed blitz Hulk to defeat like Clark could.

What has Clark to do with this fight and what should stop Diana?

@brucerogers: I just saw this is morals off. How long do you think Decapitation will put down Hulk for. 10 seconds should count as a victory for Diana as per standard rules. I doubt Diana could BFR Hulk though. Her travel speed is pretty weak compared to Superman.

Again what has Clark to do with this fight and what should stop Diana to BFR Hulk?

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@itachus17: by composite standard gear I just mean all of a characters standard gear. So something they used for like a run or more at standard levels would apply

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@itachus17: I know Wonder Woman is faster than Hulk that is common knowledge. But she very rarely BFRs someone. I have no problem with Wonder Woman winning. I did ask BruceRogers for some feats. I am not debating in favor of Hulk. So arguing with me is wasting your time.

Superman also pretty rarely bfrs someone in comparison to all his fights and you used him as argument in favour of Hulk. I don't think it is ever a waste of time to argue with somone who isn't a troll, i just find the idea that characters need freaking Superman's travel speed just to blitz/bfr pre-core Hulk pretty absurd.

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@itachus17: Travel speed is pretty helpful in doing BFR.

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@kevd4wg said:

@itachus17: by composite standard gear I just mean all of a characters standard gear. So something they used for like a run or more at standard levels would apply

Well then has WW her morphing disk for sure and this becomes even easier.

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@wrathofthebrad:

Again what has Clark to do with this fight

Because someone brought up speedblitzing as an argument for Superman winning same not working for Diana.

and what should stop Diana to BFR Hulk.

travel speed is always helps in BFR

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@itachus17: Travel speed is pretty helpful in doing BFR.

And WW has luckily far better travel speed than pre-core Hulk.

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@itachus17: Then I'm changing towards Wonder Woman. What do you think about Diana's sword, Will it work or not?