Current versions of each character
Both at full power
Wonder Woman, too fast, she can prolong the fight as long as she wants and once she figures out that force wont stop him, she'll lasso him and ask him how to beat him, then she removes his helmet and she takes off her gauntlets, its over.
Wonder Woman, too fast,
Based on what?
she removes his helmet
And what makes you think Juggernaut is going to let Wonder Woman do that?
If she tries to lasso him, he will grab the rope, drag her in and hammer her face in. Cain may not be the smartest guy around, but he had enough sense to grab the strap at the base of Mjolnir on its way back to Thor and let it carry him to Thor so he could smash'im.
Never give Cain forward momentum unless you're getting out of his way. Physically, he could contend with WWH. And if this is still Cain with Serpent power up, Diana is even more screwed. Because now he has a hammer. And the hammer is unstoppable too.
If she tries to lasso him, he will grab the rope, drag her in and hammer her face in. Cain may not be the smartest guy around, but he had enough sense to grab the strap at the base of Mjolnir on its way back to Thor and let it carry him to Thor so he could smash'im.
Never give Cain forward momentum unless you're getting out of his way. Physically, he could contend with WWH. And if this is still Cain with Serpent power up, Diana is even more screwed. Because now he has a hammer. And the hammer is unstoppable too.
The OP said current incarnations. Also WW is far faster than Thor. Not to say that Cain is incapable of what you suggest, but I find it more likely that WW would rope him than Cain would counter her.
Diana ain't faster than Thor. Much as people want to believe otherwise, Thor is FTL. Ultimately she can't hurt him, and it wouldn't matter if she hits him at lightspeed if he's already got foreward momentum, she wouldn't be able to stop him from moving. And if he has his forcefield up, whatever minute chance she had goes right out the window.
Also, taking off Cain's helmet doesn't mean anything less you're a good enough telepath to mentally assault him. Last I checked, Diana ain't no telepath.
Diana ain't faster than Thor. Much as people want to believe otherwise, Thor is FTL. Ultimately she can't hurt him, and it wouldn't matter if she hits him at lightspeed if he's already got foreward momentum, she wouldn't be able to stop him from moving. And if he has his forcefield up, whatever minute chance she had goes right out the window.
Also, taking off Cain's helmet doesn't mean anything less you're a good enough telepath to mentally assault him. Last I checked, Diana ain't no telepath.
When has Thor ever traveled FTL under his own power?
WW easily Cain isn't going to hit her and for those saying that he could just pull her in New 52 WW may be new but she's still stronger then Cain. She grabs him and BFR's him into sun. And in case you're saying "hmmm and you think Cain is going to let her do that," well just don't because he's not reacting to lightspeed
Wonder Woman could take a win eventually. Her superior combat prowess, agility, speed, intelligence, and versatility from her various weaponry should seal the victory. Juggernaut would prolong the fight with his savage strength and durability, but that will go so far when Diana can hold her own against the likes of Superman.
I think Wonder Woman could defeat Juggernaut. It would take a good deal of time and a serious strategy on her part though.
When has Thor ever traveled FTL under his own power?
Constantly. He doesn't need to "throw" Mjolnir to fly anymore. It's just a habbit. Thor and Bill have the same power set, except Thor is marginally stronger. And Bill FTL's through space and killed Stardust, a Herald of Galactus.
When has Thor ever traveled FTL under his own power?
Constantly. He doesn't need to "throw" Mjolnir to fly anymore. It's just a habbit. Thor and Bill have the same power set, except Thor is marginally stronger. And Bill FTL's through space and killed Stardust, a Herald of Galactus.
I'd like scans please of Thor going FTL under his own power.
Wonder Woman, once Juggernaut gets tied in the lasso it's all over.
Easy BFR, or rips off his helmet.
@reikai: Not sure if it's a glitch of the site or just a bad scan, but it's too small to read. Even with that said I see Thor with his hammer, which he's used in the past before to travel FTL. I asked for a scan of Thor under his own power.
Mjolnir is standard equipment. Also was just given to him to help him control his own powers, since he'd cause global thunder storms in his sleep. Thor doesn't change much from Silver Age onward. Just better writing and doesn't need Mjolnir in hand to keep from turning into Donald Blake. That part is gone.
Has been shown he doesn't needm Mjolnir to fly in earlier comics.
Wonder Woman, too fast,
Based on what?
she removes his helmet
And what makes you think Juggernaut is going to let Wonder Woman do that?
Whats he gonna do about it? Grab her? She's too fast based on this...
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And once she has the lasso around him and makes him tell her how to beat him (by taking the helmet off) then she can blitz it off his head and pound his face in.
@reikai: I remember an issue where Thor used his hammer to go IIRC three times the speed of light in space, which is something I've never seen him do without the use of his hammer. Unless there are scans of Thor doing something like that without his hammer than it stands to reason that he once again used the hammer to accomplish the feat. That proves my point that Thor isn't faster than Diana under his own power.
You do realize that removing the helmet doesn't mean a damn thing unless you're a Telepath, right? Removing the helmet doesn't make Cain less powerful or weaker. It just removes the shield he has against mindrape. Seeing as Diana has no psychic powers whatsoever, your entire argument is moot.
@ancient_0f_days: She can't take it off his head if there is a forcefield around his body that prevents that, and him from being physically harmed.
Juggs may not be able to touch Diana, but Diana can't hurt Juggs, so her only option is to BFR him, otherwise it's a stalemate since neither of them can tire.
@reikai: not really, I've seen instances where Cain's head was exposed and he was vulnerable there. So, yeah. Even if that doesn't work, she can just lasso him from head to toe, he's not going anywhere.
@xxxddd: so, Hulk wasn't able to knock his helmet off twice? Or was his force field not on, lol......anyway, it doesn't matter, Wonder Woman wins by incapacitation, lasso him from head to toe
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