VS
In character.
Random encounter.
Round 1: Diana has her lasso, sword, and shield.
Round 2: Diana has the armor of Asteria.
Who wins?
VS
In character.
Random encounter.
Round 1: Diana has her lasso, sword, and shield.
Round 2: Diana has the armor of Asteria.
Who wins?
Hawkman low-diffs both rounds.
Round 1 he just beats her ass in a damn near mismatch.
The Armor is plain useless in round 2.
This is what Cheetah, someone who's fodder in comparison to Hawkman, could do to Armored Diana with a tackle:
The wings, which are clearly made form the same material as the rest of the armor, were getting torn apart, with the metal even getting bent by Cheetah strength:
One or two hits from Hawkman's superior Nth metal, and it's a GG.
Diana is above Hawkman across the board. All though its fairly close and a good fight in the end Diana all day
Depends on the version of Wonder Woman we are working with
Wonder Woman from BvS beats Hawk without breaking a sweat
Slightly Less Wonderful Woman from JL beats Hawk mid diff
Mid Woman from her solo ventures gets fodderized
@comicvinepoozer1: definitely not via speed, cuz hawkman kept up with BA, someone faster than Diana.
Diana takes this cuz she has the better gear and more skilled.
Btw that armour in r2 had shit tier feats unfortunately.
@uchihaghost: When Black Adam wanted to he could casually blitz Hawkman. And Wonder Woman isn't much slower than Black Adam if at all.
Diana in a good fight
This.
Btw that armour in r2 had shit tier feats unfortunately.
I don't want to be like anyone anymore. I want to be number one. An apex predator, like nothing there's ever been before.
Wonder Woman 1984
If we go by Barbara's words, the armor's ability to withstand her strikes (if only briefly) is actually very impressive.
Uhm…Diana STOMPS HAWKMAN WITH LOW-MID DIFF. She is literally a Demi goddess and that armour is torn by cheetah only because if you are forgetting, cheetah is bloodlusted and her claws can cut through a mint bracelet wave meaning her claws her extremely sharp. Sje could even cut through GODDAMN SUPERMAN. So yes cheetah is not fodder. Second, Wonder Woman is WAY more skilled and trained them him and her strength is superior. Even her speed, reflexes, stamina, agility and durability is more then him. She is the most skilled melee fighter in dc and her lasso is just too much for hawkman. The Shield is just making sure she MURDERSTOMPS him without a single scratch. Diana FTW
Patty and Snyder clearly have differing opinions about Diana's power level so it makes it difficult to scale her tbh
@uchihaghost: BA had better speed feats than Diana yes, he didn't however use thos speed when HM "kept up with him". Carters best speed reaction was putting up a Nth shield to BA's lightning. The thing is
1. BA fired lightning a Fate first so sort ot telegraphed the attack in advance.
2. It seems Nth metal is like itn s in the NU52 and shapes to the users will. Nth changing happens at the speed of thought.
Speed isnt something HM has going for him. His damage soak due to indestructible Nth, healing factor Nth etc is.
I think Carter cN last a hellnof a long time. I'd give the winnto Diana because I don't see him putting her down so eventually she will.
@americanspeeddemon: i see no reason why he didn't blitz him then considering he was tryna put hawkman down.
@uchihaghost: PIS or CIS
This would be a vicious (and cool) Spartacus-like melee fight. I think Diana gets the hard-fought win with greater speed, skill, and experience.
Uhm…Diana STOMPS HAWKMAN WITH LOW-MID DIFF. She is literally a Demi goddess and that armour is torn by cheetah only because if you are forgetting, cheetah is bloodlusted and her claws can cut through a mint bracelet wave meaning her claws her extremely sharp. Sje could even cut through GODDAMN SUPERMAN. So yes cheetah is not fodder. Second, Wonder Woman is WAY more skilled and trained them him and her strength is superior. Even her speed, reflexes, stamina, agility and durability is more then him. She is the most skilled melee fighter in dc and her lasso is just too much for hawkman. The Shield is just making sure she MURDERSTOMPS him without a single scratch. Diana FTW
Steppenwolf’s axe couldn’t cut Superman, but Cheetah’s claws can? LOL
Depends on the version of Wonder Woman we are working with
Wonder Woman from BvS beats Hawk without breaking a sweat
Slightly Less Wonderful Woman from JL beats Hawk mid diff
Mid Woman from her solo ventures gets fodderized
This
@sportjames23: first, she was blessed and second her claws were dipped in kryptonite
Lets not talk without research next time
@americanspeeddemon: nothing like PIS or CIS, he held his own, PIS is when hawkman has low showings implying he is not as strong, and nothing indicates that
@uchihaghost: The movie always indicates when Black Adam is using his super speed when he fought Hawkman he was not using it. This is further confirmed by him casually blitzing Hawkman later. If you want to say he was using his full speed you'll need to prove it.
@americanspeeddemon: hawkman reacted to lightning, clearly he has high perception and reaction to react to that speed.
Now prove hawkman is not fast enough to keep up.
@uchihaghost: Black Adam's lightning was shown on screen to be comparable to bullets in speed. I can grant him low bullet timing.
Hawkman low-diffs both rounds.
Round 1 he just beats her ass in a damn near mismatch.
The Armor is plain useless in round 2.
This is what Cheetah, someone who's fodder in comparison to Hawkman, could do to Armored Diana with a tackle:
The wings, which are clearly made form the same material as the rest of the armor, were getting torn apart, with the metal even getting bent by Cheetah strength:
One or two hits from Hawkman's superior Nth metal, and it's a GG.
She doesn't need armor to beat him. By feats she is stronger, faster and more skilled than hawkman. Fighting black adam is hardly a feat for hawkman. When it was clearly shown that a serious black adam could easily overpower him and destroy him.
And the fight with Cheetah proves nothing. Diana was holding back the whole time and still easily overpowered her. Which only proves that Cheetah was nowhere near her in stats.
The Diana fight proves how fodder that armor is. Which is my main point. Her holding back doesn't make the armor weaker. And her performance in WW84 is her most pathetic yet.
And by feats, he is stronger. Wonder Woman is inconsistent as shit. That is a pretty well-known fact at this point on CV. Her performance & stats vary from movie to movie.
Meanwhile, Hawkman could take hits from Adam & Sabbac. And could send Adam, a Superman level individual, flying with his Nth metal hits.
Diana hasn't shown anything near that striking power. And would die from it. Her only win condition is her sword. And good luck landing that when the guy is more than fast enough to blitz in-character. And is far faster via feats, when compared to Diana who is consistently Supersonic.
Hawkman stomps.
Hawkman stomps.
Only in his dreams.
a non series black bolt >>> Fodder woman at full power
highballing is you
Diana at the time of her first appearance I’d be heavily siding with her but she’s been downgraded consistently since and is currently all over the place while Hawkman could put up some semblance of a fight vs a Superman level opponent
Depends on the version of Wonder Woman we are working with
Wonder Woman from BvS beats Hawk without breaking a sweat
Slightly Less Wonderful Woman from JL beats Hawk mid diff
Mid Woman from her solo ventures gets fodderized
Wonder woman has practically zero good feats. I'll never understand why people act like she's anything more than fodder.
@achillesspawn: Bad take. In what realm does she not have good feats? Cutting DD’s arm off?? Stopping his punch? Defeating Ares? The Museum scene (especially the Snyder cut)? How is she fodder? The most you could argue is mid tier
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