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#1 Edited by tethadam (242 posts) - - Show Bio

Speed Equalized

Black Panther has on his Kinetic suit.

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#2 Posted by stumerica (166 posts) - - Show Bio

Panther's been staggered by kicks from Steve, Diana's certainly going to hurt him

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#3 Posted by BOC (1316 posts) - - Show Bio

If wonder woman gets her gear I would say she takes it, if not then I give it to Black panther.

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#4 Posted by agent41 (15575 posts) - - Show Bio

@boc said:

If wonder woman gets her gear I would say she takes it, if not then I give it to Black panther.

Why would she need her sword and shield? She still has the strength to affect him.

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#5 Posted by deactivated-5c96cd4b0edfe (80 posts) - - Show Bio

Panther wins. His kenetic suit would tank everything she threw at him. The only thing she could use is her sword, which he'll just knock away.

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#6 Edited by agent41 (15575 posts) - - Show Bio

@fat_tony_stark said:

Panther wins. His kenetic suit would tank everything she threw at him. The only thing she could use is her sword, which he'll just knock away.

Captain America and a Rhino have been able to affect black panther. Wonder Woman's strength is way above that.

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#7 Posted by BOC (1316 posts) - - Show Bio

@agent41: You got a point. I didn't look at it that way. I was just thinking of the fact that his claws could cut her, but she is better at h2h so that might negate it.

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#8 Edited by Gotoucanario (2958 posts) - - Show Bio

Wonder Woman snaps him like a twig.

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#9 Posted by Nucleon (3212 posts) - - Show Bio

No need to equalize speeds; The Panther doesn't get WW's occasional bursts of combat speed, but he does have the consistent reflexes to react to it.

Like every fight this Panther's in, the edges are more than skin deep: IMO, their respective attributes are not that far apart, especially in terms of speed, skill and agility; Their striking power can be compared also, with either sword or claws, but where there's a solid difference is in the hability to take damage, piercing, physical damage in both cases: Panther can resist, and even benefit from a few strikes, while WW's whole defense lay in reactive moves, like blocking or forming the Aegis. And once he passes these (and he will), WW is hurt, probably bleeding.

Panther 6/10, speed equilzed making no difference.

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@nucleon said:

No need to equalize speeds; The Panther doesn't get WW's occasional bursts of combat speed, but he does have the consistent reflexes to react to it.

Like every fight this Panther's in, the edges are more than skin deep: IMO, their respective attributes are not that far apart, especially in terms of speed, skill and agility; Their striking power can be compared also, with either sword or claws, but where there's a solid difference is in the hability to take damage, piercing, physical damage in both cases: Panther can resist, and even benefit from a few strikes, while WW's whole defense lay in reactive moves, like blocking or forming the Aegis. And once he passes these (and he will), WW is hurt, probably bleeding.

Panther 6/10, speed equilzed making no difference.

black panther is not more durable than Wonder Woman overall. And his strength is nowhere near her level.

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#12 Posted by ANTHP2000 (26956 posts) - - Show Bio

SYSTEM OVERLOAD

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#13 Posted by ThunderPrince (6968 posts) - - Show Bio

Black Panther stomps.

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#14 Posted by Aka_aka_aka_ak (2958 posts) - - Show Bio

Mismatch. Why has anyone said BP? WW flicks him and breaks every bone in his body

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#17 Posted by somayareece (862 posts) - - Show Bio

This is so dumb. Speed is the least of his worries. She can send him flying with a punch.

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#19 Posted by agent41 (15575 posts) - - Show Bio

Black Panther stomps.

Based on what? She far outclasses him in strength.

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#20 Edited by Nucleon (3212 posts) - - Show Bio

@agent41 said:
@thunderprince said:

Black Panther stomps.

Based on what? She far outclasses him in strength.

Not so sure about that. That version of Panther's relatively strong, while this WW is relatively weak.

Maybe a little. But far from what's being necessary to rag doll Panther.

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#21 Posted by Tedirey (2643 posts) - - Show Bio

Diana finger flicks

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#22 Posted by agent41 (15575 posts) - - Show Bio

@nucleon said:
@agent41 said:
@thunderprince said:

Black Panther stomps.

Based on what? She far outclasses him in strength.

Not so sure about that. That version of Panther's relatively strong, while this WW is relatively weak.

Maybe a little. But far from what's being necessary to rag doll Panther.

She is more than strong enough to rag doll him.

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#23 Posted by ganon15 (7097 posts) - - Show Bio

Still Diana

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#24 Posted by Omnipotent94 (748 posts) - - Show Bio

Diana easily.

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#25 Posted by BOC (1316 posts) - - Show Bio

@nucleon:

Not so sure about that. That version of Panther's relatively strong, while this WW is relatively weak.

Maybe a little. But far from what's being necessary to rag doll Panther.

I don't know about that. WW hasn't necessarily been shown as weak, she's just doesn't have the screen time yet for us to see many impressive feats. She lifted a tank rather easily. The only thing she struggled to do is restrain DD, but doing so at all is impressive. Black Panther has yet to show strength on this level.

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#26 Posted by PrimaInterPares (109 posts) - - Show Bio

Diana is still a heck of a lot stronger than him.

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#27 Posted by Nucleon (3212 posts) - - Show Bio

@boc: I don't know about that. WW hasn't necessarily been shown as weak, she's just doesn't have the screen time yet for us to see many impressive feats. She lifted a tank rather easily. The only thing she struggled to do is restrain DD, but doing so at all is impressive. Black Panther has yet to show strength on this level.

Somebody else did the calcs, and concluded that tearing out the door of an armored vehicule, while not as spectacular, takes no less strength than lifting a 30t, WWI tank.

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#28 Posted by Itachus17 (3397 posts) - - Show Bio

WW still lolstomps, nuff said.

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#29 Posted by IPvMan (866 posts) - - Show Bio

Wonder Woman one shots.

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#30 Posted by cromulor (2227 posts) - - Show Bio

@boc: That tank Wonder Woman lifted was a WW1 tank. Rhodey has feats canon to the MCU of lifting modern tanks (and flying them up into the air) that are way heavier than that. Can’t really scale T’Challa off of Rhodey though.

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#31 Posted by Dabalya (189 posts) - - Show Bio

It is a spite.Wonder Woman stomps

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@nucleon said:

@boc: I don't know about that. WW hasn't necessarily been shown as weak, she's just doesn't have the screen time yet for us to see many impressive feats. She lifted a tank rather easily. The only thing she struggled to do is restrain DD, but doing so at all is impressive. Black Panther has yet to show strength on this level.

Somebody else did the calcs, and concluded that tearing out the door of an armored vehicule, while not as spectacular, takes no less strength than lifting a 30t, WWI tank.

WW still outclasses him in strength.

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#33 Posted by ThunderPrince (6968 posts) - - Show Bio

@agent41 said:
@nucleon said:
@agent41 said:
@thunderprince said:

Black Panther stomps.

Based on what? She far outclasses him in strength.

Not so sure about that. That version of Panther's relatively strong, while this WW is relatively weak.

Maybe a little. But far from what's being necessary to rag doll Panther.

She is more than strong enough to rag doll him.

She would have to tag him first. BP is far too skilled to allow that to happen.

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#34 Posted by agent41 (15575 posts) - - Show Bio

@agent41 said:
@nucleon said:
@agent41 said:
@thunderprince said:

Black Panther stomps.

Based on what? She far outclasses him in strength.

Not so sure about that. That version of Panther's relatively strong, while this WW is relatively weak.

Maybe a little. But far from what's being necessary to rag doll Panther.

She is more than strong enough to rag doll him.

She would have to tag him first. BP is far too skilled to allow that to happen.

Based on feats. He isn't

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#35 Edited by Psy-Scarlett (10 posts) - - Show Bio

Diana Prince

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#36 Posted by oblivion360 (1011 posts) - - Show Bio

what skill feats does wonder woman have that puts her above BP?

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#37 Edited by plotweapon16255 (7730 posts) - - Show Bio

smiling for doomday's punch >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> overloaded by a grenade.

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#38 Posted by Saxz (166 posts) - - Show Bio

Wonder woman in a good fight

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#39 Posted by BOC (1316 posts) - - Show Bio

@nucleon said:

@boc: I don't know about that. WW hasn't necessarily been shown as weak, she's just doesn't have the screen time yet for us to see many impressive feats. She lifted a tank rather easily. The only thing she struggled to do is restrain DD, but doing so at all is impressive. Black Panther has yet to show strength on this level.

Somebody else did the calcs, and concluded that tearing out the door of an armored vehicule, while not as spectacular, takes no less strength than lifting a 30t, WWI tank.

Where are these calcs, because they don't make sense. BP has never shown that kind of strength against anyone else, like his brief fight with Cap. If this were true than BP would hilariously out stat Cap in strength. WW on the other hand has shown consistency with this strength. Such as restraining DD for some time, Stopping DD's punch, and headbutting a bracing Superman.

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@boc: That tank Wonder Woman lifted was a WW1 tank. Rhodey has feats canon to the MCU of lifting modern tanks (and flying them up into the air) that are way heavier than that. Can’t really scale T’Challa off of Rhodey though.

I've seen them. Either it's an outlier, or he used multiple jets (which would put his lifting way above his striking). The latter is more probable. I say this because he never demonstrates that kind of strength when he fights.

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ww

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#42 Posted by cromulor (2227 posts) - - Show Bio

@boc: Honestly, Rhodey rarely ever uses his suit’s strength in battles. He usually just uses his huge arsenal of weapons and fights at range. These are the only real instances we see him lifting anything I think besides that time when he and Tony both failed to lift Thor’s hammer

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#43 Posted by Ready_4_Madness (15891 posts) - - Show Bio

Wonder Woman got punched by Doomsday and all it did was make her smile. I’m sorry but Panther isn’t in the same league as her.

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#44 Posted by BOC (1316 posts) - - Show Bio

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@boc: Honestly, Rhodey rarely ever uses his suit’s strength in battles. He usually just uses his huge arsenal of weapons and fights at range. These are the only real instances we see him lifting anything I think besides that time when he and Tony both failed to lift Thor’s hammer

That's why I said that it's most probable that he used multiple jets to do this, making his lifting strength much higher than his striking. Iron does this often, like when he helped Spidey during the ferry scene.

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#45 Posted by ThunderPrince (6968 posts) - - Show Bio

@agent41:

Based on feats. He isn't

That inaccurate. WW's best skill feat is defeating a group of poorly trained German soldiers with massive advantages such as her superior stats, her superior gear, and the element of surprise. She has been stomped by anyone who is physically on the same level as her. Not only has Black Panther defeated much better fodder such as highly trained mercenaries or the border tribemen, but he also matched characters with similar stats such as Captain America, Bucky, M'Baku, Killmonger, and the Winter Soldier. All these characters have much better skill feats than WW.

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@agent41:

Based on feats. He isn't

That inaccurate. WW's best skill feat is defeating a group of poorly trained German soldiers with massive advantages such as her superior stats, her superior gear, and the element of surprise. She has been stomped by anyone who is physically on the same level as her. Not only has Black Panther defeated much better fodder such as highly trained mercenaries or the border tribemen, but he also matched characters with similar stats such as Captain America, Bucky, M'Baku, Killmonger, and the Winter Soldier. All these characters have much better skill feats than WW.

WW's best skill feats involved beating all the other amazons before she unleashed her godly powers. And the amazons are trained warriors with thousands of years of combat experience, and they are well above peak human level stats.

bp has been tagged by less skilled people than WW. And she has been stomped by who exactly?

Characters like captain america and bucky are not on par with black panther in physical stats. He is stronger than them. And Wonder Woman is much stronger than him.

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@agent41:

WW's best skill feats involved beating all the other amazons before she unleashed her godly powers. And the amazons are trained warriors with thousands of years of combat experience, and they are well above peak human level stats.

The Amazons were merely sparing with her. Trust me, sparing with someone is completely different than having an actual fight. Not to mention the fact that Amazons suffered heavy losses against a small boarding party despite having home field advantage, ambushing their opponents, and the absolute lack of cover for the soldiers. Amazons were also struggling with a bunch of parademons that Batman was beating in h2h.

bp has been tagged by less skilled people than WW.

Please provide an example.

And she has been stomped by who exactly?

Steppenwolf stomped her as did Superman.

Characters like captain america and bucky are not on par with black panther in physical stats. He is stronger than them.

Again, please provide proof.

And Wonder Woman is much stronger than him.

Again, this doesn't matter if she cannot tag him and if he can casually slice her to shreds.

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@agent41:

WW's best skill feats involved beating all the other amazons before she unleashed her godly powers. And the amazons are trained warriors with thousands of years of combat experience, and they are well above peak human level stats.

The Amazons were merely sparing with her. Trust me, sparing with someone is completely different than having an actual fight. Not to mention the fact that Amazons suffered heavy losses against a small boarding party despite having home field advantage, ambushing their opponents, and the absolute lack of cover for the soldiers. Amazons were also struggling with a bunch of parademons that Batman was beating in h2h.

bp has been tagged by less skilled people than WW.

Please provide an example.

And she has been stomped by who exactly?

Steppenwolf stomped her as did Superman.

Characters like captain america and bucky are not on par with black panther in physical stats. He is stronger than them.

Again, please provide proof.

And Wonder Woman is much stronger than him.

Again, this doesn't matter if she cannot tag him and if he can casually slice her to shreds.

She went on to surpass them all. As she trained to be the best of them.

How about getting tagged by a Rhino for example?

Stenppenwolf did not stomp her. And him and Superman are stronger than her.

She can tag him.

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#49 Posted by agent41 (15575 posts) - - Show Bio

@tedirey: @somayareece: @anthp2000@ipvman Do any of you remember black panther being impposible to tag by anybody with less skills than him? Because i keep hearing this theory from thunderprince that if speed is equalized Wonder Woman can't tag him. And i don't remember anything from him that makes him so difficult to tag.

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#50 Posted by thehunter (3399 posts) - - Show Bio

Wonder Woman rag dolls him lol. I literally see her tossing him around like a piece of crumpled paper and bashing everything around them with him.