Logan and Psylocke got at it with no claws or powers. H2H battle. Who wins?
Wolverine Vs. Psylocke (H2H)
Hasn't Psylocke beaten him already?
Not in a straight h2h fight no.
James handily.
@juiceboks: Oh straight h2h? She'll get wasted. She could only stalemate Daredevil at best.
@juiceboks: Oh straight h2h? She'll get wasted. She could only stalemate Daredevil at best.
I disagree with this estimation. Elektra couldn't even stalemate Daredevil and she is, as far as ninjas go, the best in the world. Psylocke has grown in her ability as a fighter but her foundation is Revanche, a Hand ninja assassin.
@juiceboks: Oh straight h2h? She'll get wasted. She could only stalemate Daredevil at best.
I disagree with this estimation. Elektra couldn't even stalemate Daredevil and she is, as far as ninjas go, the best in the world. Psylocke has grown in her ability as a fighter but her foundation is Revanche, a Hand ninja assassin.
Did you read AvX? They actually fought to a standstill. Daredevil even noted that her style is similar to Elektra. I love Elektra but I doubt she is the best ninja. She definitely has many feats worth mentioning though.
Logan.
@juiceboks: Oh straight h2h? She'll get wasted. She could only stalemate Daredevil at best.
I disagree with this estimation. Elektra couldn't even stalemate Daredevil and she is, as far as ninjas go, the best in the world. Psylocke has grown in her ability as a fighter but her foundation is Revanche, a Hand ninja assassin.
Did you read AvX? They actually fought to a standstill. Daredevil even noted that her style is similar to Elektra. I love Elektra but I doubt she is the best ninja. She definitely has many feats worth mentioning though.
Elektra is said to be the best ninja by Wolverine and several other characters in the Marvel universe. Wolverine did not say that Psylocke is.
Betsy has no way to put down Logan in H2H only. All of those scans except the first are when Logan was severely injured and would sometime just randomly collapse and start bleeding to death.
@psy-scarlet: not without her powers and most of the times she did she needed help
Wolverine is more skilled and physically superior so he should take the majority. However it should be noted that both have gotten the upper hand on each other in the past.
@comic_book_fan: Then we should take away Wolverine healing factor as well then I can say Psylocke wins
@psy-scarlet: he did wolverine is still stronger faster and more skilled
As much as it hurts me to say this, Logan is a bit of a jobber but if he fights serious and with a clear head he should put her in the dirt.
@jay_z94: Does Betsy have a winning record vs Logan? Fighting him with pressure points, out-dueling him in a spar when he first tried recruiting her to the school, even when he was berserk or something along those lines. Even if he wasn’t necessarily losing, I don’t know if he’s ever outright overmatched her skill wise and that’s why I’m asking? Styles make fights, Logan just happens to know (and have mastered) more styles than 99% of fighters in marvel to counter them. She seems to be good in a fight against him. What are your thoughts?
@supermanwithatan01: Can’t give a proper answer atm, but both have gotten the upper hand on each other multiple times.
In H2H I think Logan would take the majority if he doesn’t hold back. But with all powers Psylocke would win.
@jay_z94: I speaking basically towards the skill aspect.
in pure h2h wolverine by a mile psylocke can barley get the better of him using her TP and TK if she isn't allowed either he is way to strong fast and skilled and both have admitted it multiple times
@wolverinebatmanftw: wolverine isn't a jobber he has more highend feats than low he is just in the same boat as batman if you mention his highend feats you get accused of being a fanboy he wins easily
@comic_book_fan: idk man, god_spawn broke it down a few years ago and she did best him sparring and has a few solid run-ins with him
@supermanwithatan01: Where did I say what?
Betsy doesn't have the fighting prowess she had before, she mentioned it in the current Uncanny run.
She's using a sword and shield combat style now.
@mrabductor: This was made 3+years ago, well beyond when she returned to her original body. If she is saying any lack of fighting skill now, isn’t going to be a factor here.
@god_spawn: I know, i was stating what would happen now. People always bump up older boards when someone changes significantly to include what they think now.
@supermanwithatan01: Where did I say what?
You did a solid breakdown of their encounters. It’s why I don’t believe Logan stomps h2h, since she has some solid fights with him.
“On the topic of Psylocke...to her credit, she bested him in an offpanel spar when Logan was trying to recruit her for his school. She got him with a pressure point when he was possessed by a Shadow King and it bought a brief moment to run. And she managed to do well when Logan went berserk when trying to kill Matsuo, however, the psiknife failed the first time before Jinn got involved and attacked Logan, and that Betsy a chance to focus and attack again, but Logan still kept fighting. I will also not discount her fights with Sabretooth and has fought him in CQC before the psiknife failed because of the previous brain injury Logan gave him. Then she beat the AoA version etc.
So, this is what I think. On a purely physical and skill level, Logan has better feats all around against a consistent string of highly skilled opponents. Betsy has done well against some, but admitted to herself she can’t outskill Murdock, someone at the most is on par with Logan, albeit I’d rank him slightly below. Betsy also has a tendency to fight up close and use the knife as a finisher. On a physical level, she has shown she can at the most hold him off but will eventually fail. With her full powerset, she has shown she is capable of winning.”
@supermanwithatan01: Forgot about that, lol.
@mrabductor: Gotcha.
Wolverine should win every single time... more skilled and if he's still got those Adamantium bones (which the OP does not say anything about) then Psylocke can't even hurt him and he'll hit back extremely hard.
@god_spawn: it was a good breakdown! Lol
@supermanwithatan01: where is the breakdown i want to check it out and where i admit she has beaten him almost every time she is always using her tk or tp or both to do it and in some cases had help.
in pure skill he wins and she has admitted such she has beaten him once in a spar but it was short and mostly conversation bishop has beaten him in a spar and we all know bishop wouldn't last two minutes against a serious wolverine iam not saying he would beat her that easily she is highly her and deadpool would be a fun debate and her and mystique and widow elektra all fun but wolverine is more skilled than any of themand has much better physicals
@supermanwithatan01: Oh, Logan is more skilled than Psylocke in H2H.
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