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Wolverine vs Daredevil and Elektra

- Morals are off

- Fighters are fighting to the best of their ability

- Daredevil has his batons, Elektra has her Sais

- Wolverine is bone-claw version

- Battle is in Mayberry, NC in front of Sheriff Andy Taylor's courthouse

- The team is meant to stop Logan from escaping the town by any means necessary

- Logan is fighting like he did in manifest destiny, using his skill primarily

****Edit****

Logan CAN use his boneclaws

Who wins?

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How is his resistance to nerve strikes?

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#3  Edited By KrleAvenger

@o0deadman0o: Take a look at Wolverine Vol. 1 #1 by Chris Claremont. Logan was fighting Shingen, a swordsman who's more skilled than Logan based on his own statement. They used wooden swords and Shingen landed 4 pressure points to the neck on Logan over the course of a single page, each meant to instantly paralyze and/or kill a target. Logan pretty much no-sold those and continued the fight. Not only was Logan's healing factor way weaker at a time when this comic came out, but in that issue in particular, Logan was poisoned and weakened. And despite all that, he still didn't care.

Yeah, his pressure points resistance is pretty absurd. Matt did one-shot Logan with pressure points in the past, but that was written by Garth Ennis who not only does not like Logan, but he was extremely disrespectful towards the character in that issue.

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#5  Edited By jay_z94

@supermanwithatan01: Without his adamantium and claws, I think the Team can take this.

It's been shown that Elektra can pin Logan down by keeping her sais pressed into into Logan's pressure points, this shouldn't be too hard to do with Matt's back up and the fact that Logan can't one-shot with his claws. Now admittedly, I'm not sure what they can do while he's pinned down, his bone structure is still incredibly dense and I'm not sure whether they could dismember him.

The only chance Logan has is if he one-shots with pressure points. Which actually might be pretty viable as he's in his Manifest Destiny mindset.

It's a very close fight.

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@krleavenger: thanks!

As for my answer I feel like I want to go with wolvie. He has decades of fighting experience and IIRC is a very good martial artist. Elektra and Matt are no jokes in h2h but with Logan's healing factor I don't think they can get it done.

Is Logan's healing better with adamantium or without?

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Team for sure.

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Ehh, i'd argue they could beat him even with his Adamantium.

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Logan blitzes.

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@jay_z94: so you give it to the team or MD Logan via nerve strikes?

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Logan is 2 nerfed, Team solidly

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Either would give him a good fight on their own (though Logan would win the majority imo), he's not beating them both at once.

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@o0deadman0o: Take a look at Wolverine Vol. 1 #1 by Chris Claremont. Logan was fighting Shingen, a swordsman who's more skilled than Logan based on his own statement. They used wooden swords and Shingen landed 4 pressure points to the neck on Logan over the course of a single page, each meant to instantly paralyze and/or kill a target. Logan pretty much no-sold those and continued the fight. Not only was Logan's healing factor way weaker at a time when this comic came out, but in that issue in particular, Logan was poisoned and weakened. And despite all that, he still didn't care.

Yeah, his pressure points resistance is pretty absurd. Matt did one-shot Logan with pressure points in the past, but that was written by Garth Ennis who not only does not like Logan, but he was extremely disrespectful towards the character in that issue.

He has tanked pressure points other times too, such as here in Daredevil (1998) issue 54, (the art is a bit trippy so the textboxes are highlighted in red):

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@o0deadman0o No problem. As for your question, his healing factor was weaker when he lost Adamantium, but that was because of massive damage and trauma his body went through after Magneto ripped it out of his skeleton. Not because of lack of Adamantium itself. So besides that, as far as I know, his healing factor is equally effective with or without Adamantium.

@jay_z94 I see. I think I read that back in a day. Thanks.

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#19  Edited By jay_z94

@o0deadman0o No problem. As for your question, his healing factor was weaker when he lost Adamantium, but that was because of massive damage and trauma his body went through after Magneto ripped it out of his skeleton. Not because of lack of Adamantium itself. So besides that, as far as I know, his healing factor is equally effective with or without Adamantium.

@jay_z94 I see. I think I read that back in a day. Thanks.

His healing factor was initially, severely weakened due to the trauma he suffered. However, once he recovered, his mutation started developing due to the adamantium not being there anymore to hinder it. During his time without adamantium, his healing factor received a major amp:

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Which stayed with him even after regaining the adamantium:

And no problem.

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@supermanwithatan01: Bone claws just about tip the scales in Logan's favor, he takes this in a good fight.

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Either way, majority for wolvie.

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Wolverine

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If morals are off and they are fighting to best ability wouldn't logan go beserk? If so shouldn't he blitz and rip them apart.

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@jay_z94: sorry to say but logan without the adimantium is pretty op he basically becomes a low tier superhuman he's stronger, faster, more agile, has better sense and healing factor unless they have a real way to K.O. him they lose

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Ahhhh, good fight , but daredevil and elektra are two of the best H2h fighters in all of comics, I can’t see them losing especially together

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@jay_z94: sorry to say but logan without the adimantium is pretty op he basically becomes a low tier superhuman he's stronger, faster, more agile, has better sense and healing factor unless they have a real way to K.O. him they lose

Logan with the admantium is already superhuman tbh.

His speed and healing factor increases, but he loses some strength, striking power and a lot of his durability.

Now that he can use his claws I think that he wins.

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Matt would need to distract Wolverine pretty well to let Elektra do this. Now that he can use his claws, this scenario seem more unlikely.

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#34 anthp2000  Moderator

I recall Elektra fighting Logan recently actually, but I could be wrong.

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Team if it's pure h2h

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@jay_z94: purely hand to hand, no adamantium, no claws, no clubs, no sais, no weapons of any sort, but both Daredevil and Elektra still have their abilities, could he take them on and win?

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This is an interesting fight.

Bone-claw Wolverine's healing factor is ridiculous; but the team has weapons and can match him in speed/agility. I'm gonna side with the team.

Thanks for reading,

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Wolverine without too much trouble

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Team stops him

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Still Wolverine murks the duo

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@jay_z94: purely hand to hand, no adamantium, no claws, no clubs, no sais, no weapons of any sort, but both Daredevil and Elektra still have their abilities, could he take them on and win?

In this scenario, Logan would win if he still had his HF, but would lose without it.

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@jay_z94: much appreciated as always sir!

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Probably team

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#47  Edited By comic_book_fan

wolverine easily they are not on the same level lol.

wolverine is even faster and depending on the version stronger without adamantium and his healing is better not to mention his bones are still as dense as steel if this is full savage wolverine he is way to strong and fast if it is just regular wolverine with bone claws he is still stronger and faster but also more skilled and could oneshot either of them although elektra fares better unless this is wolverine right after fatal attractions before his healing came back he wins and it's not even close

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Bump. Seems like a solid time to revisit this based on recent threads. Does Logan have what it takes to outskill both Matthew & Elektra?

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The team wins.

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Logan vs Elektra I can see as being contested. Logan ve Elektra and Daredevil, I don’t see him winning