Winged Garou & Tatsumaki Vs Wano Five

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  • Morals off
  • Win by any means
  • Fight takes place in a endless rocky open space
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Garou carries.

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#4  Edited By DankSinatra

It’s nice to see the recent manga chapters retcon the “willpower overcomes psychic ability” thing from the webcomic. So that endless argument dies and everyone can move onto new arguments.

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Garou solos stomps

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lmao

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Law blitzes and fodderizes Tatsumaki then they all gang up on Garou.

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@shirso said:

Law blitzes and fodderizes Tatsumaki then they all gang up on Garou.

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Kidd gets oneshotted just like how he was oneshotted by Shanks

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#12  Edited By Wushu59

Law alone solos with Room and Gear 5 Luffy can also solo. Tatsumaki get solo'd by any character here 1 v 1 except for maybe Killer which is still debatable due to speed difference and internal attacks. But I'm sure the usual suspects who only watch .read OPM will show up in this thread and try to downplay speed of One Piece characters when Luffy is clearly is fastest character here.

Too busy with work atm. Will post scans later.

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either opm solo

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Either could solo… Lol at them blitzing Tatsumaki it’s a joke she literally reacted Psykos beam which covered continent range in one manga panel…. She through rockets bigger than island with 1 finger no sold 300x gravity etc… She destroys them Kid is useless she crushes his body effortlessly same with killer and Zoro…

Garou completely outclasses and stats all 5 as well and has enternal attacks that disfigured the entire planet so that’s a automatic one shot

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As always one piece stans being hilarious. On the topic, the OPM duo solos.

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Winged Garou and Tats in a mismatch lmao.

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Garou solos

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Garou and tats both solo

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As if they could even pass Perfect Fist Garou.

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@wushu59:

Law definitely cannot solo Tatsumaki has great reactions and if comes down to TK or his room or Kroom she wins cause TK literally has no travel time…

Lmao how the hell is Kid or Zoro soloing? Neither can bypass her barrier that tanked Psykos Orochi blast which is stronger than anything in one piece and her barrier wasn’t even at full power… Zoro and kid Literally gets splattered like nothing…

Luffy will be harder to defeat because of his speed and his rubber body that’s the only person here who can even contest her

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Tatsumaki could solo, but can also lose to Law. But Garou definetly solo stomps

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@wushu59 said:

Law alone solos with Room and Gear 5 Luffy can also solo. Tatsumaki get solo'd by any character here 1 v 1 except for maybe Killer which is still debatable due to speed difference and internal attacks. But I'm sure the usual suspects who only watch .read OPM will show up in this thread and try to downplay speed of One Piece characters when Luffy is clearly is fastest character here.

Too busy with work atm. Will post scans later.

None of them solo shit.

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#25  Edited By Wushu59

I'm starting to wonder if people actually pay attention to context.

I use to be one of those people that wanked Tatumaki to Multi-Continent+ levels but after rereading the fight and paying attention more probably not even the case.

Here is why I think this is.

  • Pykos directly states she is more powerful then Tats (yes I know that Pyskos in not a reliable narrator but Tats has a shocked look on her face and there is additional things are added on to this.
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  • Pyskos proceeds to unleash her country slicers (which is calced at Mult-Continent)
  • The country slicing attack does not even hit Tatsumaki. All it does is graze her
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  • Tatsumaki LITERALLY has inner monologue gassing and being impressed by Pyskos power
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  • If Tatsumaki is so much above Pyskos in power then why is she going through extra measures and destroying her from the inside. Why doesn't she just one shot her?
  • Tatsumaki clearly has to go through extra measures and destroy her from the inside to weakened her durability / split her in half. Meaning Tatsumaki clearly does not scale to Pyskos max output.
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  • Why is Tatsumaki dodging Pyskos miniature beams if she is so much above her?
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  • It is even stated the miniature beam would have wiped out Tatsumaki with her shield down and required help from Genos. (the miniature beam literally over powers Genos as well) Genos is another wanked character output wise
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  • Pykos miniature beams are stopped by Tatsumaki not very big telekinetic rocks.....
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  • MultI- Continent level Rocks Ya'll

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  • What am getting at is not all of Pykos beams are the same level. The one which sliced up the country crust had more power than the rest. It contained more energy absorbed from the Earth's roots which is Pyskos power source.
  • You have be smoking pot to think Tatsumaki could stop a country slicing attacks which some small ass rocks.
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  • And reminder that Tatsumaki's physic telekinetic powers are inferior to another character which telekinetic powers at Sub-Rel speed
  • So rocks not even thrown at Sub-Rel Speed
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This is consistent which Tastumaki throwing a vehicle with regular humans it in recent chapters and said villains being completely unscathed. (Okay this is a joke but too funny not to bring up.)

  • People will try to wank Tatumaki with recent chapters but Saitama is clearly unbothered.
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Her durability without her shields is ass which I already established but here is more proof. Gets injured and pierced by regular attack from Pyskos that has nothing to with energy from her roots. Waaaay below her country slicer

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She also gets beaten down by fodder like Ugly after running out of stamina.

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Reminder that endurance = / = durability. OPM does not have a power system or life source such as Ki, Chakra or Haki. There is no way to make this make sense. Tastumaki durability without her shields is just not good.

If Zoro or even Killer catch Tastumaki with her shields down, she legit gets spit in half. (which they will because Tatsumaki is a statue to even mid tiers like Niji)

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#26  Edited By Wushu59

I'm about to go over in a bit why Winged Garou loses too. Need to grab scans

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#28  Edited By Wushu59
@moosixer said:

@wushu59:

1. Law definitely cannot solo Tatsumaki has great reactions and if comes down to TK or his room or Kroom she wins cause TK literally has no travel time…

2. Lmao how the hell is Kid or Zoro soloing? Neither can bypass her barrier that tanked Psykos Orochi blast which is stronger than anything in one piece and her barrier wasn’t even at full power… Zoro and kid Literally gets splattered like nothing…

3. Luffy will be harder to defeat because of his speed and his rubber body that’s the only person here who can even contest her

I numbered your points so I can respond to each.

1. Law solo them both at the same time. Her reaction is slow asf compared to OP characters who are way faster then the speed of light in terms of combat and reaction speed. She is even slower then One Piece mid tiers like Niji. Room tags her from insider her barrier. He does not need Awakening at all.

2. This is wrong. Her barrier at no point tanked same level of attack as country slicer. Refer to post 25 in this thread. Zoro can cut Hybrid Kaido who serval tiers more durable then Tatumaki by showings. He simply blitz overpowers and splits her in half. Kid can just magnetize her and crush her with her own barrier or just own shot with his Rail Gun. Speed disadvantage is disgusting.

3. ...... There is 0 win con for her against Luffy. He can legit one shot her with basic Ryou in his base form. Even his base form statues One Piece characters that statue other One Piece characters that statue Tatsumaki. She gets blitzed and one tapped by Ryou. Gear 5 can transmute her barrier and is overkill.

OPM characters have weak internals organs.....

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The only characters that this doesn't apply to is....

Saitama, Cosmic Fear Garou, God and creature with much different biology.

Luffy legit blitzes and one taps with Ryou.

Winged Garou only has speed scaling above previous form and Platinum Sperm. Luffy's speed scaling with his multiple Gears and off Mid Tier who are already FTL is way more insane.

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@wushu59 said:

I'm starting to wonder if people actually pay attention to context.

I use to be one of those people that wanked Tatumaki to Multi-Continent+ levels but after rereading the fight and paying attention more probably not even the case.

Here is why I think this is.

  • Pykos directly states she is more powerful then Tats (yes I know that Pyskos in not a reliable narrator but Tats has a shocked look on her face and there is additional things are added on to this.
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  • Pyskos proceeds to unleash her country slicers (which is calced at Mult-Continent)
  • The country slicing attack does not even hit Tatsumaki. All it does is graze her
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  • Tatsumaki LITERALLY has inner monologue gassing and being impressed by Pyskos power
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  • If Tatsumaki is so much above Pyskos in power then why is she going through extra measures and destroying her from the inside. Why doesn't she just one shot her?
  • Tatsumaki clearly has to go through extra measures and destroy her from the inside to weakened her durability / split her in half. Meaning Tatsumaki clearly does not scale to Pyskos max output.
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  • Why is Tatsumaki dodging Pyskos miniature beams if she is so much above her?
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  • It is even stated the miniature beam would have wiped out Tatsumaki with her shield down and required help from Genos. (the miniature beam literally over powers Genos as well) Genos is another wanked character output wise
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  • Pykos miniature beams are stopped by Tatsumaki not very big telekinetic rocks.....
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  • MultI- Continent level Rocks Ya'll

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  • What am getting at is not all of Pykos beams are the same level. The one which sliced up the country crust had more power than the rest. It contained more energy absorbed from the Earth's roots which is Pyskos power source.
  • You have be smoking pot to think Tatsumaki could stop a country slicing attacks which some small ass rocks.
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  • And reminder that Tatsumaki's physic telekinetic powers are inferior to another character which telekinetic powers at Sub-Rel speed
  • So rocks not even thrown at Sub-Rel Speed
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This is consistent which Tastumaki throwing a vehicle with regular humans it in recent chapters and said villains being completely unscathed. (Okay this is a joke but too funny not to bring up.)

  • People will try to wank Tatumaki with recent chapters but Saitama is clearly unbothered.
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Her durability without her shields is ass which I already established but here is more proof. Gets injured and pierced by regular attack from Pyskos that has nothing to with energy from her roots. Waaaay below her country slicer

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She also gets beaten down by fodder like Ugly after running out of stamina.

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Reminder that endurance = / = durability. OPM does not have a power system or life source such as Ki, Chakra or Haki. There is no way to make this make sense. Tastumaki durability without her shields is just not good.

If Zoro or even Killer catch Tastumaki with her shields down, she legit gets spit in half. (which they will because Tatsumaki is a statue to even mid tiers like Niji)

Psykos in the end Admitted Wounded Tats was a Monster compared to her after everything, Continent shaver and all.

Tats was holding back so she wouldn't crush and kill all the heroes still caught up inside the MA Base.

Sure Tats can be less durable but her AP N Telekinetic Powers are still >>>> to Merged God Amped Psykos

That's all i wanted to point out with your Comment good day sir

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#31  Edited By Moosixer
@wushu59 said:

Law solo them both at the same time. Her reaction is slow asf compared to OP characters who are way faster then the speed of light in terms of combat and reaction speed. She is even slower then One Piece mid tiers like Niji. Room tags her from insider her barrier. He does not need Awakening at all.

Law can't solo anything let alone at the same time loool. Her reactions isn't slow af she reacted to Psykos beam from point blank range while being caught off guard As you can clearly see that beam also traveled multi continental range(bigger than any land mass in the entire one piece series btw) in one manga panel which is more impressive than any speed feat in one piece honestly... Especially considering Tatsumaki didnt see it coming. Law isn't blitzing anything we can kill that argument now. Not only that she can multiple gravity 1000x to slow him down or crush him etc just to many options honestly. Or just straight up flatten him.

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This is wrong. Her barrier at no point tanked same level of attack as country slicer. Refer to post 25 in this thread. Zoro can cut Hybrid Kaido who serval tiers more durable then Tatumaki by showings. He simply blitz overpowers and splits her in half. Kid can just magnetize her and crush her with her own barrier or just own shot with his Rail Gun. Speed disadvantage is disgusting.

This is clearly all wrong and nothing but your head cannon... Tatsumaki was clearly caught in the blast as we see the blast completely covered her in the scan... -X- So quit lying saying she was only grazed... Cutting Hybrid Kaido is irrelevant as Psykos Beam completely outclass anything he's ever tanked... Lol if you think Zoro is ever going to get within cutting range or cut through her barrier your joking. Tatsumaki admits she was holding back her powers -X- So which means her barrier could get even stronger... Zoro literally gets the same treatment Psykos got when Tats got serious same for Kid and Killer Not to mention she casually finger flicked 20 rocks that dwarf mountain ranges-X- She would literally send Onigashima and Wano to orbit if she wanted to lol. Kid Magnetize her and she turns him into a twisted blood splat... There is no comparison here.

There is 0 win con for her against Luffy. He can legit one shot her with basic Ryou in his base form. Even his base form statues One Piece characters that statue other One Piece characters that statue Tatsumaki. She gets blitzed and one tapped by Ryou. Gear 5 can transmute her barrier and is overkill.

She beat Luffy as well he cannot bypass the barrier. Once she uses her TK to freeze him and dump him in the ocean... Also Garou negs all of them.....

Garou speed completely shits on anything in OPM... A far weaker and slower Garou and PS made a constellation-This feat alone puts them at MTFL... and then Garou proceeded to blitz and one shot PS... Garou evolved 2x more after that and he disfigured the entire planet and caused a rip in space in time with an attack that was meant to target organs alone... Not to mention his crazy regeneration and skill and the ability to grow extra limbs at will and fly. He'd literally one shot all of them including Luffy lets be serious here. Imu vaped an island an that was supposed to be impressive meanwhile Garou did this. That isn't even meant to be a destructive attack by the way...

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@wushu59:

Time to address this nonsense for post 25.

Psykos saying she was more powerful than Tatsumaki is clearly wrong as Psykos lost and was fodderized once Tatsumaki could go all out even Psykos admits this MULTIPLE TIMES-

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Tatsumaki was impressed because she knew absorbing a couple of monsters wouldn't give Psykos that much of a power jump and she was right since Psykos literally took power from god so once again you killing your own argument and Tatsumaki clearly was hit by the blast as ive shown above her body was completely covered.

Lmao Tatsumaki destroyed her from the inside because she couldn't use her full power and just crush her from the start because the other heros would have been collateral if she did she explained this in the spoiler scans above...

She dodged the beams because she could lmao what? Just because you dodge something doesn't mean it can hurt you or you cant block it wtf kind of argument is that?

Are we really going to say Geryu is stronger than Tatsumaki lmao? Those scans were released way before we seen he true power please stop it it's getting sad. Also Tatsumaki literally pulled a meteor from the asteroid belt to kill a dragon she can clearly increase and or decrease the speed in which her TK is flinging objects...

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Quit comparing her to Zoro please he is utter fodder lmao him Law Kid and Killer would literally get this treatment as soon as the battle start

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#33  Edited By Wushu59

@multifandomboyo:

Psykos in the end Admitted Wounded Tats was a Monster compared to her after everything,

Scan? I read the whole fight back and didn't see it.

Edit: I know what you mean know. Cause she was "holding back" This isn't relevant because Pykos dubraility doesn't scale to her own max power beam. There are multiple things that prove this

Continent shaver and all.

*Country shaver. It's only calc at MV. If she scaled to max output, then she wouldn't have bothered dodging the weaker beams. Same weaker beams which Tatsumaki stopped dead in there tracks with rocks. Clearly no where near the same level as the initial attack yet Tatsumaki still has to avoid them.

Tats was holding back so she wouldn't crush and kill all the heroes still caught up inside the MA Base.

Scan?

Sure Tats can be less durable but her AP N Telekinetic Powers are still >>>> to Merged God Amped Psykos

Her telekinetic powers are 2nd to Boro's henchman which has TK at Sub-Rel speed. I already posted the scan for this. There is nothing that implies that Psykos durability scaled to one sliced the country crust off. It's not even her own energy. She got it from absorbing energy from Earth's roots. So it isn't relevant that Tatsumaki had the output to finish her. She still doesn't scale to her max output.

That's all i wanted to point out with your Comment good day sir

Good night to you sir.

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#34  Edited By Wushu59

@moosixer:

Law can't solo anything let alone at the same time loool.

Yes he can. He statues her by an insane degree. Literally just lifts his finger up.

Her reactions isn't slow af she reacted to Psykos beam from point blank range while being caught off guard

Okay? So did Genos. Fodder speed. Psykos is slow as hell compared to One Piece mids tiers. So what is your point?

As you can clearly see that beam also traveled multi continental range

No it did not. It is calced at those levels through KE. Same shit as Luffy's Bajrang Gun via calcs while using speeds slower then even his base form.

And even I go by your wank, light travels around the planet in 7.5 times in a second.... Mid tiers in One Piece have ftl reactions.

(bigger than any land mass in the entire one piece series btw)

No it isn't. There are literal islands and countries in One Piece the size of continents. One Piece planet is several times bigger then IRL one. Pykos country cutter would be vastly less visible if done on the One Piece planet. Whitebeard can literally shift the tectonic plates of an entire ocean. It's not possible to only tilt one part of the ocean. Way more range then Pyskos.

in one manga panel which is more impressive than any speed feat in one piece honestly...

You're a fool if you believe this. Even VS battle wiki which is known for wanking OPM caps her at relativistic + (still wank btw) which is literally slower then mid tiers in OP

Especially considering Tatsumaki didnt see it coming. Law isn't blitzing anything we can kill that argument now. Not only that she can multiple gravity 1000x to slow him down or crush him etc just to many options honestly. Or just straight up flatten him.

Too slow. He lifts his finger up takes her head off.

This is clearly all wrong and nothing but your head cannon... Tatsumaki was clearly caught in the blast as we see the blast completely covered her in the scan...

-X- So quit lying saying she was only grazed...

LMFAO. Then why is she running away from the small ass beams which can literally be stopped with rocks? Her rocks are obviously not Multi-Continent level. I need you to keep up, pay attention an use your actual brain. Refer to scans an actually counter them or it is you that is making up headcanon.

Those beams which can literally one shot her without her barrier were stopped by rocks.

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Cutting Hybrid Kaido is irrelevant as Psykos Beam completely outclass anything he's ever tanked...

He clash with Bajrang Gun which is calced in the same ball park Kinetic Energy wise even when using slower then base form Luffy speed. So no. This is wrong. Very wrong.

Lol if you think Zoro is ever going to get within cutting range or cut through her barrier your joking. Tatsumaki admits she was holding back her powers -X- So which means her barrier could get even stronger... Zoro literally gets the same treatment Psykos got when Tats got serious same for Kid and Killer

Psykos has no notable durability showings. She does not scale to her max output attack which is not even her own power but from the Earth. This is headcanon.

Not to mention she casually finger flicked 20 rocks that dwarf mountain ranges-X- She would literally send Onigashima and Wano to orbit if she wanted to lol.

Those rocks were not mountain sized. I need you to stop smoking pot. he Fox statue's outside of Onigashima are mountain sized based on canonical height of the Sunny.

Kid Magnetize her and she turns him into a twisted blood splat... There is no comparison here.

Fodder like Ugly mangled her. Kid would do 10000x that damage as she is statue. lmao

She beat Luffy as well he cannot bypass the barrier. Once she uses her TK to freeze him and dump him in the ocean...

Luffy just transmutes her barrier and kills her with it. Also one shots her in base with just Ryou. She is a statue. She has no TK feats to suggest she can do this to someone as strong as Luffy. More headcanon.

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Also Garou negs all of them.....

Too slow. Power advantage is not enough. He is weak to internal attack s as directly stated by himself and Luffy also has durability alternation. Law one shots with Room

Garou speed completely shits on anything in OPM...

Only Cosmic Fear

A far weaker and slower Garou and PS made a constellation-This feat alone puts them at MTFL...

That isn't a MFTL feat? What in the fuck? LOL. Bro stop talking out of your ass. I seen a calc at 7x FTL which is not that fast compared to One Piece characters here in terms of combat. All of them scale above that. Marco legit has a feat calced at 7x ftl pre-time skip casually.

and then Garou proceeded to blitz and one shot PS...

Katakuri could literally do that to Platinum Sperm. That isn't impressive.

Not to mention his crazy regeneration and skill and the ability to grow extra limbs at will and fly.

Show me scan for his "crazy regen" Regen does not help his weakness for internal attacks which is directly stated by him. He still suffers massive damage.

He'd literally one shot all of them including Luffy lets be serious here. Imu vaped an island an that was supposed to be impressive meanwhile Garou did this. That isn't even meant to be a destructive attack by the way...

Why are you being disingenuous as fuck right now? Enel vaped an island pre-time skip before even bringing out Raigo. Sai can shatter a continent which is denser then steel. Whitebeard shifted tectonic plates of an ocean. The One Piece world is literally mostly water more so then our world.

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While it is impressive, you understand that this would not even make it 1/4th of the way through the One Piece planet which is massively bigger then IRL Earth, correct?

This also would not help as Garou is still a statue and weak to internal attacks.

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Luffy also has durability alternation. Law one shots with Room, etc.

Psykos saying she was more powerful than Tatsumaki is clearly wrong as Psykos lost and was fodderized once Tatsumaki could go all out even Psykos admits this MULTIPLE TIMES-

No. Not MULTIPLE times.. Only once. Way more statements and feats which show the opposite. And it's not relevant has Pyskos durability does not scale to her max power beam which takes energy from the Earth. There are way more indicators of the opposite like Tastumaki having to dodge beams no where close to the country slicer one. Your scan literally show Genos having to help Tatsumaki with one of the weaker attacks.

"Her becoming serious" is not relevant to the country slicer at all. That has nothing do with Psykos durability. Again. You are disregarding clear cut feats of her ass durability and taking statements out of content.

And even if I accept your wank here she is still as statue who gets one shot. This wouldn't even put her above Gear 5th Luffy in stats.

Tatsumaki was impressed because she knew absorbing a couple of monsters wouldn't give Psykos that much of a power jump and she was right since Psykos literally took power from god so once again you killing your own argument and T

Nice headcanon. God gave her power but she still requires energy from Earth's core.

She is impressed because a country sized crust was sliced off the Earth which Tatsumaki does not scale to. Even weaker beams which can be stopped by rocks can kill her.

Tatsumaki clearly was hit by the blast as ive shown above her body was completely covered.

She had bewilder look on her face and she was clearly grazed by it. I everything I posted including her having to weaker beams with rocks which are not MC level is direct proof of this.

Lmao Tatsumaki destroyed her from the inside because she couldn't use her full power and just crush her from the start because the other heros would have been collateral if she did she explained this in the spoiler scans above...

Even if this was true this would not be relevant as Psykos durability does not scale to her own max output which she steals from the Earth. Give me a scan for this.

She dodged the beams because she could lmao what? Just because you dodge something doesn't mean it can hurt you or you cant block it wtf kind of argument is that?

Beams that are stop by fucken rocks. lmao. Magnitudes weaker then her country slcier. It proves how fodder her durability is. Literally stated weaker attacks would kill her with no barrier and needed Genos help.

Are we really going to say Geryu is stronger than Tatsumaki lmao? Those scans were released way before we seen he true power please stop it it's getting sad. Also Tatsumaki literally pulled a meteor from the asteroid belt to kill a dragon she can clearly increase and or decrease the speed in which her TK is flinging objects...

Weaker then Fujitora level. That isn't impressive. Zoro slice off a dragon's head in Punk Hazard. Sanji kicks around sea monsters that 600m. Who cares?

Quit comparing her to Zoro please he is utter fodder lmao him Law Kid and Killer would literally get this treatment as soon as the battle start

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  • A statue to even One Piece mid tiers
  • Gets one shot by any character here without her shields up by showings
  • Law lifts his finger up and one shot both
  • Luffy either one shots in base using Ryou or crushed her with own barrier in Gear 5

The only thing you have demonstrated to me is how much of wanker you are. MFTL Platinum Sperm really? I need you stop making up bullshit to wank your favorite series. It's really sad.

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#35  Edited By Wushu59

One Piece planet might even be bigger the picture. People legit don't use their brains sometimes.

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I took the Garou scan, took the planet from the panel and made it same size as Earth in the picture and pasted on OP planet.

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@wushu59: Garou doesn't really need to train his internals to become more durable when he has regen like this.

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Lmao I’m on my phone right now so I can’t post my counter yet but that make believe planet scaling for one piece is hilarious and continental size island??? Lmao we literally seen Dressrosa from a Birds Eye view and it isn’t even the size of a state… Also claiming Garou getting put down by Ryu is the funniest thing ever when he literally regenerated a-whole arm….

Also Luffy turning literally TK into rubber is just hilarious I also heard one of you one piece fans say he could do turn radiation into in the Garou thread 🤣🤣🤣🤣😮‍💨

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Lmao I’m on my phone right now so I can’t post my counter yet but that make believe planet scaling for one piece is hilarious and continental size island??? Lmao we literally seen Dressrosa from a Birds Eye view and it isn’t even the size of a state… Also claiming Garou getting put down by Ryu is the funniest thing ever when he literally regenerated a-whole arm….

Also Luffy turning literal TK into rubber is just hilarious I also heard one of you one piece fans say he could do turn radiation into in the Garou thread 🤣🤣🤣🤣😮‍💨

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Lmao I’m on my phone right now so I can’t post my counter yet but that make believe planet scaling for one piece is hilarious and continental size island??? Lmao we literally seen Dressrosa from a Birds Eye view and it isn’t even the size of a state… Also claiming Garou getting put down by Ryu is the funniest thing ever when he literally regenerated a-whole arm….

Also Luffy turning literal TK into rubber is just hilarious I also heard one of you one piece fans say he could do turn radiation into rubber in the Garou thread 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Let me guess y’all think he can turn gravity into rubber hell I wouldn’t be surprise if y’all said he could turn space and time into rubber 🤣🤣🤣

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#40  Edited By Atreyuman

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This is Wu.

Lmao I’m on my phone right now so I can’t post my counter yet

Don't bother. Your counters are terrible. And you either lie or don't pay attention to what's going on.

- You claim Tastumaki is FTL or even higher. This is blatantly false and not even Vs Wiki which wanks has her at that speed. The author literal says her telekinetic powers are inferior to another character with sub-rel telekinetic powers. Those rocks for example that stop Pyskos smaller beams in there tracks

- You claim Platinum Sperm is MFTL. MFTL is literally at least 100x the speed of light..... Fan calcs only get Sperm to 7x the speed of light which is slower then even Gear 2nd Luffy fresh out the time skip. Marco casually has that level speed feat Pre-Time Skip. Katakuri being able to keep pace with WCI G4 Snakeman can quite literally blitz Sperm like there was no tomorrow.

Still waiting on you to counter my points which have failed to do. You wank without taking things into proper context.

but that make believe planet scaling for one piece is hilarious and continental size island???

Alabasta is the size of a continent. It's literally stated in manga by how far the river stretches. Google it. We find out Wano is the size of a continent after the fight with Kaido is over. There is thread regarding the size of Wano on CV. Look it up.

This is relevant as we find out Luffy's Bajrang Gun was felt by the entirety of Wano in Road to Laugh Tale Vol. 4

Lmao we literally seen Dressrosa from a Birds Eye view and it isn’t even the size of a state…

When did I say Dressrosa? Keep up. I'm referring to Wano. Alabasta is also the size of a continent.

Also claiming Garou getting put down by Ryu is the funniest thing ever when he literally regenerated a-whole arm….

You understand that regeneration does not enhance his internal durability, correct? All it does is help mend the damage. He still has weak internal organs via his own statement and can still die from the damage output regardless.

  • Boros who had regen and still died from Saitama damage output
  • 10 Tails Madara who has regen almost died from 8 Gates Might Guy damage output

Couple of examples for you.

Luffy can also manipulate whatever he transmutes to do whatever he wants. So he would have complete control over Garou entire biology after transmuting him including his regen. Not that he needs to. His internals are weak and can not withstand the impact / damage of Luffy's internal strikes. Luffy statues him and attacks at speeds he can not react to. So he literally just gets blitzed barraged and dies from internal impact. He also has durability alteration which he does not need at all. Law lifts his finger up cuts him up to pieces. Kid turns body parts into magnet and trap them in metal boxes, etc. Too much hax on top of being out speed.

Also Luffy turning literally TK into rubber is just hilarious I also heard one of you one piece fans say he could do turn radiation into in the Garou thread 🤣🤣🤣🤣😮‍💨

I never said that. Why do you keep putting words in my mouth? Tatsumaki's barrier is a solid substance. It has been manipulated before an turned inside out on panel. Luffy can legit transmute it and crush her with it. Law can completely ignore it and get inside without destroying it. Lift his finger up and cuts her into pieces via spatical hax.

This isn't at all needed anyway. Her durability sucks and she is a statue to every single character on the opposite side who in FTL+ & high FTL+ ranges of combat speed. Again, she never tanked any attack on level of country slicer. Not even her barrier.

Winged Garou's Speed Scaling

Wing Garou > 3rd form > 2nd form > Platinum Sperm who is only ftl via fan calc. (not even ftl+)

Gear 5 Luffy Speed Scaling

Gear 5th > Gear 4th Snakeman > Gear 4th Boundman > Gear 2nd > Current Base Luffy > Katakuri > WCI Gear 4th Boundman > Vinsmoke Ichiji who is FTL >= Niji who explicitly has light attack speed attack by multiple sources

Another scaling chain you can go by is....

Gear 5th > Gear 4th Snakeman > Gear 4th Boundman > Gear 2nd > Current Base Luffy > Katakuri > WCI Gear 4th Boundman > WCI Gear 2nd > fresh out of time skip Base Luffy called Pacifista light beams based of Kizaru lasers "too slow"

It doesn't matter which one you use. Either way, Luffy's speed scaling is much crazier then Garou off the speed of light. Only Cosmic Fear Garou has clear cut MFTL feats. Anything below that is a statue to Luffy.

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#41  Edited By Atreyuman
  • Regeneration does not enhance internal durability

This needs to be emphasised

- It does not soften the damage. Only helps mend it. Can still die from impact of the damage just like Boros. Or how 10 Tails Madara Pre- God Tree almost died when hit by 8 Gates Might Guy.

It's explicitly stated Garou pre Cosmic Fear has weak internal organs. It is what it is.

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Yes he can. He statues her by an insane degree. Literally just lifts his finger up. Okay? So did Genos. Fodder speed. Psykos is slow as hell compared to One Piece mids tiers. So what is your point?

He can't statue her i already shown her reaction speed feats Law does not have striking speed nor travel speed just good reaction speed thats all... Just lifts a finger a do what exactly? Law needs to call out room or use Kroom to do anything not only that it doesn't even kill... TK literally has no travel time so law gets crushed instantly if it becomes a battle of speed... Genos speed isn't fodder is scales to the speed of Psykos blast... Also i never mentioned Psykos speed at all because i was referring to the speed of her attack not her.

No it did not. It is calced at those levels through KE. Same shit as Luffy's Bajrang Gun via calcs while using speeds slower then even his base form.And even I go by your wank, light travels around the planet in 7.5 times in a second.... Mid tiers in One Piece have ftl reactions.

Your literally arguing with Manga scans here... The blast went straight through all that crust it didn't explode or leave any shockwaves all that damage was cause by pure energy... Light does travel that fast but no one in one piece can even clear a island in 7 seconds let alone the planet hell it took luffy like 5 chapters to run colosseum to the capital loooool.

No it isn't. There are literal islands and countries in One Piece the size of continents. One Piece planet is several times bigger then IRL one. Pykos country cutter would be vastly less visible if done on the One Piece planet. Whitebeard can literally shift the tectonic plates of an entire ocean. It's not possible to only tilt one part of the ocean. Way more range then Pyskos.

No island in one piece is IRL continent size... Also continent vary so much in size so to coin the frame continent doesn't help your fanfic headcannon United states in a country thats bigger than a continent so yea... Also did Oda ever state this no he didn't your literally just making this up nothing was ever hinted that OP Earth was bigger than the real earth stop it.... Whitebeard never shook tectonic plates he just caused a Tsunami thats it. Also that terrible showing at Marineford isn't impressive at all... Sanjuan wolf who is only 590ft was about as big as the entire Marineford battlefield would be visible from the view of the most destructive feat in OP that alone tells you how mediocre these waves were and how mediocre the size of these islands/countries are in one piece. Psykos attack was literally visible from space meanwhile whitebeard would have even been visible from a couple miles away...

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You're a fool if you believe this. Even VS battle wiki which is known for wanking OPM caps her at relativistic + (still wank btw) which is literally slower then mid tiers in OP Too slow. He lifts his finger up takes her head off.

I literally never once mentioned Psykos moving speed not sure why you keep bringing it up. Take her head off with what? Lmao Law is not a speedster at all..

LMFAO. Then why is she running away from the small ass beams which can literally be stopped with rocks? Her rocks are obviously not Multi-Continent level. I need you to keep up, pay attention an use your actual brain. Refer to scans an actually counter them or it is you that is making up headcanon.Those beams which can literally one shot her without her barrier were stopped by rocks.

She literally dodged them just because she could... Just because she can block them doesn't mean she'll just constantly letting them hit her lol what type of argument is that???? Those Rocks clearly dwarf the city below and in a different scan they dwarfed mountain ranges she could literally throw the entire marineford and Onigashima with a finger flick... The beam didn't get stopped by the rocks she is clearly destroying all of them she swung her arms across to hit them all...-X-

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Those rocks were not mountain sized. I need you to stop smoking pot. he Fox statue's outside of Onigashima are mountain sized based on canonical height of the Sunny.Fodder like Ugly mangled her. Kid would do 10000x that damage as she is statue. lmao Luffy just transmutes her barrier and kills her with it. Also one shots her in base with just Ryou. She is a statue.

Why mention what Furher did when she was completely out of energy lol thats like me judging Luffy in seastone lol get serious. Can you stop wanking Onigashima size lmao we can see Navy ships compared to the full size of Onigashima

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We can clearly see One piece is very Lack luster in terms of DC lmao..... Kid is a Non factor he's literally like her just 100x weaker... Lmao since when could you transmute an invisible force made by the mind? TK has no physical form at all its literally like saying Luffy can transmute Haki or something show me feats of anyone transmuting a force ill wait...

She has no TK feats to suggest she can do this to someone as strong as Luffy. More headcanon.

Her TK literally pulled a asteroid from space to earth in seconds and she made a drill visible from space. Luffy strength can't compete my friend.

That isn't a MFTL feat? What in the fuck? LOL. Bro stop talking out of your ass. I seen a calc at 7x FTL which is not that fast compared to One Piece characters here in terms of combat. All of them scale above that. Marco legit has a feat calced at 7x ftl pre-time skip casually.Katakuri could literally do that to Platinum Sperm. That isn't impressive.

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From the 1 hour 32mins mark to the 1 hour 34 min mark is literally a breakdown of Garou speed being over 1000x the speed of light and the lowball of 120x the speed of light and Monster Garou is much faster than that version of Garou so yeaaa speed is in favor of Garou...

Show me scan for his "crazy regen" Regen does not help his weakness for internal attacks which is directly stated by him. He still suffers massive damage. Why are you being disingenuous as fuck right now? Enel vaped an island pre-time skip before even bringing out Raigo. Sai can shatter a continent which is denser then steel. Whitebeard shifted tectonic plates of an ocean. The One Piece world is literally mostly water more so then our world.

Any damage he suffers he heals from it not like he'll be getting hit anyways with the speed and skill advantage he holds over them lmao. Enel was hyped to vape an island and Oda himself stated that enel has one of the most destructive and broken fruits...

While it is impressive, you understand that this would not even make it 1/4th of the way through the One Piece planet which is massively bigger then IRL Earth, correct?This also would not help as Garou is still a statue and weak to internal attacks. Luffy also has durability alternation. Law one shots with Room, etc.

Once again fans came up with that theory it was never implied through the story nor was it ever stated that One piece Earth is bigger quit using that fanfic made up argument... I already explained why is tiers above them in speed not addressing it again and Luffy durability alternation isn't a NLF he's never tanked planet level attacks that can rip through dimensional barriers he gets pasted... Law is blitzed and laid to waste not like he would be able to hurt Garou anyways...

No. Not MULTIPLE times.. Only once. Way more statements and feats which show the opposite. And it's not relevant has Pyskos durability does not scale to her max power beam which takes energy from the Earth. There are way more indicators of the opposite like Tastumaki having to dodge beams no where close to the country slicer one. Your scan literally show Genos having to help Tatsumaki with one of the weaker attacks. "Her becoming serious" is not relevant to the country slicer at all. That has nothing do with Psykos durability. Again. You are disregarding clear cut feats of her ass durability and taking statements out of content.She is impressed because a country sized crust was sliced off the Earth which Tatsumaki does not scale to. Even weaker beams which can be stopped by rocks can kill her.

Never did i state her durability=Max power for one and Tatsumaki literally swatted the Continent splitter with one hand once she was able to use her full power.

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Also i never said nor claimed Tatsumaki can tank anything on that level with her base body i was strictly talking about her with her barrier up... Once again Genos helped her while she wasn't serious if she was able to go all out she would have never needed help to begin with she would have fodderized Psykos like she did once she went serious... Once again she was impressed because that was an impressive feat for Psykos especially after she barely tried and fodderized her inside the M.O building. Also being impressed does not mean i cant do that...

She had bewilder look on her face and she was clearly grazed by it. I everything I posted including her having to weaker beams with rocks which are not MC level is direct proof of this.

Literally arguing with a manga scan at this point she was completely covered in the Energy blast nothing suggest she was grazed just accept the feat...

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One Piece planet might even be bigger the picture. People legit don't use their brains sometimes.

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I took the Garou scan, took the planet from the panel and made it same size as Earth in the picture and pasted on OP planet.

Literally fan made fanfic LMAOOOOOO

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  • Regeneration does not enhance internal durability

This needs to be emphasised

- It does not soften the damage. Only helps mend it. Can still die from impact of the damage just like Boros. Or how 10 Tails Madara Pre- God Tree almost died when hit by 8 Gates Might Guy.

It's explicitly stated Garou pre Cosmic Fear has weak internal organs. It is what it is.

Garou literally got hit and had his entire body cavity shattered and cracked and it didn't slow him down or kill him not only that Monster Garou literally has a completely different level of regen then the Garou who fought Darkshine. Boros died because his entire body was nearly vaped and he ran out of energy... He never stated he had weak organs he just said you can't train your organs etc... Ryu never killed Kaido or anyone else who had weak organs it isn't going to start here not like they have the skill or speed to land any good hits anyways. Garou is faster more skilled and unlike Luffy he does not have a time limit on his ability he also disfigured the entire planet with an attack that was targeting organs and he ripped through a dimension barrier no one and one piece can compete end of debate.

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Garou solos the verse

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#46  Edited By StruggleMeal

@wushu59: Law solos ? Speed difference ? Lol if anything the entire OPM team gets blitzed by Garou who has full fledged FTL+ feats instead of vague upscaling

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Tatsumaki, kidd, killer, zoro dies on the crossfire , while Either Luffy and Law hax garou to death or Garou oneshot the duo with a mere shockwave of his punch.

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Perfect Fist Garou blitzstomps, anything above solos the verse.

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This is sad ngl