Wildcat vs. Harley Quinn

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- 1 day prep

- Battlefield: Vegas Strip

- Pre-52 versions of both.

- In character

- Ted gets his knuckledusters

- Harley gets her hammer, popgun, and two joker-bombs (no gas)

- Start 10 yards away from each other, within sight. The Strip is not populated, but there is plenty of terrain to use

- Win by death or KO

Wildcat wins - he is easily DC's best H2H Badass Normal fighter. I mean he taught the Batgod how to fight for Thor's sake!

@sunhawk: He taught Batgod how to BOX... not quite the same thing.

And Harley is still stronger, faster, more agile/acrobatic, arguably smarter, kookier, and better-equipped.

Harley due to better equipment I think. No idea if it was pure H2H though.

@Pyrogram said:

Harley due to better equipment I think. No idea if it was pure H2H though.

Gear is listed in the OP and yea I agree.

@Joygirl It's not much of a fair fight if your giving Harley projectiles. H2H Wildcat would own Harley, but with the equipment Harley wins.

@dngn4774: The popgun isn't lethal, and comic characters survive/evade explosives on a daily basis. If Ted can't handle two bombs and a cork then he doesn't deserve to be on the JSA >.>

I think Wildcat could probably take her.

@charlieboy said:

I think Wildcat could probably take her.

Harley Just doesn't come off as that competent to me.

@charlieboy: She's deadlier than she seems.

@Joygirl: Don't get me wrong. I like Harley Quinn a lot. I just think Wildcat with his experience has a solid chance of beating her. As for the competent remark she just always seems to rely on other characters a lot like the Joker or Ivy.

@charlieboy: That's a psychological thing... she does just fine without them (actually, she seems to do much better when she isn't playing sidekick).

@charlieboy said:

@Joygirl: Don't get me wrong. I like Harley Quinn a lot. I just think Wildcat with his experience has a solid chance of beating her. As for the competent remark she just always seems to rely on other characters a lot like the Joker or Ivy.

What has wildcat done that would give him the win over Harley?

@Joygirl: That is true. I enjoyed her solo series.

@jashro44: Sheer experience and has fought plenty of superhumans before in his time in the JSA.

I think Ted wins. He was able to take on Hawkman(mind controlled at the time)

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Pure h2h, I give it to Ted. But under these conditions, Harley.

Harley wins with 1 day of prep.

@Joygirl: maybe with the right prep but harley is in no way stronger then Ted his hits could hurt hawkman in H2h harley gets dominated the same way bats dose but she may take it with prep

@ColdShot: There is no shame in being weaker than Harley.

Harley due to weaponry.

@joeagentofhand1:

Here.

@charlieboy said:

@jashro44: Sheer experience and has fought plenty of superhumans before in his time in the JSA.

Which meta humans has he fought with similar stats to Harley?

@joeagentofhand1 said:

I think Ted wins. He was able to take on Hawkman(mind controlled at the time)

http://i378.photobucket.com/albums/...cat92/35-13.jpg

http://i378.photobucket.com/albums/...cat92/35-14.jpg

http://i378.photobucket.com/albums/...cat92/36-11.jpg

http://i378.photobucket.com/albums/...cat92/36-12.jpg

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This is a very impressive feat. Taking the arrow to the shoulder is very impressive showing of pain tolerance and he does show some nice agility. All though that said we don't have anything to compare it to with Harley as she has never fought hawkman. Also hawkman and Harley are two different characters. Harley is a acrobat so there is a difference between fighting her and a flyer. Not to mention her hammer is a different form of damage then an arrow and I would think it would be a lot more powerful and more damaging.

I think Wildcat is a little bit overrated here. Selina kinda sorta beat him and I think Harley has a decent shot too.

@jashro44: Not necessarily similar stats but ones that spring to mind are Killer Wasp, Tigress, Icicle.

@charlieboy: I don't think killer wasp and icicle are similar from what I gathered on there comicvine page all though Tigress might be. She doesn't sound like she has the same physicals as Harley however. What has Tigress done?

He beat most of the Injustice Society by himself in JSA 10 I believe. He has fought Killer Crock. He has also fought several of his teammates including Flash during various mind control fiascos.

@charlieboy said:

He beat most of the Injustice Society by himself in JSA 10 I believe. He has fought Killer Crock. He has also fought several of his teammates including Flash during various mind control fiascos.

Seems like weird writing he would beat the injustice society by himself. Don't they pose challenges to the actual justice society? Harley has beaten killer croc as well, I can upload scans, And IIRC when he fought Jay Garrick, Jay let him punch him and was holding back. Unless you are talking about a different incident.

@charlieboy: Harley beat Killer Croc.

@jashro44: All i really recall about Tigress is fighting Hawkgirl a few times and she is a marksman. I am pretty sure Jay and Ted have clashed more than once but I don't remember issue. I do know that he fought the Vixen before who would probably be more powerful than Harley. I am just saying Ted has a shot here.

@Joygirl: So has Huntress and Robin I believe.

@charlieboy: So has Aaron Cash and Harvey Dent. Beating KC is nothing special.

@Joygirl: exacly but the strength advantage Wildcat has is ovbious she beat killer crock big deal shes not much with out that hammer wild cat on the other hand with his bare knuckles can do this and speaking of killer crock

@Joygirl: I know. Most of the batclan has beat him.

@ColdShot: Harley didn't use her hammer to beat Croc. She used bowling equipment and her hands. She has enhanced human strength, past peak. She could do a handstand on one finger.

Ted routinely beats his son who has catlike powers.

Ted has 9 lives, she has 1.

@Joygirl: wild cats beating tougher people then that plus him with help hes even beat grundy

@ColdShot: Grundy is the biggest jobber on earth. He is such a big jobber DC had to explain his powers as being malleable specifically so that he can job to everyone equally.

Harley has agility higher than Catwoman as seen in Hush, and is arguably more acrobatic than Nightwing. She was able to break bowling pins into sharp spikes and throw them into Killer Croc like daggers.

@ColdShot: Also:

@Joygirl: i highly doubt she is better then nightwing that argument would be very one sided and she probablly is a better acrobat but ted dosent need to use that hand to hand is his thing no wepons and is the best boxer in dcu harley wouldent last in hand to hand

@ColdShot: I never said she would. It is pretty obvious that in a boxing match, the world's greatest boxer would win. That's why Harley will be bouncing around like a lunatic with her mallet, trying to flatten Ted while he goes for a right cross.

@Joygirl: scans will show crazy feats like this

Harley might win with prep, if she was given 2 or more hours of prep, then she for sure would win.

@Joygirl: and i thought thats what you ment harley will win with prep but i dont think she could beat him with out it my reasons are the scans not only shown by me but others

@ColdShot: So, either he somehow blindsided Jay, Jay let Ted hit him, or that is the number 1 biggest pile of PIS I have ever seen in my entire life.

@Joygirl: my point with that was anybody can show a random scan and thats not the only time he has cuaght a flash eather but where i was going with that was just becuase one impressive scan is shown dosent mean it should be part of the character and always used in his defence if so i could use that scan and others i mentioned in evrey wild cat argument

@ColdShot: Well, I refrained from her taking on Big Barda -- I am sticking with the feats that work for her.

E.g., taking out Killer Croc, Two-Face, Catwoman, Joker, Batman, Poison Ivy (via psychological warfare but still). Harley has damn near laid the smackdown on the entire Batverse.

@Joygirl: When did she actually defeat Batman?