Who's Stronger: Fat Thor or Ragnarok Thor?

oh look another thread that has been done more than your mom

Ragnarok Thor.

I know more then the directors about their movie too

Director statements suck tho, they said the leviathan was 3,000,000 tons and it didn't even go through a couple of skyscraper floors smh.

Mysterio

Fat Thor

You know a skyscraper is built to withstand three million tons because that is how much it weighs.

The one that actually uses his lightning.

It didn't even go past the first floor. If I dropped three million tons on a skyscraper you actually think it would suffer only one floor of damage? Smh nick zambuto, I expect more from you. And 3,000,000 tons would be like 9 empire state buildings, that absolutely dwarfs the size of the leviathan shown.

1. That was a writer, whose probably had literally nothing to do with showing the Leviathan not destroying the building, whereas a destroyer would have something to do with that.
2. That's a lot less of a relevant detail then how powerful Thor was at the end of Endgame, it's clear(from their statement) that the Russos meant for Thor to be stronger then ever at the end of Endgame, iirc they even said it was going to be IW Thor but Chris wanted to stay fat.

The Russos suck too smh. They think Hulk would stomp Cull despite the fact that Cull was smacking up the Hulkbuster. And by that logic i am going to start using jurgens statement Of Superman being a million times stronger than odinson.

And I'll start using Jurgens of Thor beating Superman. Anyway, that's besides the point because this is the Russos talking about their movie, their word is law. If they think Hulk can stomp Cull(this is crazy, characters can grow in power), then Hulk does. Literally every feat in IW and Endgame is just the Russos thinking that. Their opinion matters a lot more to me on this then anyone on CV.

If feats directly contradict statements then statement sucks. And the russos aren't all knowledgeable gods. I doubt they can even name a single comic Hulk Thanos or Thor feat.

It's literally their movie, in terms of their movie, they are all knowledgeable gods(they literally made it), hence the term "word of god and why would I give a shit about whether they can name a single Hulk Thanos or Thor feat

fat thor was confirmed to be the strongest, though I don't how since IW thor was still in shape and should be logically his prime

Beginning of Ragnarok Thor<Fat Thor<End of Ragnarok Thor

@giojoestar: when was that stated?

@kalkent:

If feats directly contradict statements then statement sucks

which Fat Thor feat directly contradicts the idea that he was at his best btw?

@alextheboss: russo brothers did a AmA post on the marvel studios subreddit and they stated this

@giojoestar: What was the question that they answered? Because they could be in reference as strength as a character, rather than raw power.

Strongest to weakest versions of Thor, from what I've seen.

IW Thor > Ragnarok Awakened Thor > Fat Thor > Phase 1 Thor > Phase 2 Thor

why is phase 2 the worst?

@immoralimmortal:

Ragnarok Thor was IW Thor without stormbreaker I think they're both very close with a slight edge to Ragnarok. Ragnarok Thor makes much more use of his lightning and was a smarter fighter (disorientated Thanos with lightning and summoned huge lightning storms) while Fat Thor was bloodlusted to stupidity and chose to fight Thanos cqc

Fat Thor is strongest.

Silly to think otherwise.

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In universe his mom helped with his mental, and the extra pounds don’t matter to this particular hero.

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On the vine he is also strongest. Fat Thor carries his IW feats, Ragnarok Thor doesn’t.

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If they were both stand alone movies, then maybe you could believe Ragnarok Thor was stronger, but judging a ten year in the making character by only his feats in a team up movie is sophistic logic.

its pretty obvious if you compare his combat scenes.

the only impressive feat he've done in Phase 2 is surviving the explosion of Sokovia.

@death4bunnies: Agree with you that Fat Thor is capable of IW's feats but he sure doesn't use them in combat. He fights like a viking more than a god

In IW, he summonded a large storm in seconds and had lightning surrounding buildings worth of area around him. He blasted Thanos with a SB blast. Lightning Cloak is a meme by now, but it was present and certainly made killing fodder easier.

In character fat thor is worse than Iw thor, if they're both only with SB. Though bloodlusted and fighting to their best, EG would be better because of mjolnir and feat overlap

That quote can easily be interpreted as mental strength/willpower, and it makes infinitely more sense to interpret it that way, all things considered.

OT: Ragnarok Thor probably. There’s basically no difference between him and IW Thor given the timeline.

@kryptonianking88:

Fair points, but I think his lightning cloak was used in endgame, against fodder and once against Thanos.

He even got a good lightning manipulation feat by throwing fodder with sky lighting.

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He could still fly, and Eg fat Thor went for the head twice in his opening moves against Thanos, ones with Mjolnir, then with Stormbreaker.

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I agree he fought like a Viking tho, he definitely seemed more grounded.

Fat Thor's Stormbreaker was downgraded to the level of Mjolnir, and Ragnarok Thor was supposed to be on a whole other tier than Mjolnir.

Ragnarok is WAY stronger.

IW Thor > Ragnarok Thor > Fat Thor > Phase 1/2 Thor

If Fat Thor had Stormbreaker I would but him above Ragnarok Thor but still lower than IW Thor.

What?

Edit: What did u mean to say here?

For the thousandth time, EG Thor was Thor at his most powerful. The narrative supports this as well as the literal Russo Brothers. If you’re upset that he didn’t one shot Thanos and the army with his God lightning or put up any sort of fight against him, I’m sorry that you feel that way, maybe Thor isn’t as skilled as he should be in verse, but that doesn’t change the reality of the situation. The Thor that got bodied by Thanos is the most powerful version. If the Russo Brothers said Thor smacked away an asteroid, that would be spammed all on the threads regarding his strength. Either they're liars or they're reliable. It can’t go back and forth because of what you agree with.

Weight doesn’t mean anything as Odin himself had always been fat and he was KING Of Asgard with the power to match. His weight never slowed him down in any sense. Thor being fat has nothing to do with his god stats or abilities. He was in fact, the most powerful version in EG, the ONLY argument here is that he wasn’t powerful enough to everyone’s liking. That’s it.

They're just the same. Fat Thor would win with SB though.

There is no such skyscraper that is actually 3 million tons, thats just absurd since the most ever it has been is only 200k or 300k tons. Even so its only ever built to support its own weight, a few thousand tons added it would probably collapse.

Fat Thot as per word of god and not people online thinking a few pounds of fat would do anything to a superhuman Alien god warrior.

@devoidruby: who now?

@catlike:

I’ll find the directors statement, but basically Frigga told Thor 'You're OK. You're a f--- up, and you're OK.”

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Thor was feeling like a failure; he was in a emotionally bad place. His mom(according to the director) snapped him out of it when he met her on Asgard.

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By the time Thor faced endgame Thanos, he was back to being a warrior. He was still worthy in his mother’s eyes (the frigga conversation) and he was also still worthy in his fathers eyes (Mjolnir returned to him).

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I don’t think the extra pounds made a difference once Thor got his mind right.

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Fat duel wielding Thor, is prime Thor.

@death4bunnies: I see, I'm not sure if I agree with everything you said but thanks for explaining!

EG Thor is his peak.

Two hammers, full abilities awakened, ready to kill from the start of the fight.

@kalkent: when did anyone say that lmao? 3 MILLION TONS?

Found it... he says "no clue" before giving a random number.

Thor in Endgame was fighting Thanos decently, Ragnarok Thor was nearly beaten to death, as shown by the start of Infinity War.

Fat Thor is PRIME Thor

Yea except you believe thor beats superman because he outclasses him in every category but speed while Jurgens believes it because of the magic weakness, so...

Too bad many hulk boys ran with that random number.

Fat Thor is the Prime Thor

Ok, but Jurgens still says that Thor beats Superman. You can't just take part of a quote. Besides, if it was just Jurgens Thor and Jurgens Superman, then I'd agree sure, it's his decision, but he's not the Ultimate Authority on Comic Thor and Superman, meanwhile the Russos are the Ultimate Authority on Thor in Endgame.

Yea but jurgens doesn't say thor would stomp superman like you have. And the russos contradict each other with every single statement, you can't accept what they say as complete fact. And to your earlier point, not knowing anything about comic feats shows that they have no idea about the characters they are directing.