Who's smarter, Batman or Ironman?

Batman is smarter with plans and ideas but ironman's smart with building

Batman is the better martial artist, he's better with people and he's a top detective all skills Tony does not really have
 
but when it comes to science and inventions Tony owns Batman
I mean stomps
In the 60s he's building his own satellites, making his own suit that flies in space and under water, building repulsor blasters, drones, uni-beam, electron guns, spaceships that fly FTL in outer space
Batman has what? A batcar? Gas bombs? Batarangs?
 
In the 80s Tony Stark owns most of the major military contracts around the globe, 
While Batman is a lot more impressive he's got nothing on Tony, he's making all kinds of products from bullet proof cars to missile launchers, he can teleport, gots all kinds of sensors and shields,. his Ironman suits have camoflague, stealth, Tony is building sentinels, Tony has his hands everywhere. Tony is building life support system for the space stations and he's a keeper of one of the Infinity Gems 
 
2000-
Tony is almost more than Superman, almost more than Bat can ever be, almost "god from the machine" he's got Extremis, building Thor Buster to take on the most mighty mystical being from Asgard, his nano  bots can re-grow damaged tissue, himself and Reed are cloning Thunder Gods like Thor, he can re-write any software,  he's almost unkillable and a dangerous technopath who can virus people and hack into any machine
Of course Ironman has now been disassembled and de-powered but even if we go back to his 1980s levels he still owns Batman

" Batman is the better martial artist, he's better with people and he's a top detective all skills Tony does not really have  but when it comes to science and inventions Tony owns Batman I mean stomps In the 60s he's building his own satellites, making his own suit that flies in space and under water, building repulsor blasters, drones, uni-beam, electron guns, spaceships that fly FTL in outer space Batman has what? A batcar? Gas bombs? Batarangs?  In the 80s Tony Stark owns most of the major military contracts around the globe,  While Batman is a lot more impressive he's got nothing on Tony, he's making all kinds of products from bullet proof cars to missile launchers, he can teleport, gots all kinds of sensors and shields,. his Ironman suits have camoflague, stealth, Tony is building sentinels, Tony has his hands everywhere. Tony is building life support system for the space stations and he's a keeper of one of the Infinity Gems   2000- Tony is almost more than Superman, almost more than Bat can ever be, almost "god from the machine" he's got Extremis, building Thor Buster to take on the most mighty mystical being from Asgard, his nano  bots can re-grow damaged tissue, himself and Reed are cloning Thunder Gods like Thor, he can re-write any software,  he's almost unkillable and a dangerous technopath who can virus people and hack into any machineOf course Ironman has now been disassembled and de-powered but even if we go back to his 1980s levels he still owns Batman "

Yeah AdamWest probably wins with Anti-Ironman spray
 
but every other Batman dies

" Yeah AdamWest probably wins with Anti-Ironman spray
 but every other Batman dies "

why did you role around in that toxic waste?
i was trying to get super powers like the griffen family...
that was stupid

" @OhTru said:

" Yeah AdamWest probably wins with Anti-Ironman spray
 but every other Batman dies "

ADAM WEST FTW "

If both men teamed up, they could stand against The One Above All with ease. =p

Iron Man hands down.

They're both geniuses in their own fields. Batman is an excellent detective, being able to deduct instantly. Whilst Iron Man is a brilliant inventor, being able to create satellite defense systems.  Wait a second, but Batman did build Brother Eye. 

"Iron Man hands down. "

" @Vance Astro said:

"Iron Man hands down. "

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" @The Mjolnir Wielder said:

" @Vance Astro said:

"Iron Man hands down. "

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From a scientific and engineering standpoint Iron Man
In terms of wit and battle smarts Batman

" From a scientific and engineering standpoint Iron Man In terms of wit and battle smarts Batman "

" They're both geniuses in their own fields. Batman is an excellent detective, being able to deduct instantly. Whilst Iron Man is a brilliant inventor, being able to create satellite defense systems.  Wait a second, but Batman did build Brother Eye.  "

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Stark would finish a Suduko puzzle first and Wayne would finish a crossword first. imo

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" Batman is the better martial artist, he's better with people and he's a top detective all skills Tony does not really have  but when it comes to science and inventions Tony owns Batman I mean stomps In the 60s he's building his own satellites, making his own suit that flies in space and under water, building repulsor blasters, drones, uni-beam, electron guns, spaceships that fly FTL in outer space Batman has what? A batcar? Gas bombs? Batarangs?  In the 80s Tony Stark owns most of the major military contracts around the globe,  While Batman is a lot more impressive he's got nothing on Tony, he's making all kinds of products from bullet proof cars to missile launchers, he can teleport, gots all kinds of sensors and shields,. his Ironman suits have camoflague, stealth, Tony is building sentinels, Tony has his hands everywhere. Tony is building life support system for the space stations and he's a keeper of one of the Infinity Gems   2000- Tony is almost more than Superman, almost more than Bat can ever be, almost "god from the machine" he's got Extremis, building Thor Buster to take on the most mighty mystical being from Asgard, his nano  bots can re-grow damaged tissue, himself and Reed are cloning Thunder Gods like Thor, he can re-write any software,  he's almost unkillable and a dangerous technopath who can virus people and hack into any machineOf course Ironman has now been disassembled and de-powered but even if we go back to his 1980s levels he still owns Batman "

" why did you role around in that toxic waste? i was trying to get super powers like the griffen family... that was stupid "

tony is good with making things go BOOM and all things engineering related. Batman has developed cures for people, raised two great detectives in barbara and dick, he has smarts to survive encounters with beings like Darkseid. Even though Bats wasnt my fave superhero. I gotta admit I havent seen any other superhero smarter than him. Mind u he does fight without a powersuit most the times.

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Stark would finish a Suduko puzzle first and Wayne would finish a crossword first. imo

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batman because he is an incredible tactical genius. Ironman is able to determine th future through futurist thinking and reading trends in the populace of the given time. Makes him an assumptionist. things dont always go as planned, even for stark. batman however reacts to situation adapts and overcomes the possibilites for the future. Iron man tried to have contingency plans for all the heroes and villains because he trusted nobody. Batmans plans in the same trend worked because batman knows not just how to dtermine a plan for  the future, react to a situation, but also to read and mentally be able to profile anyone of significance that might affect the future, and how based on their psychological patterns that he can read as the worlds greatest detective. And... batman knows how to use the gifts more subtley, rather than displaying starks thirst for power, so he can set things right. batman will never try to take higher power unless it is given to him, because he knows in that instant he will have started down a path of no return. he is not an inventor like stark, but he be if NEEDED to be to survive, and to make sure good+his friends survived.

I think both are arguably among the smartest of human of their respected comic universe IMO Bruce for DC and Tony for Marvel(I know there's a few others you can say such as Lex and Dr. Doom and Reed etc) but for this thread, I think Bruce is smarter overall by a little bit IMO but mainly with prep, fighting skills, detective stuff etc, etc And Tony more with technological gigs. :) Both are pretty damn good with prep time so that's a tough one.

Iron Man checkmated Reed Richards so there is your answer. But Bats is better with crime science and the broad spectrum of detective stuff

Ironman able to build advance technology for him self
batman ever build a satelite which able to watch over entire hero in earth
both of them are very genius but i will choose batman because he is a very genius in tactic and fighting( his fighting skill is got from the skilled martial art man live in mountain like tibet )

Batman I like more, very smart character

" @The Mjolnir Wielder said:

" @Vance Astro said:

"Iron Man hands down. "

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Tony Stark is more intelligent overall. Bruce Wayne is however more competent in specific fields like criminal studies.

When I say intelligent, I'm referring to mental functions. Such as memory, processing speed, pattern recognition abilities, creativity, logical thinking skills (ability to arrive at conclusions), memory recalling speed, calculation speed, solution finding speed, analytical abilities (breaking complex problems down into understandable chunks) and etc.

The difference between Tony Stark and Bruce Wayne is that Tony Stark, being arguably a superior engineer, has developed technology to enhance / augment / amplify his physical & mental abilities. His physical abilities were enhanced by using exoskeleton armors. His mental abilities were enhanced by using brain - computer interfaces. Overall, Tony Stark improved his physical and mental capabilities far quicker, more efficiently and more effectively than Bruce Wayne.

Bruce Wayne on the other hand, had to work significantly harder to improve his abilities, mental and physical. His path to improving himself was less efficient, (arguably) less effective and more time consuming. That alone is one reason why Tony Stark is more intelligent. Which is because he discovered how to improve his abilities in a more efficient, quicker and a more effective way and managed to execute it whilst Bruce Wayne had to do everything the harder way because he wasn't as intelligent as Tony Stark.

The main difference between Tony Stark and Bruce Wayne in their quest of improving their abilities is that Tony Stark worked smarter whilst Bruce Wayne worked harder. It's like the difference between moving a heavy object with a machine and moving the same object with your bare hands. The result is the same. The methods are different. Using a machine to move the heavy object is quicker, more efficient and more effective. On the other hand, moving the object with your bare hands is slower, less effective and less efficient. Tony Stark improved his abilities in the former way, using technology and machines to enhance is mental and physical abilities. On the contrary, Bruce Wayne improved his abilities the latter way. He had to physically go out there and learn everything manually.

In summary, Tony Stark can intellectually perform anything that Bruce Wayne could. He could achieve those intellectual feats quicker, more efficiently and more effectively. Learning 127 martial arts? He could download them into his computer aided brain. Which is quicker than going out there like bruce Wayne and having to manually learn them. Solving logical puzzles / problems / riddles? He could just ask JARVIS to do it for him. Again, more efficient than Bruce Wayne having to manually solve them.

These are the main reasons why Batman is a street level character whilst Tony Stark is above that.

Also, all of this makes Tony Stark a more realistic character than Bruce Wayne in my opinion. It's easier to suspend my belief if Tony Stark manages to learn 127 martial arts by downloading them into his computer aided brain using futuristic advanced technology and improving his overall mental capacity to superhuman levels. That's because it's believable that one day, our real world technology could advance to that level, considering how previous science fiction technology became a reality.

However, it's far less believable and far more difficult to suspend belief that a normal human, in this case Bruce Wayne could manually master 127 martial arts in only a decade and be pretty much an expert in almost every field whilst learning everything manually. It's self contradictory because one can't call Batman 'non - superhuman' when he is able to achieve such feats manually, which require superhuman intellect. No non-superhuman human could ever master that many martial arts in one lifetime, let alone in a decade whilst also mastering all the other fields. Brain operating at normal human levels would never allow a human to learn as much in such a limited time. However, if someone had truly superhuman intellect, someone like Superman and he managed to learn 127 martial arts in that span of time and became an expert in all these other fields, then it'd make more sense. My main problem lies in the fact that Batman is classified as a non - superhuman superhero, yet accomplishes mental and physical feats that only super humans could achieve. Thus, by classification, Batman is contradictory.

At least Iron man is known as a superhuman, so him accomplishing those feats aren't contradictory like Batman is.

Subjective

in what areas are we talking? if it's in robotics i gotta go with Tony.

Batman's better in...

• detective skills
• forensics
• human mind and psyche

Tony is better in...

• building technology
• robotics and AI
• Womanizing

Batman is the better strategist and detective, while Tony is the better engineer by far.

Depends on what field we're comparing them in.

Tony, more often than not.

Stark

If we are talking about engineering . Stark stomp.

If we are talking about who is more smart ( not getting fooled by other, figuring out plans, puzzles etc etc) Batgod stomp.

well for me i think batman is more smart.

1. because is a good tactician, Engineer, Detective, have learned criminal psychology, Good at figuring out other plans .

2, while Tony is good at engineering. and that's it.

Batman by a small margin. Their both the top minds of their universes but batman is a master in nearly every scientific field.

I'd say Tony wins in sheer IQ points, but Bruce has a more well-rounded knowledge base.

Tony should be smarter

Wits detective skills and strategies - Batman

Engineering, robotics, and science - tony

Stark is much smarter.

Reed stomps both

@nerevarine_11: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^What He Said^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

It's well established that Batman outsmarts Iron Man when it comes to tactical, analytical, psychological, deductive intelligences. Not to mention the endless knowledge he amassed, including martial arts and physical capabilities. Yes, that's a form of intelligence too.

Batman clearly has the vast upper hand in bodily-kinesthetic and interpersonal intelligence.

Logical-mathematical though, is of course where Tony shines. One of the most brilliant inventors in the world, outshined maybe only by Reed Richards, Von Doom, and Hank Pym.

But I also feel like people underestimate Bruce's inventive and scientific capabilities too? I'm not saying Bruce can out-invent or out-science Tony. Definitely not.

But one must recognize that Batsy has a lot more tech and science than just "batarangs and gas bombs" like what OhTru and many others believe. He has armed himself with tech capable of going up against aliens, monsters, Superman himself, the entire Justice League, and even against Darkseid.

In conclusion, when it comes to tactical, analytical, psychological, deductive intelligences, Batman outclasses Tony straight up 10/10. However when it comes to technology and science, Iron Man wins by maybe 7/10 at best. One could argue for 8/10, I guess?

With a basic comparison, I would like to draw a conlusion that Batman is overall smarter than Iron Man.

I'm open to being proven otherwise by a valid argument (that doesn't involve personal insults and attacks).

I'd also agree that Tony is smarter, but Batman is probably wiser. In context of doing superhero and normal person stuff. That said they both have some screws loose lol

I'd say Batman is more intelligent overall but Iron Man is stomps Batman in terms of inventions.

I'd say while Iron Man is more tech savvy, Batman is wiser and more resourceful

They're both massively tech savvy and massively resourceful, but Batman is definitely without question the wiser of the 2. It's hard to say who is overall "smarter" though.

Imagine if they teamed up...

Enough of the "they are smarter in different categories" thing. That's just what people say about the character with worse intelligence feats to make up for the fact that the character they are arguing against has a vastly superior intellect. Who cares if Batman has mastered martial arts and has displayed better detective skills? If you look at raw I.Q. and straight intelligence Stark is overall superior. Talking about different categories and subcategories of expertise is not the question. Some might think "it's not that simple because there are different forms of intelligence and blah blah blah", but it seemed "that simple" for Reed when he admitted that he was only fractionally smarter than Tony:

...but he then goes on to say that Tony is a better multitasker than him. He doesn't say, "I'm smarter than Tony in exploration and inventing, but he's smarter than me in multitasking and engineering". No. Intelligence is intelligence. He's smarter than Tony and that's the end of the discussion. It is as simple as having a higher IQ than someone else. Mentioning fields that Batman is better at than Tony is just what biased in-denial Batman fans do to cope with Tony being smarter. Just excuses.

There are no sources to site either of there IQ. If there was, this thread likely wouldn't exist. No need to get so mad about it

@noone1996: @criostomp:

Cmom lol. These are fictional characters from different universes. How do you expect to have a detailed bio data of their IQ??

Only way to vaguely estimate their smartness is through scans or creations.

I would strongly say The Extremis is superior to Wayne Tech.

Conclusion: Stark is smarter in terms of technology.

As far as tactics go, probably Bruce.

Define 'intelligence'!