Who's High-End Feats Are Wanked More: NWH Spider-Men or MoM Wanda?

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Spider-Man dodged lightnings, and Wanda reality warped in-combat. If you don't want to accept Spider-Man dodging lightnings consistently in his general RT because he was slower in all of his other feats or cloud-to- ground lightning being faster than Electro's, that's another story.

IW Spidey

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NWH has very few high ends and I don’t even see them being brought up in debate. Wanda has one - the darkhold feat - and I don’t see anyone using it

Someone's salty.

@heiqn: dodging lightning is easy with spidey sense. it'd be different if someone like cap dodged lightning. peter dodging lightning is not a speed feat, it's Spidey sense

Didn’t electro miss against the peters?

Because it isn't combat applicable although it's a multiversal feat.

Wow, what a battle

@imdabestatthis4: Before trying to obtain America's power by herself, she was able to conjure demons across the universe plus possessing her variant from another universe.

@imdabestatthis4: on god, preach

@darkrealm: yes in her pursuit to become multiversal. wanda's whole thing is that she deludes herself with her own powers by reality warping kids into pseudo-existence. when she found out she could have this as a reality apart from her powers she sought multiversal power. because she wasn't multiversal

@fanonfanboy:

Wanda only needed to travel the multiverse to reach to her kids because she couldn't travel the multiverse physically therefore she had to use the dark-hold to hop through universes using astral projection/Dream walk. Her Dark-hold enhances the evidence.

@darkrealm: So she's multiversal because of this?

@fanonfanboy:

I think we have different view points on what makes one multiversal. Being multiversal doesn't equate Wanda to having to blow up shit on a multiversal scale. If she's able to extend her powers to different universes (Multiversal Range doesn't apply when possessing variants) I don't see why she wouldn't be.

@darkrealm: Wanda uses the Darkhold to gain access to powers she wouldn't otherwise have. Just because she gained the darkhold doesn't mean she moved up to multiversal. A multiversal being implies someone who operates on a multiversal scale, and isn't limited to needing other resources like a darkhold to sustain that multiversal ability(ies)

@imdabestatthis4: Pretty sure everything you listed has context to it. Applying logic from a different verse has no correlation or relevance to another. I think both of you are misinterpreting my view on what makes one person multiversal.

@fanonfanboy: First and foremost the Dark-hold doesn't enhance/Amplify Wanda's powers if that's where your getting to, and second she only needed the dark-hold to Astral Project in another universe. She didn't need the dark-hold once she learned the spell. It was stated in Wanda-vision by Agatha that there's a whole chapter that's devoted to the Scarlet Witch about her abilities. Wanda isn't very experienced with her powers so of course she'd read the Dark-hold to further enhance her knowledge on the Scarlet Witches power.

@darkrealm: I wasn't implying that. You are arguing semantics. If I ask Marvel™ to give me one multiversal character they are not going to say MoM Wanda.

@fanonfanboy: Agree to disagree then.

death4bunnies is your answer.

1. Not a battle.

2. Spider-Men without question. MCU Peter struggled to catch a van in the suburbs but he is wanked to consistently relativistic.

@TheGrat1: I agree that Spider Man is wanked beyond belief, but using the argument you used is not fair. That is travel speed you are talking about. Not reaction speed.

Still don't buy lightning speed Spider-Man as much as Wanda warping much powerful beings like Surtur.

Spider-Man it ain’t even close he’s still slightly above a Super soldier level he’d lose to guys like Black Panther though since he has the energy absorbing suit…

Why not? I mean it seems like he is a lighting timer.

I agree with this. Any MCU witch could have used the dark hold as Wanda did, and no one would call them multiversal. Strange and Wong would not have been able to recognize the demon summoning as witchcraft if Wanda was the first person in history to be able to do it.

Wanda wank is way more over the top.

There’s no contest.

Reaction times in terms of perception are pointless if you can not move your body fast enough to make use of them. A character needs movement speed relative to what they are reacting to in order to make use of it. A human could have higher reaction times than comic Flash but if they still only have the body of a normal human they will not dodge a bullet at close range. The Spider-Men are not simply said to react to electricity but to move relative to it even while jumping.

This is a perfect example:

Timestamp: 12:16

The character has been drugged to have reaction times so far beyond his body's ability to move that it takes forever even for his own movements to occur. This is what would happen if the Spider-Men were not relativistic in movement (calling it traversal is kind of pointless, the Spiders can not fly and have supposedly dodged and outpaced electricity by jumping or contorting their body. Peter can, and did, jump after the van and he still struggled to catch it), they would see the electricity coming and still hitting them because anything lightspeed would cross combat distances in less time than it took for the neurons in their brain to fire.

We have had plenty of scenes of them encountering Electro's attacks and it moves relative to non supersonic things (like freefall) pretty consistently.

Wanda

Even though the movie itself describes her as a Multiversal conqueror, she didn't seem that strong to me.

@imdabestatthis4 said:

@ccbm2208 said:

Wanda wank is way more over the top.

There’s no contest.

at least the shit they say about wanda is believable if not out right bullshit

spider-man fanboys have no redeeming quality but i find it hilarous how one of the most well known dceu trolls who claim spiderman stomps dceu characters are here now whining about said spiderman wank

Saying Spider Man hits near as hard as Superman (although incorrect) is still not nearly as dumb as saying plasma goes light speed.

@imdabestatthis4: Or maybe he did not have an answer because it was a dumb statement. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Something that you have a lot of experience with.

People think Thanos vs NWH Spider-men is arguable. What do you think?

@ben2004: Nobody seriously believes Spider Man is Superman or Thanos tier. Just wankers.

@imdabestatthis6: You wanna CaV the anchor thing that you are so butthurt about, or do you wanna go back to trolling and spamming porn?

Nobody said that, but he likes to put words in people mouths as usual. He also believes I said Steve Rogers is stronger than Wonder Woman, not like Diana isn't that pathetic that it's impossible to create arguments for Cap. But it doesn't change it's a lie. Imagine being so butthurt because your mid tier character getting destroyed by Green Goblin & Spider-Man etc 😝😝😝

Spider-Man by far.

@krisbishop Ta-Er is back from his vacation and he's insulting mods 😝😝

@heiqn: Yeah. Of course. What he does is take a quote you made out of context, and try to use it to make you look bad. It does not change the fact that today he said plasma is FTL. LOL

Blackspidey unironically believes that. No offense to him but still, that's pretty funny.

@ccbm2208: Who is Black Spidey?