Who punches harder - DCEU Zod or MCU Kurse?

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Poll Who punches harder - DCEU Zod or MCU Kurse? (121 votes)

Zod 70%
Kurse 30%
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If you consider the tie in novel as Canon then Zod stomps, if you don't then kurse slightly edges it.

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The problem with the MCU is they have absolutely bonkers power scaling. It's insanely inconsistent. But Zod's quantifiable feats are definitely above Kurse's iirc

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I would say Kurse.

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@kalkent:

What did Zod do in the tie in novel?

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What did Zod do in the tie in novel?

He was hurting Clark badly with punches to the point where Clark was bleeding very heavily.

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#8 cocacolaman  Moderator

It's a very close call. I'd say Zod barely.

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@kalkent:

Yes I remember. The novel specifically stated just how powerful their blows were but they were also getting bruised and bloodied.

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Another one of those. Zod obviously. One uppercut of him sent clark to the top of a skyrscrapper and this is a guy that can no sell batmobile running into him at full speed.

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#13 takenstew22  Moderator

Zod.

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Zod and it’s not close. They were punching each other hundreds of yards through buildings at super high speeds causing extensive environmental damage in the process; Kurse has nothing on that level.

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@tonymartial:

Rewatch the fight at .25 playback speed. You can clearly see Superman won the bullrush and flew Zod into the building. I mean, even the camera angle supports this.

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The statements in the Novel were pretty crazy and would put Zod much higher than Kurse. Making Superman bleed and his kicks being strong enough to send an Iron safe into orbit. Based on the movies, I would still put Zod above Kurse. He seemed roughly on par with Superman, and I can't imagine Superman not putting down Thor in as many hits as Kurse landed on Thor.

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Rewatch the fight at .25 playback speed. You can clearly see Superman won the bullrush and flew Zod into the building. I mean, even the camera angle supports this.

This is true but doesn't make sense considering Superman was the one who got put on his ass by this collision.

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@kalkent:

I know it was weird. It looks like Superman flew him into the first building, Zod somehow reversed the positioning in there and threw Superman into the next building, using Superman’s momentum against him or just straight up throwing him.

Not taking anything away from Zod but that feat flew on this site for a while and it was misconstrued.

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@eredin12: i know zod is stronger than that. But just that feat alone is visually more impressive than anything thanos has done in his entire mcu career.

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Zod

Kurse is very overrated

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@eri123 said:

Kurse

Do you think Kurse can casually knee a safe into orbit?

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@kalkent: Don't know but neither can Zod.

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@eri123: It’s funny because Zod doesn’t even need that feat to be better than Kurse in striking.

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@eri123 said:

\ Don't know but neither can Zod.

The canon tie in novel literally stated his knee could send a safe into orbit if he wanted to.

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@kalkent: Just a statement,didn't the novel say that Zod was making Superman bleed which didn't happen in the movie.

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#31  Edited By Erkan12

Kurse's fist is not as large as Hulk's fist or Thanos' fist iirc. It's still a regular size punch like Zod's punch. Kurse has better raw strength, but Zod's raw speed bullrush gives him a slight advantage here.

Though Hulk and Thanos definitely hits harder than Zod due to their enhanced reflexes + better super strength and larger size advantage.

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@eri123 said:

Just a statement,didn't the novel say that Zod was making Superman bleed which didn't happen in the movie.

The novel and movie are usually canon unless something in the movie contradicts it. The movie contradicted the Superman feat but never contradicted the lock safe feat.

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I mean, why does anyone care anymore?

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#34  Edited By Eri_Joni

@kalkent: But the lock safe feat is really not a feat,just a statement.Outlier too.

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@eri123 said:

But the lock safe feat is really not a feat,just a statement.Outlier too.

Why is it an outlier? Considering that Superman would have went way further than he did if he didn't bounce off the skyscraper, he is clearly capable of sending objects extreme distances.

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Kurse.

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Zod, but not by that large of a margin.

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#42  Edited By Nucleon

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@mr_shazam0920 said:

What did Zod do in the tie in novel?

He was hurting Clark badly with punches to the point where Clark was bleeding very heavily.

Makes more sense; Two beings of the same species (any species) can hurt and kill one another using but their hands/claws etc. It wasn't normal to see Kryptonians hit on one another for hours whitout even achieving a bruise. To those who say that it is a durability feat, I'll answer that it was done at the expense of their striking power. This and ridiculous knckback gives the impression they have rubber fists.

Maybe they didn't wanted blood at all for PG13's sake.

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Zod uppercutting Superman to the top of a skycrapper (would have been even higher had Superman not use his flight) > anything Kurse with his striking which wasn't much.

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Zod, Kurse struggled to put down Thor.

Using an off handed statement from a tie in novel that contradicts the movie is incredibly stupid tho.

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#46 anthp2000  Moderator

Zod hits harder with his speed, probably even w/o it.

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@kevd4wg said:

Zod, Kurse struggled to put down Thor.

Using an off handed statement from a tie in novel that contradicts the movie is incredibly stupid tho.

It didn't even contradict the movie in that part though.

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Kurse. The novel btw would no longer be canon once it contradicts the movie. That goes for the entire thing.

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#49  Edited By Nucleon

@kevd4wg said:

Zod, Kurse struggled to put down Thor.

Using an off handed statement from a tie in novel that contradicts the movie is incredibly stupid tho.

Well, Zod struggled a lot more to put down Superman. I don't believe Supes would have been able to deflect Mjolnir in flight.

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#50  Edited By Nucleon
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Lots of knockbacks, mach cones and collateral, but basically no damage to their foe, which is in the same precise state it was before the (mostly esthetic) punch. No "before & after" whatsoever. No game-changing strike for the Kryptonians to date.

The Emperor is naked, guys. He is naked and the Kryptonians' hitting power is mediocre. Not bad, just featless and mediocre, to the point where headcannon becomes a necessity.