Who punches harder - DCEU Zod or MCU Kurse?

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Posted by skywalker95 (5917 posts) 1 month, 5 days ago

Poll: Who punches harder - DCEU Zod or MCU Kurse? (83 votes)

Zod 66%
Kurse 34%
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#1 Posted by kalkent (3763 posts) - - Show Bio

If you consider the tie in novel as Canon then Zod stomps, if you don't then kurse slightly edges it.

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#2 Posted by AshKetchum93 (258 posts) - - Show Bio

The problem with the MCU is they have absolutely bonkers power scaling. It's insanely inconsistent. But Zod's quantifiable feats are definitely above Kurse's iirc

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#3 Posted by Mr_Shazam0920 (6044 posts) - - Show Bio

I would say Kurse.

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#4 Posted by Mr_Shazam0920 (6044 posts) - - Show Bio

@kalkent:

What did Zod do in the tie in novel?

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#5 Posted by kalkent (3763 posts) - - Show Bio

What did Zod do in the tie in novel?

He was hurting Clark badly with punches to the point where Clark was bleeding very heavily.

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#6 Posted by TonyMartial (10318 posts) - - Show Bio

#threadover

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#7 Posted by Mr_Shazam0920 (6044 posts) - - Show Bio
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#8 Posted by CocaColaMan (1747 posts) - - Show Bio

It's a very close call. I'd say Zod barely.

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#10 Posted by Mr_Shazam0920 (6044 posts) - - Show Bio

@kalkent:

Yes I remember. The novel specifically stated just how powerful their blows were but they were also getting bruised and bloodied.

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#11 Posted by Supermanforever (9823 posts) - - Show Bio

Another one of those. Zod obviously. One uppercut of him sent clark to the top of a skyrscrapper and this is a guy that can no sell batmobile running into him at full speed.

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#13 Posted by TakenStew22 (5881 posts) - - Show Bio

Zod.

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#14 Posted by nfactor1995 (13466 posts) - - Show Bio

Zod and it’s not close. They were punching each other hundreds of yards through buildings at super high speeds causing extensive environmental damage in the process; Kurse has nothing on that level.

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#15 Posted by Mr_Shazam0920 (6044 posts) - - Show Bio

@tonymartial:

Rewatch the fight at .25 playback speed. You can clearly see Superman won the bullrush and flew Zod into the building. I mean, even the camera angle supports this.

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#16 Posted by Karkus (1057 posts) - - Show Bio

The statements in the Novel were pretty crazy and would put Zod much higher than Kurse. Making Superman bleed and his kicks being strong enough to send an Iron safe into orbit. Based on the movies, I would still put Zod above Kurse. He seemed roughly on par with Superman, and I can't imagine Superman not putting down Thor in as many hits as Kurse landed on Thor.

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#17 Posted by kalkent (3763 posts) - - Show Bio

Rewatch the fight at .25 playback speed. You can clearly see Superman won the bullrush and flew Zod into the building. I mean, even the camera angle supports this.

This is true but doesn't make sense considering Superman was the one who got put on his ass by this collision.

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#18 Posted by Mr_Shazam0920 (6044 posts) - - Show Bio

@kalkent:

I know it was weird. It looks like Superman flew him into the first building, Zod somehow reversed the positioning in there and threw Superman into the next building, using Superman’s momentum against him or just straight up throwing him.

Not taking anything away from Zod but that feat flew on this site for a while and it was misconstrued.

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#19 Posted by Eredin12 (1368 posts) - - Show Bio

@kalkent:

Well that is not canon becase it contradicts move, but novels are completly canon as long as they do not contradict move and in novel Zod could send iron safe into orbit with a strike , even low earth orbit is 2000 kilometers, which is crazy, and that is canon to DCEU , it is not contradicted by move.

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#20 Posted by Eredin12 (1368 posts) - - Show Bio

@supermanforever:

Zod has much better feats than that, in a novel he could send iron safe into orbit with a strike and low earth orbit is 2000 kilometers and that is canon, it is not contradicted in a move

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#21 Posted by Supermanforever (9823 posts) - - Show Bio

@eredin12: i know zod is stronger than that. But just that feat alone is visually more impressive than anything thanos has done in his entire mcu career.

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#22 Posted by MarvelandDCfan24 (8235 posts) - - Show Bio

Zod

Kurse is very overrated

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#23 Posted by eri123 (7241 posts) - - Show Bio
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#24 Posted by eri123 (7241 posts) - - Show Bio

Kurse

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#25 Posted by kalkent (3763 posts) - - Show Bio

@eri123 said:

Kurse

Do you think Kurse can casually knee a safe into orbit?

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#26 Posted by eri123 (7241 posts) - - Show Bio

@kalkent: Don't know but neither can Zod.

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#27 Posted by nfactor1995 (13466 posts) - - Show Bio

@eri123: It’s funny because Zod doesn’t even need that feat to be better than Kurse in striking.

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#28 Posted by eri123 (7241 posts) - - Show Bio
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#29 Posted by kalkent (3763 posts) - - Show Bio

@eri123 said:

\ Don't know but neither can Zod.

The canon tie in novel literally stated his knee could send a safe into orbit if he wanted to.

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#30 Posted by eri123 (7241 posts) - - Show Bio

@kalkent: Just a statement,didn't the novel say that Zod was making Superman bleed which didn't happen in the movie.

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#31 Edited by Erkan12 (9497 posts) - - Show Bio

Kurse's fist is not as large as Hulk's fist or Thanos' fist iirc. It's still a regular size punch like Zod's punch. Kurse has better raw strength, but Zod's raw speed bullrush gives him a slight advantage here.

Though Hulk and Thanos definitely hits harder than Zod due to their enhanced reflexes + better super strength and larger size advantage.

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#32 Posted by kalkent (3763 posts) - - Show Bio

@eri123 said:

Just a statement,didn't the novel say that Zod was making Superman bleed which didn't happen in the movie.

The novel and movie are usually canon unless something in the movie contradicts it. The movie contradicted the Superman feat but never contradicted the lock safe feat.

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#33 Posted by CaptainSweatpan (3114 posts) - - Show Bio

I mean, why does anyone care anymore?

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#34 Edited by eri123 (7241 posts) - - Show Bio

@kalkent: But the lock safe feat is really not a feat,just a statement.Outlier too.

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#35 Posted by kalkent (3763 posts) - - Show Bio

@eri123 said:

But the lock safe feat is really not a feat,just a statement.Outlier too.

Why is it an outlier? Considering that Superman would have went way further than he did if he didn't bounce off the skyscraper, he is clearly capable of sending objects extreme distances.

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#36 Edited by Eredin12 (1368 posts) - - Show Bio

@eri123:

statement from the omniscient author in the book that tells us the story is just as good as any feat, that is not like statement from batman that Superman is strogner than the planet or that DD is invincible, in the book and comic what narrator tells us when he describes the event is the fact

So that statement is feat and proves how strong is Zod, and it is not an outlier, Zod has few comperable feats

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#37 Posted by MattyBoi (2854 posts) - - Show Bio

Kurse.

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#38 Posted by Matthew660 (1716 posts) - - Show Bio

Zod, but not by that large of a margin.

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#39 Edited by DetectiveSomerset__ (1753 posts) - - Show Bio

Zod and its not even close.. rewtched MoS and Zod lost cause PLOT.

He was impressive.

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#41 Posted by Zuriel-el (3933 posts) - - Show Bio

zod

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@kalkent said:
@mr_shazam0920 said:

What did Zod do in the tie in novel?

He was hurting Clark badly with punches to the point where Clark was bleeding very heavily.

Makes more sense; Two beings of the same species (any species) can hurt and kill one another using but their hands/claws etc. It wasn't normal to see Kryptonians hit on one another for hours whitout even achieving a bruise. To those who say that it is a durability feat, I'll answer that it was done at the expense of their striking power. This and ridiculous knckback gives the impression they have rubber fists.

Maybe they didn't wanted blood at all for PG13's sake.

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#43 Edited by darthvaderrocks (2970 posts) - - Show Bio

Zod uppercutting Superman to the top of a skycrapper (would have been even higher had Superman not use his flight) > anything Kurse with his striking which wasn't much.

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#44 Posted by DetectiveSomerset__ (1753 posts) - - Show Bio

@matthew660: Zod

People saying hulk punches stronger same usual trolls

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#45 Posted by Kevd4wg (14282 posts) - - Show Bio

Zod, Kurse struggled to put down Thor.

Using an off handed statement from a tie in novel that contradicts the movie is incredibly stupid tho.

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#46 Posted by ANTHP2000 (31081 posts) - - Show Bio

Zod hits harder with his speed, probably even w/o it.

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#47 Posted by kalkent (3763 posts) - - Show Bio

@kevd4wg said:

Zod, Kurse struggled to put down Thor.

Using an off handed statement from a tie in novel that contradicts the movie is incredibly stupid tho.

It didn't even contradict the movie in that part though.

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#48 Posted by WordWarrior (1634 posts) - - Show Bio

Kurse. The novel btw would no longer be canon once it contradicts the movie. That goes for the entire thing.

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#49 Edited by Nucleon (4140 posts) - - Show Bio

@kevd4wg said:

Zod, Kurse struggled to put down Thor.

Using an off handed statement from a tie in novel that contradicts the movie is incredibly stupid tho.

Well, Zod struggled a lot more to put down Superman. I don't believe Supes would have been able to deflect Mjolnir in flight.

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#50 Edited by Nucleon (4140 posts) - - Show Bio
@tonymartial said:

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Lots of knockbacks, mach cones and collateral, but basically no damage to their foe, which is in the same precise state it was before the (mostly esthetic) punch. No "before & after" whatsoever. No game-changing strike for the Kryptonians to date.

The Emperor is naked, guys. He is naked and the Kryptonians' hitting power is mediocre. Not bad, just featless and mediocre, to the point where headcannon becomes a necessity.