Eos Naruto by far. He fought against sasuke with every bijuu combined with only half the nine tails after fighting for far longer than sasuke and still manages to equal his power.
Ok the fact that this is Naruto show speaks for itself. Sure Sasuke is one of the biggest characters of the manga and arguably as important as Naruto. But in the end of the day its a naruto verse. Sasuke given the eye powers teleportation rinnegan is just better in my opinion. Also lets not forget that Sasuke was not complete master of his own eyes during their fight. Right now i think Sasuke is stronger by just a little bit.
At EOS, Sasuke was inexperienced with rinnegan the whole fight, as Kurama stated Naruto manage to stalemate only coz Sasuke cannot absorb and attack at the same time like Nagato during that fight otherwise we all know what would have happened.
If all lores are included then Rinnegan is just too OP for Naruto verse, Sasuke will almost stomp in that scenario.
In Narutos and Sasukes final fight, Sasuke had to borrow the powers of the bijuu's against Naruto, which goes against the whole point that Sasuke is suppose to represent the eyes and Naruto the body of Rikudo, at that point Sasuke was both the eyes and body while Naruto was just the body and he still only managed to stalemate Naruto. That should give you the answer as to whose stronger here.
Naruto's clone jutsu is one of the most underrated yet most powerful and versatile jutsu in the ENTIRE manga. The fact that Naruto can make hundreds even thousands of clones with comparative speed, power and versatility as the original, blows Sasuke out the water, the possibilities for victory are near endless.
hm... i think some rinnegan hax can't work to naruto when he use SO6P mode,, but not to base naruto
He's not immune to amenotejikara
even if like that he can react to it
or the Preta Path,
ahhh this hax again,, are you know,, madara already perform preta path power more that sasuke..
rinnegan madara absorb SM naruto rasenshuriken war arc
rinnegan madara absorb oohnoki jinton
and alive madara (no eyes) absorb hashirama and kyuubi chakra from fodder
but,, JUUDARA with rinnegan can't absorb SO6P naruto yoton RS,, remember rinnegan madara already absorm SM naruto RS before,, but he can't absorb this attack...
JUUDARA with rinnegan can't absorb Rinnegan sasuke chidori sword
and madara can't absorb this atttack
"so... i think,, Preta path can't absorb chakra from SO6P user,, or rinnegan user"
or the Deva Path etc
base naruto (pre war arc) tank shinra tensei,, KCM naruto war arc dodge bansho tennin,, and naruto can destroy chibaku tensei (KCM naruto itachi and hachibi vs nagato)
@linglung: In all those scenarios, some of those attacks were more of a speedblitz and Madara could not absorb those attacks because he had one eye. The true power/abilities of the Rinnegan is revealed with both eyes. Didn't you see him activate Chibaku tensei when he got the second rinnegan. Rinnegan can absorb SOSP abilities from Naruto. If Momoshiki can, Sasuke can.
Alive Madara with no eyes absorbed chakra not ninjutsu (difference) and that was not using rinnegan's preta ability. Preta absorbs both chakra and ninjutsu.
Sasuke already used the preta path to absorb chakra from Naruto towards the end of their final fight, then there's the Rinnegan's soul rip ability Sasuke has access to
@stardance: @kayc: hey man i'll anwer all of your post tomorrow ok..
Because i will use scan to prove it...
Remember: previously i said,, "some rinnengan hax can't work to naruto when he use SO6P mode,, but not to base naruto" which mean rinnegan power can work to base naruto... but not to SO6P mode
Please remember that,, and i will answer all of your post tomorrow
But..
@kayc: LOL at madara only can use chibaku tensei after he have 2 rinnegan,, or LOL at madara only can use preta path after he have 2 rinnegan..
and you forget 1Rinnegan BASE madara (only base not JUUDARA but base madara) using LIMBO HENGOKU (rinnegan power and more special that preta path ability) and KO 9 bijuu in a second,, and you ignore feat from no eyes madara who can absorb kyuubi chakra from fodder (using Preta path) pretty same like what sasuke did to BASE naruto when he absorb kyuubi chakra using preta path (final fight)..
But dont worry tomorrow i will use scan to prove it..
Because i like debate using feat or scan LOL
And please remember what i said before,, "some rinnegan hax can't work to naruto when he use SO6P mode, but rinnegan hax can work to BASE naruto"..
Previously you said: no eyes madara "not using Preta path ability" to absorb hashirama pr kyuubi chakra from fodder right??
So.. if madara not using preta path ability then he use what?? Because from what i know EMS dont have that ability (only rinnegan have it),, and normal or ALIVE madara dont have that ability too,, by feat EDO madara only can absorb SM naruto RS after he use rinnegan
The conclution is "normal madara or EMS madara can't absorb chakra or dont have ability to absorb chakra,, because only rinnegan madara who have it"
So.. the question is..
What ability that no eyes madara use when he absorb hashirama or kyuubi chakra??? Because you said he not using preta path LOL..
Please answer this question And sorry for my english
Madara himself has the ability to absorb chakra. He did after he already lost his Rinnegan. 3 times, with Amaterasu, taking Hashirama's SM, and with the Kyubi chakra the alliance had. All one right after the other, so he could clearly absorb chakra as EMS, since he was completely blind.
Some people just have that ability, he's not the only one.
@gxrevs06: Naruto was practically born with Kurama. Implying that Naruto is weaker because Kurama always helped him is like saying sasuke is weak bc he's always been assisted with the sharingan
You see? Sasuke was born w Sharingan so it wouldn't make any sense for him not to use, same way it doesn't make sense to say Naruto always relied on Kurama
I don't believe naruto has his sage of six path mode that he had when facing sasuke, meanwhile sasuke was inexperienced with his rinnegan at the time. It seems like over the course of time sasuke has gotten stronger whereas naruto has gotten weaker, when their last fight was essentially a stalemate. Sasuke is stronger imo.
I see naruto sasuke power lvls to be tthe equivalent of the relationship btwn hashirama and madara i.e. naruto/hashirama is more powerful while sasuke/madara has the skills and hax to keep up.
@gxrevs06: Naruto was practically born with Kurama. Implying that Naruto is weaker because Kurama always helped him is like saying sasuke is weak bc he's always been assisted with the sharingan
You see? Sasuke was born w Sharingan so it wouldn't make any sense for him not to use, same way it doesn't make sense to say Naruto always relied on Kurama
Not a very good compparion. The sharingan is an innate abilitty that all Uchiha have and it's something they develop through taining and etc. Naruto wasn't born with Kurama for starters. The the latter is an external entity with great power that was sealed inside Naruto. Karuma is is his own person. Because Naruto's seal was weaker, Karuma's power would leak out time to time. Naruto though the course of the series learns to acceess Kurama's chakra, which he uses to buff himself
@gxrevs06: "The sharingan is an innate abilitty that all Uchiha have and it's something they develop through training and etc"
- Did it or did it not take training for naruto to master Kurama's power?
"Naruto wasn't born with Kurama for starters"
- I didn't say born, i said practically born, meaning he's had him since birth
"The the latter is an external entity with great power that was sealed inside Naruto."
-Naruto had no control over him gaining Kurama, same way Sasuke didn't ask to be born as an Uchiha. I really don't know why you think the Sharingan and the 9 tails aren't comparable since those are the foundations of both Naruto and Sasuke's power
"Karuma is is his own person"
- demon fox lol
"Because Naruto's seal was weaker, Karuma's power would leak out time to time. Naruto though the course of the series learns to acceess Kurama's chakra, which he uses to buff himself"
- yea, and Sasuke took Itachi's eyes to gain the Eternal mangekyo so what?
this is when naruto attack EDO rinnegan madara using SM Rasen Shuriken,, EDO rinnegan madara can absorb naruto RS with easy
and this is when naruto attack JUUDARA using Senpou Yoton rasengan,,
naruto not blitz JUUDARA,, he just attack JUUDARA using Yoton RS (just same like what he did before to edo madara)... and JUUDARA CAN'T absorb that attack...
see this,, remember madara can absorb jutsu or chakra,, and he already absorb SM naruto RS before... but when SO6P naruto attack him using Yoton RS,, JUUDARA itself said "THIS IS BAD", why JUUDARA don't just absorb that attack if he can absorb chakra???
my answer: because Rinnegan ability - preta path CAN'T absorb chakra from SO6P user
now.. about sasuke,, this is when sasuke attack JUUDARA
this is not speedblitz,, why??? because you know.. JUUDARA was aware to sasuke and said (you really fast) but even if like that,, im sure he can absorb sasuke chidori (because he have preta path),, but he don't do that... why????
example about blitz preta path user...
remember,, jiraiya already blitz 2 pain's,, human path pain and animal path...
this is when jiraiya blitz human path pain
this is when jiriaya blitz animal path pain
but when jiraiya try to blitz preta path using Chou odama rasengan,, preta path can absorb that attack....
by that feat which mean "BLITZING using NINJUTSU is useless against preta path"
so... why JUUDARA don't just absorb SO6P naruto RS or Rinnegan sasuke chidori like what preta path pain did to jiraiya???..
another example... remember when V2 hachibi blitz nagato... but nagato can absorb hachibi chakra instantly
again,, blitz using ninjutsu is useless againt Preta path user
so.. why JUUDARA don't just absorb SO6P naruto RS or rinnegan chidori like what nagato did???
my answer: because preta path (Rinnegan or Rikudou power),, can't absorb chakra or ninjutsu from another SO6P user (Rikudou power)
and Madara could not absorb those attacks because he had one eye.
LOL.....
and you forget "1 eye base madara using LIMBO HENGOKU"??,, a rinnegan special ability?? far more special than preta path ability.. but still,, base madara can use it only with 1 eye...
The true power/abilities of the Rinnegan is revealed with both eyes.
yep,, but even if madara have 1 eye he still can use limbo hengoku,, which mean he can use preta path..
even no eye's madara still can absorb ninjutsu or chakra using preta path
Didn't you see him activate Chibaku tensei when he got the second rinnegan.
didn't you see him activate LIMBO HENGOKU (more special than preta ability or deva ability) when he only have 1 rinnegan???
didn't you see he can absorb someone chakra even when he didn't have eyes???
and JUUDARA using chibaku tensei to distract naruto and sasuke,, so he can use IT,, not to prove he only can use CT because he have 2 rinnegan...
Rinnegan can absorb SOSP abilities from Naruto.
ok... so man..
please give me 1 scan,, just 1 scan,, when RinneSharingan Sasuke, JUUDARA, KAGUYA... absorb naruto chakra or naruto ninjutsu when he using SO6P power...
remember,, when naruto using SO6P power,, his eye's become like this
If Momoshiki can, Sasuke can.
momoshiki absorb naruto chakra or kyuubi chakra when naruto in BASE mode,,
this is pretty same just like what sasuke did,, when he "only can absorb" naruto chakra or kyuubi chakra when naruto in BASE mode...
and this is when base madara absorb kyuubi chakra from Fodder
Alive Madara with no eyes absorbed chakra not ninjutsu (difference) and that was not using rinnegan's preta ability.
so... he use what????
ALIVE madara don't have ability to absorb chakra or ninjutsu,, EMS don't have power to absorb chakra or ninjutsu...
and the fact,, when edo madara vs SM naruto (war),, edo madara change his EMS to rinnegan so he can absorb naruto RS,, that's mean.. only rinnegan ability that can absorb chakra...
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