" @rbysjti said:
" @Dane said:Actual showings or the things you've invented in your head without any proof? I know which one I'll go with. Batman is who he is, he's peak human in every way. His feats are on par with other peak humans like Captain America. Just because Wolverine is capable of using his claws without killing (which he rarely does) doesn't make him better than Batman. Batman knows as many lethal strikes as Lady Shiva and he has never killed anyone using martial arts. He carries batarangs, an edged shuriken that could easily penetrate a human skull and he throws dozens of them on a daily basis without having ever killed or seriously maimed anyone, ever. Wolverine can't make the same claim. Furthermore, I can't recall Wolverine having ever been trained by a superhuman. As I've said I remember him being retrained in martial arts by Elektra but she is athlete/peak human. Most of the martial arts Logan learned in Japan were taught to him by human samurai. Whilst Wolverine's mutant healing factor could allow him to survive wounds that would kill Batman, that doesn't make him a better martial artist. A better martial artist is the one who avoids the hit, not the one who takes it on the chin. "" @rbysjti said:Well, we must not based it on their actual showings because Batman has been written like he's more than human. It takes skills for Wolverine to use his claws without killing his enemies, unless the opponents are just robots. And if you look for a martial artist who'll train you, i doubt it if you could keep up with Wolvie's training since there would be parts when only superhumans can do it. "" @Dane said:You should probably examine their actual showings. Wolverine has been trumped consistently by peak human martial artists. Batman has not. "" @rbysjti said:Yes i did. Being a mutant with healing factor is an edge because you get to execute things better and faster and easier. Besides, Batman uses gadgets along the way while Wolvie is just him and his claws. "" I'd say Wolverine. He is a mutant with healing factor so he can move beyond the normal body's limits. "do you even read the thread you're posting in? It's a question of martial arts skill. If you want to comment on a direct confrontation, perhaps try Wolverine vs. Batman . "
What I'm trying to say is that Wolverine has superhuman reflexes because he is a mutant. Being retrained doesn't mean anything to Wolverine at all. Do you think Batman can jump from a 50 feet building gracefully? If he uses his gadgets, then yes. but that's not a problem with Wolvie.
according to wiki:
Wolverine's agility and reflexes are also enhanced to levels that are beyond the physical limits of the finest human athlete. Due to his healing factor's constant regenerative qualities, he can push his muscles beyond the limits of the human body without injury.
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