Who is a better martial artist Wolverine or Batman?

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#1  Edited By jumpstart55

What Comic titan takes it as champion!!!!

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#2  Edited By Nighthunter

batman

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#3  Edited By MrMiracle77

On the sheer basis of age and fitness level, I'd go with Wolverine.

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#4  Edited By brendon277

Well if there's nothing like gadgets or claws involved it might go to Wolverine

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#5  Edited By stoneo

I say batman, wolverine would only win due to his healing factor and claws.
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#6  Edited By SystemID

Logan. ...but definitely NOT by a landslide. That's only if he keeps his cool though. If not. Bruce would win. He is just too damn cool.
 
 
...but then again Bane broke Batman's back.. and The hairy-wonder would R. A. P. E. Bane.
 
so who knows.

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#7  Edited By ThanosIsMad
@SystemID said:
" Logan. ...but definitely NOT by a landslide. That's only if he keeps his cool though. If not. Bruce would win. He is just too damn cool.   ...but then again Bane broke Batman's back.. and The hairy-wonder would R. A. P. E. Bane.  so who knows. "
Bane broke Batman's back after running Batman ragged after releasing all inmates in Gotham, thus forcing Batman to see to it that they were arrested again.  Bane broke Batman when Batman was at his weakest.  It's not like he confronted Batman out in the open, fought him, and broke his back. 
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#8  Edited By Matezoide2
  Batman by far
 
@SystemID said:

" Logan. ...but definitely NOT by a landslide. That's only if he keeps his cool though. If not. Bruce would win. He is just too damn cool.   ...but then again Bane broke Batman's back.. and The hairy-wonder would R. A. P. E. Bane.  so who knows. "

Bane would beat a powerless Wolverine

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" @SystemID said:
" Logan. ...but definitely NOT by a landslide. That's only if he keeps his cool though. If not. Bruce would win. He is just too damn cool.   ...but then again Bane broke Batman's back.. and The hairy-wonder would R. A. P. E. Bane.  so who knows. "
Bane broke Batman's back after running Batman ragged after releasing all inmates in Gotham, thus forcing Batman to see to it that they were arrested again.  Bane broke Batman when Batman was at his weakest.  It's not like he confronted Batman out in the open, fought him, and broke his back.  "

why does everyone forgets that?
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Logan gets my vote, mainly due to experience and the fact that he schooled six martial arts mystic masters in H2H while blindfolded.

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#10  Edited By Static Shock

Batman.

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#11  Edited By Silver2467
@Static Shock said:
" Batman. "
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#12  Edited By lagoon_boy
@Static Shock said:
" Batman. "
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#13  Edited By lagoon_boy
@Static Shock said:
" Batman. "
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#14  Edited By Valkaad

Wolverine has probably spent more time training/fighting than Batman has been alive.

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#15  Edited By Undergroundgod

Batman
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#16  Edited By sexy_merc

Bruce Wayne.

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#17  Edited By Static Shock
@Valkaad said:
" Wolverine has probably spent more time training/fighting than Batman has been alive. "
True.
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#18  Edited By Valkaad

Batmans been practicing martial arts for what 20-25 years? Wolverine has been practicing for what 100 years? 

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#19  Edited By lagoon_boy
@Valkaad:  Welcome Back.
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@lagoon_boy said:
" @Valkaad:  Welcome Back. "
Thanks.
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Batman is moderately to fairly better. 

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#22  Edited By Static Shock
@Valkaad said:
" Batmans been practicing martial arts for what 20-25 years? Wolverine has been practicing for what 100 years?  "
Sounds about right. However, I think it's hard to judge who's better, even if one has practiced longer than the other.
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#23  Edited By lagoon_boy
@Valkaad:  Where have you been? cause i recently just came back from my 10 month Rest period lolz.
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#24  Edited By Destinyhero20

Batman
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#25  Edited By Valkaad
@lagoon_boy said:
" @Valkaad:  Where have you been? cause i recently just came back from my 10 month Rest period lolz. "
I am off and on. I check the forums once a week or so. Glad your're back too!
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#26  Edited By ssejllenrad

Batman has trained with the best... Virtually all important arts were learned by him. Hand to hand skills only, I go with Bats....  
 
Take into account the healing factor (you don't even have to add the adamantium) and Wolverine wins...

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#27  Edited By drkhwk2001

Wolverine is a brilliant martial artist, however due to Adamantium and healing factor he doesn't display all he is capable of martial arts wise.

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#28  Edited By Valkaad
@Static Shock said:
" @Valkaad said:
" Batmans been practicing martial arts for what 20-25 years? Wolverine has been practicing for what 100 years?  "
Sounds about right. However, I think it's hard to judge who's better, even if one has practiced longer than the other. "
I agree, they are pretty evenly matched in terms of showings, so I have to give the nod to the guy who has been practicing 4 times longer.
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#29  Edited By lagoon_boy
@Valkaad:  Thanks!
 
Batman again,  Wolverine may have the Experience but Deadpool can beat him, and most of the Average Guys.
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#30  Edited By Deranged Midget

I don't know, Wolverine shows a lot of knowledge in various types of Martial Arts, and if I remember correctly when he was brainwashed, it took all the X-men, Captain America and the F4 to stop him(not all at once though).

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#32  Edited By Green Skin

I think Wolverine knows way more, but Batman has much better discipline.  So I have to say Batman.

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#33  Edited By geraldthesloth

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#34  Edited By FinalStar86

Batman has better martial art showings, and is a more intelligent fighter

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#35  Edited By BuckshotWasHere  Moderator
@Valkaad said:
" Wolverine has probably spent more time training/fighting than Batman has been alive. "
He's spent more time drinking that Batman's been alive too.
 
Wolverine has been alive longer and has had the potential to know more, but he doesn't use that, and since he doesn't he loses it. My opinion anyway. It seems to be backed up by Wolverine needing to go to people to be retrained though. He did it recently in Origins, he did it when he went to China town, he's done it before fighting Sabretooth, etc. I wouldn't say it's a regular thing, but it's something that happens more than you'd think. Wolverine's fighting style is tanking and slashing. He can pull out the skill, but it's like an old friend he hardly recognizes and needs to get reacquainted with. And I don't buy for a second the idea that Wolverine has been training in martial arts for the majority of the time he's been alive. He's lived in the wild for years, he's fought lots of wars that didn't require him to know much more than how to fire a gun and plenty of the enemies he fights don't require him to be skilled to beat them. He's had periods of training, but I really doubt that it was much of his long life. I don't know if the length of time Batman trained is more than Wolverine's, and I don't think it really matters. Batman has trained less than a lot of people he's better than. His dedication to his training and his ability to learn quickly mean the training he's had is probably better than the same amount (or more) training someone else could have undergone. I think that at any given time Batman is more skilled than Wolverine. Put them both in Captain America's body and I think Batman would win. Now, if you put them both in Captain America's body and let Wolverine relearn all that he's forgotten, he might win, but that's a different thing.
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#36  Edited By Night Thrasher
@Buckshot said:
" @Valkaad said:
" Wolverine has probably spent more time training/fighting than Batman has been alive. "
He's spent more time drinking that Batman's been alive too.  Wolverine has been alive longer and has had the potential to know more, but he doesn't use that, and since he doesn't he loses it. My opinion anyway. It seems to be backed up by Wolverine needing to go to people to be retrained though. He did it recently in Origins, he did it when he went to China town, he's done it before fighting Sabretooth, etc. I wouldn't say it's a regular thing, but it's something that happens more than you'd think. Wolverine's fighting style is tanking and slashing. He can pull out the skill, but it's like an old friend he hardly recognizes and needs to get reacquainted with. And I don't buy for a second the idea that Wolverine has been training in martial arts for the majority of the time he's been alive. He's lived in the wild for years, he's fought lots of wars that didn't require him to know much more than how to fire a gun and plenty of the enemies he fights don't require him to be skilled to beat them. He's had periods of training, but I really doubt that it was much of his long life. I don't know if the length of time Batman trained is more than Wolverine's, and I don't think it really matters. Batman has trained less than a lot of people he's better than. His dedication to his training and his ability to learn quickly mean the training he's had is probably better than the same amount (or more) training someone else could have undergone. I think that at any given time Batman is more skilled than Wolverine. Put them both in Captain America's body and I think Batman would win. Now, if you put them both in Captain America's body and let Wolverine relearn all that he's forgotten, he might win, but that's a different thing. "
I like this theory, however I don't think it's as much as him forgetting as it is the Weapon X program messing with his brain.
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#37  Edited By Silver2467
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He's spent more time drinking that Batman's been alive too.  Wolverine has been alive longer and has had the potential to know more, but he doesn't use that, and since he doesn't he loses it. My opinion anyway. It seems to be backed up by Wolverine needing to go to people to be retrained though. He did it recently in Origins, he did it when he went to China town, he's done it before fighting Sabretooth, etc. I wouldn't say it's a regular thing, but it's something that happens more than you'd think. Wolverine's fighting style is tanking and slashing. He can pull out the skill, but it's like an old friend he hardly recognizes and needs to get reacquainted with. And I don't buy for a second the idea that Wolverine has been training in martial arts for the majority of the time he's been alive. He's lived in the wild for years, he's fought lots of wars that didn't require him to know much more than how to fire a gun and plenty of the enemies he fights don't require him to be skilled to beat them. He's had periods of training, but I really doubt that it was much of his long life. I don't know if the length of time Batman trained is more than Wolverine's, and I don't think it really matters. Batman has trained less than a lot of people he's better than. His dedication to his training and his ability to learn quickly mean the training he's had is probably better than the same amount (or more) training someone else could have undergone. I think that at any given time Batman is more skilled than Wolverine. Put them both in Captain America's body and I think Batman would win. Now, if you put them both in Captain America's body and let Wolverine relearn all that he's forgotten, he might win, but that's a different thing. "
Well said.
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#38  Edited By jflash94

Batman wins this 
 
(this picture has totally nothing to do with this fight just like scourge in archie comics    
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#39  Edited By Manchine

Batman easily is a better martial artist.
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@Buckshot said:

" @Valkaad said:

" Wolverine has probably spent more time training/fighting than Batman has been alive. "
He's spent more time drinking that Batman's been alive too.  Wolverine has been alive longer and has had the potential to know more, but he doesn't use that, and since he doesn't he loses it. My opinion anyway. It seems to be backed up by Wolverine needing to go to people to be retrained though. He did it recently in Origins, he did it when he went to China town, he's done it before fighting Sabretooth, etc. I wouldn't say it's a regular thing, but it's something that happens more than you'd think. Wolverine's fighting style is tanking and slashing. He can pull out the skill, but it's like an old friend he hardly recognizes and needs to get reacquainted with. And I don't buy for a second the idea that Wolverine has been training in martial arts for the majority of the time he's been alive. He's lived in the wild for years, he's fought lots of wars that didn't require him to know much more than how to fire a gun and plenty of the enemies he fights don't require him to be skilled to beat them. He's had periods of training, but I really doubt that it was much of his long life. I don't know if the length of time Batman trained is more than Wolverine's, and I don't think it really matters. Batman has trained less than a lot of people he's better than. His dedication to his training and his ability to learn quickly mean the training he's had is probably better than the same amount (or more) training someone else could have undergone. I think that at any given time Batman is more skilled than Wolverine. Put them both in Captain America's body and I think Batman would win. Now, if you put them both in Captain America's body and let Wolverine relearn all that he's forgotten, he might win, but that's a different thing. "
This is a pretty good description. The only things I'd add to it is, keep in mind how many times Wolverine has lost his memories completely. He doesn't always forget how to fight but there are some occasions where he has gone completely feral and lost any semblance of martial arts skill from his fighting technique. I can remember him being retrained by Elektra among others. The problem also with Wolverine is we rarely see him as 'Wolverine the expert martial artist' and more often as 'Wolverine the bullet-sponge beserker' and it really degrades him overall. On the other hand, Batman is never shown as unintellingent or undisciplined. Bruce Wayne is always at the top of his game, even after recovering from injuries that would permanently cripple another man. I think Wolverine is a fantastic h2h fighter and I think he could be treated with more respect at times but on the whole, Batman is a better martial artist and that's the question so *shrugs*.
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#41  Edited By rbysjti

I'd say Wolverine. He is a mutant with healing factor so he can move beyond the normal body's limits.
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#42  Edited By dane
@rbysjti said:
" I'd say Wolverine. He is a mutant with healing factor so he can move beyond the normal body's limits. "
do you even read the thread you're posting in? It's a question of martial arts skill. If you want to comment on a direct confrontation, perhaps try Wolverine vs. Batman .
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#43  Edited By rbysjti
@Dane said:
" @rbysjti said:
" I'd say Wolverine. He is a mutant with healing factor so he can move beyond the normal body's limits. "
do you even read the thread you're posting in? It's a question of martial arts skill. If you want to comment on a direct confrontation, perhaps try Wolverine vs. Batman . "
Yes i did. Being a mutant with healing factor is an edge because you get to execute things better and faster and easier. Besides, Batman uses gadgets along the way while Wolvie is just him and his claws.
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#44  Edited By xan84

Not only is Batman a better MA but he also has a tactical mind that would give him a huge advantage in a fight, he would probably be 2-3 moves ahead of Logan.
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#45  Edited By Crom-Cruach
@FinalStar86 said:
" Batman has better martial art showings, and is a more intelligent fighter "
This.
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#46  Edited By conformist21

wolverine should be since his vast life has allowed him to practice more and fight more,
but since it's batman...
well automatic instinctual bias kicks in

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#47  Edited By dane
@rbysjti said:
" @Dane said:
" @rbysjti said:
" I'd say Wolverine. He is a mutant with healing factor so he can move beyond the normal body's limits. "
do you even read the thread you're posting in? It's a question of martial arts skill. If you want to comment on a direct confrontation, perhaps try Wolverine vs. Batman . "
Yes i did. Being a mutant with healing factor is an edge because you get to execute things better and faster and easier. Besides, Batman uses gadgets along the way while Wolvie is just him and his claws. "
You should probably examine their actual showings. Wolverine has been trumped consistently by peak human martial artists. Batman has not.
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#48  Edited By rbysjti
@Dane said:
" @rbysjti said:
" @Dane said:
" @rbysjti said:
" I'd say Wolverine. He is a mutant with healing factor so he can move beyond the normal body's limits. "
do you even read the thread you're posting in? It's a question of martial arts skill. If you want to comment on a direct confrontation, perhaps try Wolverine vs. Batman . "
Yes i did. Being a mutant with healing factor is an edge because you get to execute things better and faster and easier. Besides, Batman uses gadgets along the way while Wolvie is just him and his claws. "
You should probably examine their actual showings. Wolverine has been trumped consistently by peak human martial artists. Batman has not. "
Well, we must not based it on their actual showings because Batman has been written like he's more than human. It takes skills for Wolverine to use his claws without killing his enemies, unless the opponents are just robots. And if you look for a martial artist who'll train you, i doubt it if you could keep up with Wolvie's training since there would be parts when only superhumans can do it.
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#49  Edited By dane
@rbysjti said:
" @Dane said:
" @rbysjti said:
" @Dane said:
" @rbysjti said:
" I'd say Wolverine. He is a mutant with healing factor so he can move beyond the normal body's limits. "
do you even read the thread you're posting in? It's a question of martial arts skill. If you want to comment on a direct confrontation, perhaps try Wolverine vs. Batman . "
Yes i did. Being a mutant with healing factor is an edge because you get to execute things better and faster and easier. Besides, Batman uses gadgets along the way while Wolvie is just him and his claws. "
You should probably examine their actual showings. Wolverine has been trumped consistently by peak human martial artists. Batman has not. "
Well, we must not based it on their actual showings because Batman has been written like he's more than human. It takes skills for Wolverine to use his claws without killing his enemies, unless the opponents are just robots. And if you look for a martial artist who'll train you, i doubt it if you could keep up with Wolvie's training since there would be parts when only superhumans can do it. "

Actual showings or the things you've invented in your head without any proof? I know which one I'll go with. 
 
Batman is who he is, he's peak human in every way. His feats are on par with other peak humans like Captain America. Just because Wolverine is capable of using his claws without killing (which he rarely does) doesn't make him better than Batman. Batman knows as many lethal strikes as Lady Shiva and he has never killed anyone using martial arts. He carries batarangs, an edged shuriken that could easily penetrate a human skull and he throws dozens of them on a daily basis without having ever killed or seriously maimed anyone, ever. Wolverine can't make the same claim. Furthermore, I can't recall Wolverine having ever been trained by a superhuman. As I've said I remember him being retrained in martial arts by Elektra but she is athlete/peak human. Most of the martial arts Logan learned in Japan were taught to him by human samurai. Whilst Wolverine's mutant healing factor could allow him to survive wounds that would kill Batman, that doesn't make him a better martial artist. A better martial artist is the one who avoids the hit, not the one who takes it on the chin.
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#50  Edited By Undergroundgod
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"Batmans been practicing martial arts for what 20-25 years? Wolverine has been practicing for what 100 years?  "

Yeah... and he is still better. Which means Logan is F'n Retarded or something... Good point... Batman wins because he is a better MA plain and simple.