Who has better striking force? Thor (MCU) or Superman (DCEU)
Superman by a large margin when thor doesn’t have Mjølnir, and Thor by a good margin when he does have mjolinir.
@undefined: I would say in terms of pure striking power, I’ve seen Thor with better feats. Superman would still speed blitz the bell out of him in a real fight.
What's with the bad gif for superman?
Anyways Superman should have stronger strikes as far as I remember.
@alextheboss: except the first two gifs you show is a collision on zod and Superman, Thor's I'm the OP is soundly above that, not to mention ragnarock hulk punch through and around the wall is also above that. The last gif you show is just Clark punching zod in the air, Ironman could have replicated that one
except the first two gifs you show is a collision on zod and Superman, Thor's I'm the OP is soundly above that, not to mention ragnarock hulk punch through and around the wall is also above that.
Do you have a video of a gif of what you are talking about in particular. The gif in the OP is impressive but only around the first two I posted. And I posted those because the person who made the thread could of at least put a respectable gif to compare to the Thor one. I would of said the same thing if he put a gif of one of Superman's best feats and a gif of Thor just hitting some guy showing no destruction.
The last gif you show is just Clark punching zod in the air, Ironman could have replicated that one
Since when could Ironman punch someone multiple miles through the air?
I don't remember Superman striking someone without gaining a large speed beforehand, therefore increasing his momentum, except Punching Steppenwolf once or twice without gaining speed, which produced a visible shockwave, although shockwaves are not a good indicator of strength. It depends upon the mood of the movie makers. So it's difficult to judge.
Thor without Mjolnir isn't comparable to Superman in that department but with it, has even outclassed Superman in striking power. He undoubtedly hits really hard with that Hammer.
I don't remember Superman striking someone without gaining a large speed beforehand, therefore increasing his momentum, except Punching Steppenwolf once or twice without gaining speed, which produced a visible shockwave, although shockwaves are not a good indicator of strength. It depends upon the mood of the movie makers. So it's difficult to judge.
Thor without Mjolnir isn't comparable to Superman in that department but with it, has even outclassed Superman in striking power. He undoubtedly hits really hard with that Hammer.
He did here and I think this is one of his best striking feats
I don't remember Superman striking someone without gaining a large speed beforehand, therefore increasing his momentum, except Punching Steppenwolf once or twice without gaining speed, which produced a visible shockwave, although shockwaves are not a good indicator of strength. It depends upon the mood of the movie makers. So it's difficult to judge.
Thor without Mjolnir isn't comparable to Superman in that department but with it, has even outclassed Superman in striking power. He undoubtedly hits really hard with that Hammer.
He did here and I think this is one of his best striking feats
That's a nice supersonic punch there. By that punch we can also calculate the minimum distance between him and the train which is around 1km. So that dude was able to throw a train over 1km away... Not bad.
Thor with Mjolnir
Dunno about without it the uppercut on Hulk had a pretty huge shockwave I'll just say evens without it Superman maybe has an edge
Most of the gifs people use for Superman are bullrushes or collisions
Mjolnir lightning charged strikes >>>>> Thor's lightning amped punches > Clark's bullrush punches >> Mjolnir regular strikes = Clark's regular punches >> Thor's regular punches.
Mjolnir allows Thor to focus his power far more efficiently. That's why his lightning charged attacks with Mjolnir are so damn powerful.
@thunderprince: Without his god mode, no...
Mjolnir lightning charged strikes >>>>> Thor's lightning amped punches > Clark's bullrush punches >> Mjolnir regular strikes = Clark's regular punches >> Thor's regular punches.
Mjolnir allows Thor to focus his power far more efficiently. That's why his lightning charged attacks with Mjolnir are so damn powerful.
For the most part I agree with this, however, in Thor Ragnarok he grabs a random weapon(happens to be hammer shape) from the Wall of the Colosseum after Hulk punches him into said wall and hits Hulk with it, and it sends Hulk into another part of the wall and Hulk rolls along the wall halfway around the Colosseum. So even without Mjolnir, just using a hammer shaped weapon, he has very impressive striking power.
@undefined: Thor with Mjionir has better striking. God Mode Thor without Mjionir has better striking. Thor with no God mode or Mjionir has inferior striking.
Mjolnir lightning charged strikes >>>>> Thor's lightning amped punches > Clark's bullrush punches >> Mjolnir regular strikes = Clark's regular punches >> Thor's regular punches.
Mjolnir allows Thor to focus his power far more efficiently. That's why his lightning charged attacks with Mjolnir are so damn powerful.
For the most part I agree with this, however, in Thor Ragnarok he grabs a random weapon(happens to be hammer shape) from the Wall of the Colosseum after Hulk punches him into said wall and hits Hulk with it, and it sends Hulk into another part of the wall and Hulk rolls along the wall halfway around the Colosseum. So even without Mjolnir, just using a hammer shaped weapon, he has very impressive striking power.
Your striking power is always more impressive when you have a weapon. The hammer Thor had was very big and long and the way he swung it would have been much more powerful than his regular punch. We can still scale his punches though. Hulk in the 2008 movie was barely moved by a grenade launcher. The Mark Ruffalo Hulk is much more powerful, and the Hulk in Ragnarok was stated to be more angry than ever. Thor's hits were hurting Hulk for sure as well, so Thor hits multiple times harder than a regular grenade launcher does. Cap was sent flying by one, so you can imagine what Thor's punches are like.
Mjolnir lightning charged strikes >>>>> Thor's lightning amped punches > Clark's bullrush punches >> Mjolnir regular strikes = Clark's regular punches >> Thor's regular punches.
Mjolnir allows Thor to focus his power far more efficiently. That's why his lightning charged attacks with Mjolnir are so damn powerful.
For the most part I agree with this, however, in Thor Ragnarok he grabs a random weapon(happens to be hammer shape) from the Wall of the Colosseum after Hulk punches him into said wall and hits Hulk with it, and it sends Hulk into another part of the wall and Hulk rolls along the wall halfway around the Colosseum. So even without Mjolnir, just using a hammer shaped weapon, he has very impressive striking power.
Your striking power is always more impressive when you have a weapon. The hammer Thor had was very big and long and the way he swung it would have been much more powerful than his regular punch. We can still scale his punches though. Hulk in the 2008 movie was barely moved by a grenade launcher. The Mark Ruffalo Hulk is much more powerful, and the Hulk in Ragnarok was stated to be more angry than ever. Thor's hits were hurting Hulk for sure as well, so Thor hits multiple times harder than a regular grenade launcher does. Cap was sent flying by one, so you can imagine what Thor's punches are like.
Oh I agree, I was simply pointing out that he doesn't need Mjolnir to have the type of striking power that he has with Mjolnir, any hammer shape weapon seems to be enough.
Still superman and it's not even close, in combat anyway. Plus all the better striking claims have heavy context in them
Still superman and it's not even close, in combat anyway. Plus all the better striking claims have heavy context in them
in superman's ones.
Thor with mjolnir
@mowjack: lol....no, in thor's, what context is there in superman's
@mowjack: lol....no, in thor's, what context is there in superman's
Maybe the fact that 90%(made up percentage) of his powerful hits are with him flying into and hitting the person, adding more power to the attack by use of speed. What context is there in Thor's?
@DammeFavour: by the look of this thread exscuses won't get you far sorry you lose
@mowjack: lol....no, in thor's, what context is there in superman's
give me one quantifaiable punch that is not a bullrush
@mowjack: lol....no, in thor's, what context is there in superman's
Maybe the fact that 90%(made up percentage) of his powerful hits are with him flying into and hitting the person, adding more power to the attack by use of speed. What context is there in Thor's?
the rest 10% are barely quantifiable
you call this impressive?
Actually, while the first one can be calculated, the second one, while not even being Superman hitting someone, is just like I said "him flying into and hitting the person, adding more power to the attack by use of speed."
@mowjack: seriously dude? Did you see the last part of my statement? I put it there just for you, they are very quantifiable
@rr79: dude, it was an uppercut. How does your statement even make sense to you?
@rr79: dude, it was an uppercut. How does your statement even make sense to you?
What does he do at the very beginning? Oh that's right bullrush. Regardless, it isn't even Superman doing the hit so it is not important in this thread.
@lfrankthetank27: With his god mode Thor hits as hard if not harder than Superman.
The sheer blunt force required to send Hulk 20-40 meters vertically and over a hundred meters horizontally is a match for any of Superman's punches.
I don't think the answer is as clean-cut as people are making it out to be.
Thor with Mjolnir vs a full swing from Clark is actually debatable. As many know I've raised my points before and many disagree, but it at least brings a new perspective.
Except it is. Clark doesn't have anything that can match Thor's Malekith strike. All of his comparable hits were with built up speed from flying, and thus more force and energy, or were with someone like Zod and him flying at each other and slamming into each other. He has nothing like the Malekith strike. Standing and swinging once and generating a shockwave that shatters concrete all round them and covers an absurd distance to obliterate all of the windows in a nearby building.
I don't think the answer is as clean-cut as people are making it out to be.
Thor with Mjolnir vs a full swing from Clark is actually debatable. As many know I've raised my points before and many disagree, but it at least brings a new perspective.
Except it is. Clark doesn't have anything that can match Thor's Malekith strike. All of his comparable hits were with built up speed from flying, and thus more force and energy, or were with someone like Zod and him flying at each other and slamming into each other. He has nothing like the Malekith strike. Standing and swinging once and generating a shockwave that shatters concrete all round them and covers an absurd distance to obliterate all of the windows in a nearby building.
"As many know I've raised my points before and many disagree, but it at least brings a new perspective."
I can't say much more at this point. It's not as though I haven't address this exact feat before. I have, we just have opposing perspectives on this.
I think it's up for more debate than coming to a simple conclusion as you have.
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