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Posted by kalder_ridley (1394 posts) 10 days, 15 hours ago

Poll: Who Has Better Physicals: Current Goku or EoS Toriko? (80 votes)

Current Goku 75%
EoS Toriko 25%

who has better physicals?

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#1 Posted by ElderElijah190 (627 posts) - - Show Bio

You won't be getting any votes here seeing as how the greatest toriko wanker should consider simple logic. Bait threads like this should just die.

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#2 Posted by death2heretics (3012 posts) - - Show Bio

By feats i would say Toriko, but by scaling Goku is above Toriko.

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#3 Posted by HitTheAssasin (3362 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah, Toriko by feats, but it's more or less equal perhaps even in Goku's favour with scaling.

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#4 Posted by KanyeCosby (2712 posts) - - Show Bio

Toriko

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#5 Edited by ElderElijah190 (627 posts) - - Show Bio

Ssg gokus physical stats puts the toriko verse to shame. Matching and canceling universal blows is quadrillions times above whatever stat the toriko verse has attained. Current goku winks with a finger. I mean,we saw a depowered and weakened third form frieza with little to no durability left at ROF and dbs anime oneshot the earth,casually with a stamp of his palm after losing to vegeta.

The dbz inconsistent nonsense that could be scaled to ki control has clouded a lot of peoples mind to be super bias wtf. When something goes wrong with a series that's logical,they find an easy cave to lay down to because they don't acknowledge said fiction anymore smh.

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#6 Posted by cooljammy18 (1974 posts) - - Show Bio

From what I've seen of Toriko on these boards, he takes it by feats, but Goku takes it by scaling.

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#7 Posted by deactivated-5a90ca82ccb5f (6669 posts) - - Show Bio

By feats i would say Toriko, but by scaling Goku is above Toriko.

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#8 Posted by EcoBlitz (582 posts) - - Show Bio

@elderelijah190: Wow! You managed to get Everything you typed to be wrong.

First of all those “universal blows” grew more powerful as they travelled farther meaning the actual punch is much much much below planet level.

Secondly RoF Frieza used an energy ball which he used to attack the planet core to bust it.

Your head canon don’t count. Toriko has far better physicals by feats.

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#9 Edited by death2heretics (3012 posts) - - Show Bio

@ecoblitz: You're right but in order to create shockwaves that travel the whole universe even into other dimensions, wouldnt it require striking power far above planetary?

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#10 Posted by EcoBlitz (582 posts) - - Show Bio

@death2heretics: I don’t know, and I wouldn’t say so because the earth was intact while said punches happened

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#11 Posted by death2heretics (3012 posts) - - Show Bio

@ecoblitz: I'm talking about the shockwaves not the damage they caused. I don't know much about shockwaves but in BoG the shockwaves were MFTL and was felt all across the universe and even in other dimensions. I know the shockwaves didn't destroy Earth. But woudnt it require striking power far above planetary to cause the shockwaves travel that fast? Anyways, i'll ask NemesisReloaded he might know something xD

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#12 Posted by EcoBlitz (582 posts) - - Show Bio

@death2heretics: probably ask him but I will say this, humans could turn their heads before the shockwaves moved a couple feet

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#13 Posted by Marc_55 (5631 posts) - - Show Bio

In terms of actual feats? Toriko all day.

By scaling (yikes) and in verse logic (double yikes)? Goku should be stronger, but that's it. He's not nearly as fast.

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#14 Posted by ALMIGHTY (2966 posts) - - Show Bio

By scailing at the very least UI Goku (if that’s the current we’re using) should have AT THE VERY MINIMAL, Solar System+ physicals which is above what the Toriko series has shown capping out at Star lvl.

If we are going by feats then obviously Toriko

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#15 Posted by Chaos239 (3529 posts) - - Show Bio

In terms of feats? Goku blows him out the water during the first arc of Super.

By scaling? Mismatch.

By CV logic? Goku isn't even car level.

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#16 Posted by kalder_ridley (1394 posts) - - Show Bio

why are DB characters constantly given a pass for their lack of FEATS?

it's always SCALING with DB characters (which is annoying)

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#17 Edited by DemonGod_PABLO (628 posts) - - Show Bio
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Shook all of universe 7. which consist of mortal universe, Heaven, hell(All universal in size) and the Kaioshin realm.

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#18 Posted by Rxdking (260 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44

Classic bait thread.

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Shook all of universe 7. which consist of mortal universe, Heaven, hell(All universal in size) and the Kaioshin realm.

This ends it

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#19 Posted by DemonGod_PABLO (628 posts) - - Show Bio

@rxdking said:

@jashro44

Classic bait thread.

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Shook all of universe 7. which consist of mortal universe, Heaven, hell(All universal in size) and the Kaioshin realm.

This ends it

Namek saga frieza literally pushed back a spirit bomb that had enough weight to crush namek. Planet level physicals aren't new or impressive in DB

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#20 Posted by Marc_55 (5631 posts) - - Show Bio

@demongod_pablo: If it had enough "weight" to crush Namek, why didn't it do so when it actually hit Namek?

Planet level physicals never appear until Super, that's pretty blatant. Even then, Toriko has far more than just planet level physicals.

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#21 Posted by DemonGod_PABLO (628 posts) - - Show Bio

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@demongod_pablo: If it had enough "weight" to crush Namek, why didn't it do so when it actually hit Namek?

Planet level physicals never appear until Super, that's pretty blatant. Even then, Toriko has far more than just planet level physicals.

why doesn't flash destroy the planet when moving FTL, speeds...... Because its fiction it doesn't always make sense. Still doesn't change the fact goku thought the spirit bomb would crush namek but had no choice but to use it.

toriko has Large planet physicals at best

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#22 Posted by Superhero24 (4353 posts) - - Show Bio

Goku punched the ground creating a big AOE that destroyed a ton of the universal fighting stage. A stage made of dwarf star material likely if not more. A small portion of that material being destroyed is strong enough to wreck a planet. Goku destroyed much more than that.

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#23 Posted by Lord_Spectrum (3618 posts) - - Show Bio

Goku.....a typical bait thread.

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#24 Posted by Royal_Warrior (4730 posts) - - Show Bio

Not sure which franchise gets trolled the most

DCEU, MCU or DB

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#25 Edited by Marc_55 (5631 posts) - - Show Bio

@demongod_pablo said:
@marc_55 said:

@demongod_pablo: If it had enough "weight" to crush Namek, why didn't it do so when it actually hit Namek?

Planet level physicals never appear until Super, that's pretty blatant. Even then, Toriko has far more than just planet level physicals.

why doesn't flash destroy the planet when moving FTL, speeds...... Because its fiction it doesn't always make sense.

The speed force is usually noted as doing away with convention, not that this holds any relevance to DB.

Still doesn't change the fact goku thought the spirit bomb would crush namek but had no choice but to use it.

He thought it would destroy Namek, but that has basically nothing to do with it's weight. Which happens to be completely unknown, as ki is never noted to weigh anything.

toriko has Large planet physicals at best

Uh, no. He has large planetary physicals, at least. At best we're talking star level.

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#26 Edited by DrPepperMan (2199 posts) - - Show Bio

What Royal said.

Even if you assume SSG BoG goku was contributing 1/300,000,000,000 f the force required to destroy the universe, this would still be far above what toriko can do if he is actually star level.

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#27 Posted by ElderElijah190 (627 posts) - - Show Bio

@ecoblitz:

I didn't have to reply to what you said when i heard of planetary smh. How about you understand a series before pointing out things that makes no sense.

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#28 Posted by GXrevs06 (2618 posts) - - Show Bio

why doesn't flash destroy the planet when moving FTL, speeds...... Because its fiction it doesn't always make sense. Still doesn't change the fact goku thought the spirit bomb would crush namek but had no choice but to use it.

toriko has Large planet physicals at best

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#29 Posted by MainJP (3471 posts) - - Show Bio
@marc_55 said:

In terms of actual feats? Toriko all day.

By scaling (yikes) and in verse logic (double yikes)? Goku should be stronger, but that's it. He's not nearly as fast.

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#30 Posted by Doofasa (996 posts) - - Show Bio

By feats Goku, by scaling Goku at around the Cell Saga.

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#31 Edited by ElderElijah190 (627 posts) - - Show Bio

Ssj3 goku is above toriko physically by feats. Busted through kk planet that is 10 times denser than earth.

Current goku by feats with a finger would troll toriko like jiren did against ssg goku. Let this bait thread die.

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#32 Posted by MasterSkywalker (3048 posts) - - Show Bio

Toriko eclipses Goku in raw physical feats. And other categories, but thats for another day.

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#33 Edited by benoma (112 posts) - - Show Bio

If Toriko had large planet physical strenght there planet would've been destroyed from the start, there striking is small(earth size)planet att best, only scaling puts them on planetary level strenght, and if we do scaling for goku you know where he easily end up(universal strenght). The only characters with large platenery striking is Jin Mo Ri, Satan, (Beerus, Champa with less than 1% of there powers), those guys have proven to destroy large planets by feats, and current Goku is arguably above GoDs if not equal.

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#34 Posted by Kayc (383 posts) - - Show Bio

Lol, This is mismatch. If you combine all the striking strength of every single character in Toriko, it does not measure to Goku.

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#35 Posted by Namiii (107 posts) - - Show Bio

Can you stop with the Toriko wank

Goku

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#36 Posted by BlackWizzard17 (294 posts) - - Show Bio

Can we get some Torkio feats up in here? At least there are some arguments with evidence to support DB but no post from Toriko.

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#37 Edited by ElderElijah190 (627 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackwizzard17:

All you would be getting here is large planet strike potency that proves this thread is a bait thread,seeing the level current goku lies. Goku contributing to the generation of shockwaves that could shake a single galaxy would still place him above anything in toriko. Well,what do have here? He contributed to the generation of universal shockwaves that transcended not just the universe but outer dimensions entailed in the universe,not to mention he was evenly matching and canceling out said universal shockwaves at the latter. In reality,not even the explosion of two-three galaxies could shake the universe in mere seconds or more,let's say even to a limitless time,they most certainly can't.

Ssg goku feat would put the toriko physical stat to ridicule even though we got to see them bust a star. What do we've here once again? Not even a single planet has been destroyed in the toriko series smh. Scaling them is no problem but their borders end at ssj3 goku physical wise if scaling and partly feats are allowed.

Anyone supporting toriko here is just being bias with no logical reasoning. Current goku should be million of times above his pre ssg form so why is this even debatable?

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#38 Edited by TheDeathstar (2879 posts) - - Show Bio

Goku easily. Casual Beerus destroys Planets with 1 finger poke and Stars with Sneezes. Current Goku>>>>>>>>>>>>>Casual Beerus.

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#39 Posted by camilopezo (1149 posts) - - Show Bio

Zamasu (pre-Black) could lift Dragon Balls that are the size of a planet.

Goku SSj 2 > Zamasu (Pre-Black)

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#40 Posted by Helloman (11434 posts) - - Show Bio

Goku.

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#41 Edited by Scotchbear (850 posts) - - Show Bio

L0l wtf is this bait? Even if you're lowballing Goku he's so far above in physicals.

Also L0L at people lowballing Goku to under star level gtfo here with that nonsense.

Dbs has frieza at Galaxy+ durability lol

Vegeta literally busted out of a huge existence erasing attack (galaxy+)

They are tanking attacks of these levels meaning they are dishing out damage equal to or greater than that in attacks.

Think of Jirens physicals, he literally casually two shot golden frieza who has galaxy+ durability lol. His punches must be at least galaxy++ to multigalaxy to do that.

Even if Goku is 1/10000 (he's closer to him than that, more like 10-20% currently) he's still far above solar system level in physicals.

I personally have SSB x20 kk Goku at about galaxy maybe galaxy+ in stats. Mastered UI Goku is probably pushing multi galaxy.

Goku and Vegeta are both around GoD level now, so they could dish out some major damage on a huge cosmic scale if they decided to.

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#42 Posted by DemonGod_PABLO (628 posts) - - Show Bio

I’ve seen some funny comments but this thread takes it for me. There are about 100 billion galaxies in the universe, there is no way you can threaten to destroy a galaxy with planetary or star level physicals let alone the universe. But Beerus and Goku threaten to turn essentially 3 universes and the Kai realm (which is 1/5 the size of the mortal universe if I’m not mistaken) to nothing with 3 punches clashing

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Pew pew>Krillin Bullet>Krillin kamehamea=Goku Kamehameha>universe punch

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#44 Posted by LiTTlleJeiKKie (398 posts) - - Show Bio

@marc_55:

He's not nearly as fast.

toriko isn't nearly as fast as goku from cell or namek, he would get blitzed by cell.

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#45 Posted by omriamar (3560 posts) - - Show Bio

From what I've seen of Toriko on these boards, he takes it by feats, but Goku takes it by scaling.

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#46 Posted by HitTheAssasin (3362 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh, bloody hell, look at what this thread has devolved into. Really, it's as expected from any DB vs other high-tier manga thread.

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#47 Edited by LiTTlleJeiKKie (398 posts) - - Show Bio

by the way i am going to end this thread.

striking strength for GOKU= shaking the macrcosm with his impact

striking strength for toriko=casually destroying the surface of a planet.

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you can even see that as a side effect from friezas kick that, the explosion covered the whole namek, not only that but it also shock the whole planet too,you can see when the ground was shaking, though it exploded completely outside of the planet, this feat also backs up that frieza can easily keep up with such attack and even deflect it though it was planetary. You can even see at the end that he was laughing, he even said at the end that it was amusing. Note that this isn't even 50% frieza.

also note that it is dbz kai.

so, i don't know if peoples are serious when they say dbz characters has no impressive physical strength of feats when obviously fodders like namek frieza did it casually using less than 50% of his final for. the fact of the matter is, they concentrates their power into a smaller area to reduce the casuality, which is why nothing happed afterwards. Take vegito vs merged zamasu for ex, even though much weaker god goku shoke the macrocosm vs beerus, all they did was brake a few buildings.

lifting strength for goku= doing 50 000 thummb push ups with one finger wearing a bodysuit that were heavy enough to sink through a planet on base form. note that he did it in beeruss planet where it is a much tougher rocks.

lifting strength for toriko=lifting a very big monster with his arm but his current version is much stronger

speed toriko=FTL

speed goku= scaling from db and dbz MFTL, much faster than toriko.

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#48 Edited by LiTTlleJeiKKie (398 posts) - - Show Bio

@scotchbear:

i agree with you, peoples are just use to undesesstimating dbz characters a lot these days.

@demongod_pablo: @scotchbear:

don't listen to marc 55, he is dbz down player. he is known for it, he said a lot of funny things, just go ahead and check his history

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#49 Posted by ElderElijah190 (627 posts) - - Show Bio

This is what every dbs vs toriko threads derail into. They make a bait thread and wank the large planetary tiers through logical scaling to disgusting levels. This is the height of all bait threads.

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#50 Posted by Marshall_Long (5468 posts) - - Show Bio

Goku easily