Who could beat Pre Retcon Beyonder

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#1  Edited By IronSolitaire

Like seriously? Is there any one who could/can beat pre retcon Beyonder

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MOM.

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TOAA/Fulcrum (i.e. writers)

*Maybe* HOTU Thanos

That's it from Marvel.

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#4  Edited By spartan1008

nobody, he was written in a way that no one could beat him, he was the OAA of his universe, or the absolute pinnacle of power. Even guys like the living tribual were less than nothing to him

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Not this question again...

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The combo of LT the abstracts, the cosmic cube, IG, thanos, and dr. In in one man

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Despite the others who ASSUME he could be beat.. This character, aswell as a few others, could not be beat at all. They can't fight each other.

The only ones who could beat them, are themselves. And in this case, Beyonder beat the Beyonder.

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#8  Edited By Kingant27

Thanos HOTU, probably Elaine Belloc, maybe Protege, maybe Alien Entity...

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Thanos with HOTU.

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Nobody. His feat of destroying a multiverse with a thought outweighs nearly every other feat their is, he completely ignores abstracts powers as they don't apply to him, it's like this basically.

A galaxy is 100-400 billion stars the universe consists of 100 billion galaxies, the exact number of universes in a multiverse is incalculable. He destroyed numerous planes of existence with a thought, the embodiment of overpowered in one character. Its Auto-spite whoever he's against basically, minus the writers (The presence, ToAA, MoM)

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#11  Edited By thecoolest

Thanos HOTU, probably Elaine Belloc, maybe Protege, maybe Alien Entity...

Not Protege, Protege was one shotted by Hawkgod, she also never stole LT's power, that's just a mith, LT and Eternity were not impressed by her power and she summoned MEPHISTO to fight the LT (which obiously didn't work), anyone who needs help from Mephisto or loses to Hawkgod gets stomped by the Classic Beyonder.

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#13  Edited By Kingant27

@thecoolest said:

@kingant27 said:

Thanos HOTU, probably Elaine Belloc, maybe Protege, maybe Alien Entity...

Not Protege, Protege was one shotted by Hawkgod, she also never stole LT's power, that's just a mith, LT and Eternity were not impressed by her power and she summoned MEPHISTO to fight the LT (which obiously didn't work), anyone who needs help from Mephisto or loses to Hawkgod gets stomped by the Classic Beyonder.

Protege has the ability to double anyone's power etc...

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@thecoolest said:

@kingant27 said:

Thanos HOTU, probably Elaine Belloc, maybe Protege, maybe Alien Entity...

Not Protege, Protege was one shotted by Hawkgod, she also never stole LT's power, that's just a mith, LT and Eternity were not impressed by her power and she summoned MEPHISTO to fight the LT (which obiously didn't work), anyone who needs help from Mephisto or loses to Hawkgod gets stomped by the Classic Beyonder.

Protégé has the ability to double anyone's power...

No, she doesn't, like I said, she got one shotted by Hawk God, and it happened after she claimed to have copied LT's powers.

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Those saying Thanos, clearly don't know about Classic Beyonder.

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@kingant27 said:

@thecoolest said:

@kingant27 said:

Thanos HOTU, probably Elaine Belloc, maybe Protege, maybe Alien Entity...

Not Protege, Protege was one shotted by Hawkgod, she also never stole LT's power, that's just a mith, LT and Eternity were not impressed by her power and she summoned MEPHISTO to fight the LT (which obiously didn't work), anyone who needs help from Mephisto or loses to Hawkgod gets stomped by the Classic Beyonder.

Protégé has the ability to double anyone's power...

No, she doesn't, like I said, she got one shotted by Hawk God, and it happened after she claimed to have copied LT's powers.

Exactly.. Being Tri Omni, is not a power.. it's a state of BEING. Protégé can double POWERS, not presence/being.

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#17  Edited By mysticmedivh

The One Above All/The Fulcrum.

Aside from them, PR-Beyonder is the strongest being in marvel.

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MOM.

Thanos HOTU, probably Elaine Belloc, maybe Protege, maybe Alien Entity...

If anything, MoM and Elaine Belloc should be a stalemate. Heck, Elaine Belloc is only the fifth most powerful being in DC. Keep in mind that the Beyonder was already the TOAA of another multiverse before he came to Marvel. Alien Entity is a practically featless nigh-omnipotent that needed help from Reed Richards. He isn't defeating the Beyonder.

Thanos with HOTU.

About HOTU Thanos. Think of it from this perspective. HOTU Thanos was omnipotent in his own right, he had the power of the Marvel multiverse. To state the obvious, the Marvel multiverse is one multiverse, he had the power of one multiverse. The Beyonder's power was that of millions of multiverses combined.

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@thecoolest said:

@kingant27 said:

Thanos HOTU, probably Elaine Belloc, maybe Protege, maybe Alien Entity...

Not Protege, Protege was one shotted by Hawkgod, she also never stole LT's power, that's just a mith, LT and Eternity were not impressed by her power and she summoned MEPHISTO to fight the LT (which obiously didn't work), anyone who needs help from Mephisto or loses to Hawkgod gets stomped by the Classic Beyonder.

Protege has the ability to double anyone's power etc...

Keep in mind that it was stated that no being in existence could possibly defeat the Beyonder (Pre-Recton), and the fact that nobody ever did defeat him Pre-Recton proves this. He was written to be unbeatable.

To go on further, when the Beyonder arrived the Marvel reality itself practically ceased to exist. Everything was merely the Beyonder's imagination, anything that happened was because he willed it so. This goes as far as the "rectons", it turns out that the Beyonder rectonned himself because he could.

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This question has been asked approximately 1200 times. Use google.

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Thanos HOTU, probably Elaine Belloc, maybe Protege, maybe Alien Entity...

Only HOTU has a chance,but still,HOTU cant recton other charaterS,Beyonder can rewriter himself,rewriter other charaterS,also there isnt have "Pre-recton beyonder".beyonder was convinced he was an inhuman mutant or a being from another dimension or anything else he's thought he is. he has the power that what he thinks is what he is.

What is Beyonder's Power?Stan Lee stated:

Beyonder is supose to represent the power the writers themselves have over the comics

So,Beyonder=TOAA>>>>HOTU,

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HOTU is nigh-omnipotent

Beyonder is omnipotent

Beyonder made everything happen,every occurrence, positive or negative, was of Beyonder's own making

Beyonder can rewriter everything,Even rewriter "Pre-recton Beyonder" into "SW3"

HOTU never have that feats

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Batman with prep

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TOAA.

The flash via speed force dump.

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#24  Edited By Mortal

What about The Spectre at his full potential?

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TOAA

Presence

MoM

Fulcrum

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Protege

Elaine Belloc

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TOAA

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Scorpion with MKgod force.

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#31  Edited By mr-luxcipher

I love how people keep naming characters that've already been addressed as less powerful.

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Mr Eraser fused wit Sciccors and Pencil. They can wipe out entire series from existence.

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#33  Edited By bakera8

Like seriously? Is there any one who could/can beat pre retcon Beyonder

I don't think anyone can.

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#35  Edited By BlueHope

He is an omnipotent character, there is nothing above omnipotence so no, if he fight with another omnipotent would be a draw

@khael said:

@devil_driver: No Khael force? ;)

On topic: Elder God Demonbane

Beyounder would beat demonbane,if Azathoth ever wake up Demonbane would disappear with the rest of the dream

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#36  Edited By MaZeRaIII

Noone. He is Omnipotent.

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TOAA can beat him

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Mad Jim Jaspers and Mxy if he was serious.

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Elder God demonbane, Azathoth, Lord of Nightmares, and the Choushin all Solo.

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@tedbundy654321: Neither MJJ or Mxy has the feats to contend with the Beyonder.

I am bumping just because I would like to know if there is any nigh omnipotent that can beat him.

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Primal Monitor, TOAA

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@josephgomes619: Does PM have better feats than Beyonder or is it still just statements?

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EGD absolutely wrecks him with literally less than a thought. Hell, forget about EGD, Nya stomps him without even needing to raise a finger.

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WF Mxy via feats.

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Noone.

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HOTU is nigh-omnipotent

Beyonder is omnipotent

Beyonder made everything happen,every occurrence, positive or negative, was of Beyonder's own making

Beyonder can rewriter everything,Even rewriter "Pre-recton Beyonder" into "SW3"

HOTU never have that feats

The truth has been spoken

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Azathoth destroys Beyonder by accident

Just wake up

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Maybe this guy?

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@lorthanquinetas: Chaos Gods would get murked.

Beyonder doesn't even have the capacity to hang out with the Archetypes. Bringing in the Outer Gods is just overkill.