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#1 Edited by Consciouskeeper (990 posts) - - Show Bio
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#2 Edited by Iron_Tiger (310 posts) - - Show Bio

I like what he's wearing. White and gold go great together. As a Superman uniform? Even better. But, do we even know how much force Superman was striking with? I think it would help in determining a counterpart.

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#3 Posted by Consciouskeeper (990 posts) - - Show Bio

@iron_tiger: he has been trying to escape this dimension for some time and is rather desperate so I think it's safe to say he wasn't holding back..and I think he is new 52 and post crisis superman merged in one so he should be well above planetary in punching force

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@consciouskeeper: But that still doesn't give a numerical value to the force he used. If it's planetary or above, which planet is it based on?

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@iron_tiger: not sure. I'm actually trying to figure out when superman merged with new 52 ...but post crisis superman could destroy meteors that would shatter earth ect. So him alone is earth level planetary I would assume..at the very least he's above moon level for sure since he outright busted a moon.

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I think this might be when they merge? Idk
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#7 Posted by Iron_Tiger (310 posts) - - Show Bio

@consciouskeeper: I wouldn't know, man. I'm not caught up with the comics, myself.

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#8 Posted by Consciouskeeper (990 posts) - - Show Bio

@iron_tiger: current dc is crazy as hell I legit don't get what's going on

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#9 Edited by Iron_Tiger (310 posts) - - Show Bio

@consciouskeeper: They change a lot periodically, it's why it's so confusing to me. It's like, come on, pick a version of Superman and the others and stick with it. It's also the writers, whom struggle with keeping characters the same.

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@iron_tiger: agreed.

So I found out that yes mxy merged both new 52 and pre crisis superman. This is a pocket dimension made for superman(s) to wait until world maker shows up who is the maker of multiverse(s) and he is disguised as superman even down to his genetics. However superman is growing extremely weak in this pocket dimension. His attempts at flying away become almost leaps and when he throws his punch while normally because it's merged superman if should be above planetary he is weakened and we don't know to what extent so this ultimately not about the punch but more so the slam now..a weakened superman who can't even fly to escape the planet was slammed hard enough to send shockwaves through the void and wasn't even knocked out by it.

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#11 Posted by Iron_Tiger (310 posts) - - Show Bio

@consciouskeeper: I think because of that, no one can really answer whether anyone else can replicate the feat (if we're even calling it a feat). Now, if World Maker/Forger is comparable to say, Darkseid, then there are plenty of characters whom can utilize that feat. But, so far, I can't see anyone else doing it based on the lack of information.

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@consciouskeeper: I think because of that, no one can really answer whether anyone else can replicate the feat (if we're even calling it a feat). Now, if World Maker/Forger is comparable to say, Darkseid, then there are plenty of characters whom can utilize that feat. But, so far, I can't see anyone else doing it based on the lack of information.

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He seems to be portrayed as equal to anti monitor and monitor and has a feat of creating universes/the perfect multiverse.

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#13 Posted by CaptainSweatpan (974 posts) - - Show Bio

Assuming its Superman in his normal power levels

Most high tier DBS characters

Alot of other anime characters that make DBS characters look like Krillin

Thanos if he had the speed to block his punch effortlessly

World Breaker Hulk if he had the speed to block his punch effortlessly

Annihilation wave Annihilus if he had the speed

Tyrant if he had the speed

Odin

Quite alot of characters actually

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@consciouskeeper: IIRC merged N52 and Post-crisis Superman was depowered by Swampthing. Due to the fact that he was absorbing too much sunlight to the point where he began to disrupt the green.

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Any High tier DBS character even if it's Pre Crisis. That's not even EoS level.

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#18 Posted by jimcrim (235 posts) - - Show Bio

@consciouskeeper: IIRC merged N52 and Post-crisis Superman was depowered by Swampthing. Due to the fact that he was absorbing too much sunlight to the point where he began to disrupt the green.

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#19 Posted by cromulor (2203 posts) - - Show Bio

Who is that guy Superman is fighting in the op

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#20 Posted by Consciouskeeper (990 posts) - - Show Bio

@cromulor: word forger. He makes multiverses apparently

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#21 Posted by Consciouskeeper (990 posts) - - Show Bio

@thedeathstar: don't get this thread locked by bringing up dragonball

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#22 Posted by norsewinter (91 posts) - - Show Bio

That isnt superman tho (in white) that is actually the World Forger taking the form of superman using his Dna from the higher dimensional timeline.

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#23 Posted by Supermanthor (18773 posts) - - Show Bio

@cromulor said:

Who is that guy Superman is fighting in the op

new cosmic character

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#24 Posted by johnsmjs36 (317 posts) - - Show Bio

@supermanthor: What's his name? He kinda looks like an older Kal El.

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#27 Posted by Gaoron (8746 posts) - - Show Bio

Goku, duh

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#28 Posted by ZillaG (362 posts) - - Show Bio

The Thing.

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#29 Posted by johnsmjs36 (317 posts) - - Show Bio

@supermanthor: But why does he look like Superman? Is he an alternate version? Also comic

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#30 Posted by Supermanthor (18773 posts) - - Show Bio

@johnsmjs36: recent justice league by snyder

his disguises himself to be look like older clark in order to fool JL

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#31 Posted by johnsmjs36 (317 posts) - - Show Bio

@gaoron: @supermanthor: The shockwaves from Goku's punch can't even shake the rocks nearby let alone asteroids.

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@johnsmjs36 said:

@supermanthor: But why does he look like Superman? Is he an alternate version? Also comic

that is the world forger, brother to anti monitor and monitor and oldest son of perpetua.

he is a multiversal being and he can overwrite the multiverse with the stomp of his hammer. in the story he replicated superman's body using his genes

trying to scale world forger's feat for superman just because he is possessing the body of a superman clone is flawed because he is a multiversal being

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#33 Edited by Supermanthor (18773 posts) - - Show Bio

@johnsmjs36: dude when did I say that Goku can do this ?

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#34 Posted by TakenStew22 (627 posts) - - Show Bio

Are you talking about him tanking that? Anything Hulk tier should do it easily.

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#35 Edited by johnsmjs36 (317 posts) - - Show Bio

@supermanthor: Sorry for tagging you. Wait isn't he the one trying to remake the multiverse in sixth dimension or something

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#38 Posted by Gaoron (8746 posts) - - Show Bio

@gaoron: @supermanthor: The shockwaves from Goku's punch can't even shake the rocks nearby let alone asteroids.

Wut?

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Shockwaves reaching all the way to Kaioshin Realm outside of the universe.

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#39 Posted by johnsmjs36 (317 posts) - - Show Bio

@supermanthor: But what is happening in dc. They are introducing new multiverse creators every new issue. And apparently everybody created the multiverse. Pralaya, monitors, Perpetua, etc is there even a single supreme being anymore

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@gaoron: which story line is this from ?

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#41 Posted by johnsmjs36 (317 posts) - - Show Bio

@gaoron: Well, it didn't even do anything

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@johnsmjs36 said:

@supermanthor: But what is happening in dc. They are introducing new multiverse creators every new issue. And apparently everybody created the multiverse. Pralaya, monitors, Perpetua, etc is there even a single supreme being anymore

its dc realizing that there cosmic stuff is way beyond gl myths

and no for dc supreme beings varies writer to writer

i think @norsewinter can explain you better

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#43 Posted by Gaoron (8746 posts) - - Show Bio

@supermanthor: Battle of Gods manga retelling. It's Dragon Ball Super chapters 1-4.

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#48 Posted by Lan_Fan (13128 posts) - - Show Bio

616 Thing.

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@gaoron: Well, it didn't even do anything

The little vibrating lines near Earth and Moon are there to show movement, impact of the clash shock them. But what makes this impressive is not shaking Earth and Moon but impact being so strong its felt even outside the universe (the lightning looking thing is impact/shockwave of the clash)

And just so you know one scan after this guy punched Superman shows small street tier crater.... so yeah, using environmental destruction for lowball is not the way to judge a feat.

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#50 Posted by norsewinter (91 posts) - - Show Bio

@supermanthor: DBS. Battle of gods.

dc keeps on retconning its cosmology hierarchy because dc is not focused on cosmic characters. its main characters are street level and herald superheroes and supervillains.

every single "multiverse crisis" is a thinly veiled excuse at either a reboot like coie or final crisis, or 1 writers dozing off getting high writing multiverse stuff like pralaya in justice league dark.