Who can beat Zoom?

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#1  Edited By MrDirector786

There's a thread of who can beat Zoom in a race, but who can beat him in a fight? List anyone you want.

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#2  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
The Spectre.
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#3  Edited By spiderpigbart

Molecule Man.

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#4  Edited By AtPhantom

I think we already had a thread like this but i can't find it...
 
Anyway, Doctor Manhattan, Deadman and just about anyone else who doesn't care about physical damage.

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#5  Edited By AtPhantom
@spiderpigbart said:
" Molecule Man. "
No. Too slow.
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#6  Edited By Psyker star
@AtPhantom said:
" I think we already had a thread like this but i can't find it...  Anyway, Doctor Manhattan, Deadman and just about anyone else who doesn't care about physical damage. "
Zoom could  beat Dr Manhattan
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#7  Edited By spiderpigbart
@AtPhantom said:
" @spiderpigbart said:
" Molecule Man. "
No. Too slow. "
He could heat the molecules of the air to an extreme level, making Zoom go Boom.
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#8  Edited By AtPhantom

 @Psyker star said:

"Zoom could  beat Dr Manhattan "

How?

@spiderpigbart

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" He could heat the molecules of the air to an extreme level, making Zoom go Boom. "

Read what I write.
@AtPhantom said:

" Too slow. "

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#9  Edited By MrDirector786

I'm not sure if there was a thread like this already. I used the search function before I made this thread and didn't find one.

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#10  Edited By geraldthesloth

Detective Chimp

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#11  Edited By Matezoide2
@AtPhantom said:

" @spiderpigbart said:

" Molecule Man. "

No. Too slow. "
i may be wrong,but cant Molecule reform his molecules and heal from damage or something like that?
besides,he was fighting the Beyonder,i think he can take Zoom's hits,but thats just me
 
 @geraldthesloth said:

" Detective Chimp "

  he will throw a BANANA at him,making Zoom slip
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#12  Edited By AtPhantom
@MrDirector786 said:

" I'm not sure if there was a thread like this already. I used the search function before I made this thread and didn't find one. "

I'm pretty sure I responded to this before, but I haven't been able to find it either. Oh well...
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#13  Edited By AtPhantom
@Matezoide said:
" i may be wrong,but cant Molecule reform his molecules and heal from damage or something like that?
besides,he was fighting the Beyonder,i think he can take Zoom's hits,but thats just me "
Wasn't that PR molecule man or something? I've certainly never seen him heal from anything, but I'm not an expert on the guy.
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#14  Edited By MrDirector786
@Matezoide said:
" @AtPhantom said:

" @spiderpigbart said:

" Molecule Man. "

No. Too slow. "
i may be wrong,but cant Molecule reform his molecules and heal from damage or something like that?
besides,he was fighting the Beyonder,i think he can take Zoom's hits,but thats just me
 


That was Pre-Retcon Molecule Man.
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#15  Edited By Perfect Cell

Someone who is a time and space manipulator.
 
I even think Viewtiful Joe and Dante (Quicksilver Mode) might be able to do the trick.

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Oh and the Dog from the Okami.

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#17  Edited By AtPhantom
@Perfect Cell said:
" Someone who is a time and space manipulator.  I even think Viewtiful Joe and Dante (Quicksilver Mode) might be able to do the trick. "
Not unless they can survive the first nano-second of the fight. That's the main problem with Zoom. It's not that they don't have the power, it's that they don't get to use it.
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#18  Edited By Sparda
@AtPhantom said:
" @Perfect Cell said:
" Someone who is a time and space manipulator.  I even think Viewtiful Joe and Dante (Quicksilver Mode) might be able to do the trick. "
Not unless they can survive the first nano-second of the fight. That's the main problem with Zoom. It's not that they don't have the power, it's that they don't get to use it. "
Joe could, I don't think Dante would though.
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#19  Edited By MrDirector786

Yeah, I don't think Dante can. According to the game itself, in quicksilver mode, Dante is just moving at super-high speeds, not actually slowing down time. And seeing how Zoom can slow down time so much the Flash appears in slow motion to him, I don't think Dante's quicksilver would be much different.

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#20  Edited By mynewb

Im going to have to say...
SA superman, Superman prime one million, superman with sword of superman, One above all , the presence, ToA, Squirrel girl (maybe..)

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#21  Edited By Scarecrow King

Silver Age Superman should be able to beat him.  
 
Galactus.
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#22  Edited By Matezoide2
@Sparda said:
" @AtPhantom said:
" @Perfect Cell said:
" Someone who is a time and space manipulator.  I even think Viewtiful Joe and Dante (Quicksilver Mode) might be able to do the trick. "
Not unless they can survive the first nano-second of the fight. That's the main problem with Zoom. It's not that they don't have the power, it's that they don't get to use it. "
Joe could, I don't think Dante would though. "
if Joe can use the slowdown before the fight starts,possibly,but i am not sure if that is still enought to fight Zoom
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#23  Edited By Sparda
@Matezoide said:
"if Joe can use the slowdown before the fight starts,possibly,but i am not sure if that is still enought to fight Zoom "
That, and I think he could activate it right when the fight starts. As long as he manages to activate it before he goes down he could fight back.
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#24  Edited By Doorknobs

Killer Croc :o

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#25  Edited By Zoom

Whats sad is that this isn't the first "who can beat Zoom" thread. 
 
Beating Zoom in a battle forum is very simple. 
 
You are either a) physically invulnerable and immune to sonics and have a power (such as telepathy or reality warping) that allows you to ko someone without hitting them or the ability to predict where Zoom will be, b) be as fast as Zoom or c) be Squirrel Girl.  So characters like Dr Manhatten, the Spectre and Squirrel Girl can definately take him. 
 
Of course, in actual comic books there are several other ways to beat him like ambushes, plot devices or getting him to underestimate you and voluntarily reduce his speed.
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There was one locked about 11 months ago, and I thought I started one recently, but apearently not, lol. 
 
Anyway, here was one possibility posted way back then:
 
 
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#27  Edited By star notes

jean with the phoenix force beats him..

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#28  Edited By xyrzrockrain

Pre-Retcon Molecule Man

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#29  Edited By MrDirector786
@Zoom said:
" Whats sad is that this isn't the first "who can beat Zoom" thread.  Beating Zoom in a battle forum is very simple.  You are either a) physically invulnerable and immune to sonics and have a power (such as telepathy or reality warping) that allows you to ko someone without hitting them or the ability to predict where Zoom will be, b) be as fast as Zoom or c) be Squirrel Girl.  So characters like Dr Manhatten, the Spectre and Squirrel Girl can definately take him.  Of course, in actual comic books there are several other ways to beat him like ambushes, plot devices or getting him to underestimate you and voluntarily reduce his speed. "
I know this isn't the first who can beat Zoom thread. It's just that I couldn't find any others when I used the search function, so I just made one.
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#30  Edited By SwaggaB0y

Wolverine

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#31  Edited By chaos-soul

kid buu

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#32  Edited By SwaggaB0y
@chaos-soul said:
" kid buu "
no
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#33  Edited By Perfect Cell

Trunks goes back in time to save Zoom before he got his powers.

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#34  Edited By chaos-soul
@Perfect Cell: lol dude
@SwaggaB0y:
he said h2h fight. kid buu pwns
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#35  Edited By SwaggaB0y
@chaos-soul said:
" @Perfect Cell: lol dude
@SwaggaB0y: he said h2h fight. kid buu pwns "

Zoom is faster then him Buu would never touch him.
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#36  Edited By castleking

what about the girl that can stop time and exist out of it..... not sure if she was with run away

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#37  Edited By Jx4gz
@Perfect Cell said:
" Trunks goes back in time to save Zoom before he got his powers. "
That would only effect Zoom from a different timeline, and not the Zoom that he is fighting
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spawn 
juggernaut 
ghost rider 
spectre 
living tribunal 
beyonder 
man of miracles 
precence 

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#39  Edited By spiderpigbart
@xyrzrockrain said:
" Pre-Retcon Molecule Man "
That's what I meant.
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#40  Edited By xyrzrockrain
@spiderpigbart:  
 
Yup. Zoom cant touch him. He has the reaction time to beat zoom.
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#41  Edited By spiderpigbart
@xyrzrockrain: Hear Hear.
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#42  Edited By Zoom
@xyrzrockrain said:
"Molecule Man has the reaction time to beat zoom. "
He reeeeeeeeally doesn't.
 
 
@Jx4gz said:
" @Perfect Cell said:
" Trunks goes back in time to save Zoom before he got his powers. "
That would only effect Zoom from a different timeline, and not the Zoom that he is fighting "
Marvel may claim that time travel only creates alternate universes but from the number of people who have come back in time to 616 earth, we know this isn't always true. 
 
On DC, it doesn't create a new timeline.  There is one timeline.  You can change the past.  IIRC, the same is true for DBZ. 
 

@castleking
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"what about the girl that can stop time and exist out of it..... not sure if she was with run away "

Kiden Nixon? 
 
Dunno.  Nobody here has read her book and Flash's. 
 
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#43  Edited By Zoom
@MOONKNIGHT-LANTERN said:
"spawn juggernaut ghost rider spectre living tribunal beyonder man of miracles precence  "
Some versions of spawn, not Juggernaut (though Zoom can't ko him either), not Ghost Rider (though Zoom can't ko him either), yes Spectre, yes LT, yes Beyonder, not sure on MoM, yes Precence.
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#44  Edited By MrDirector786

In DC, the only way to alter a timeline is to do it from the beginning, ie the Dawn of time. This was stated in COIE.

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#45  Edited By xyrzrockrain
Molecule Man's reaction speed. Beyonder attacked with a beam that went through the ends of infinity in a matter of seconds yet Molecule Man (after using almost all his energy) was able to remove ALL THE LIVING BEINGS to a place somewhere. I think it is safe to say that if that beam is fast enough to travel through the ends of infinity (WTF?! Ends of infinity?!) it is traveling WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY faster than light.
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#46  Edited By Niko04

what about juggernaut?

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The Runner.

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#48  Edited By Zoom
@xyrzrockrain said:
"Molecule Man's reaction speed. Beyonder attacked with a beam that went through the ends of infinity in a matter of seconds yet Molecule Man (after using almost all his energy) was able to remove ALL THE LIVING BEINGS to a place somewhere. I think it is safe to say that if that beam is fast enough to travel through the ends of infinity (WTF?! Ends of infinity?!) it is traveling WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY faster than light.
 
 

 
 
"

 

 
 
 
Exactly.  wtf is ends of infinity?  And those scans are too small to be seen.  Try again? 
 
  @Niko04
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"what about juggernaut? "

What about him?  How is he going to ever hit Zoom unless Zoom lets him? 

 
@Simon Williams said:

"The Runner. "
No.  Barry Allen outran the Runner.  He's not even close to Zoom.

@MrDirector786 said:
"In DC, the only way to alter a timeline is to do it from the beginning, ie the Dawn of time. This was stated in COIE. "
And yet, dozens of characters like Waverider, Rip Hunter and the Flash have changed the past.  
 

 
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#49  Edited By Sparda
@Zoom said:
" No.  Barry Allen outran the Runner.  He's not even close to Zoom."
Barry Allen outran the Runner from Marvel (in a crossover), or is there a Runner in DC, too? I did a search here for Runner and I only got the Marvel character.
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#50  Edited By xyrzrockrain
@Zoom:  
   
First scan 
  
  
 
Second scan