There's a thread of who can beat Zoom in a race, but who can beat him in a fight? List anyone you want.
Who can beat Zoom?
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" I think we already had a thread like this but i can't find it... Anyway, Doctor Manhattan, Deadman and just about anyone else who doesn't care about physical damage. "Zoom could beat Dr Manhattan
" @spiderpigbart said:He could heat the molecules of the air to an extreme level, making Zoom go Boom." Molecule Man. "No. Too slow. "
I'm not sure if there was a thread like this already. I used the search function before I made this thread and didn't find one.
i may be wrong,but cant Molecule reform his molecules and heal from damage or something like that?" @spiderpigbart said:
No. Too slow. "" Molecule Man. "
besides,he was fighting the Beyonder,i think he can take Zoom's hits,but thats just me
@geraldthesloth said:
he will throw a BANANA at him,making Zoom slip" Detective Chimp "
" i may be wrong,but cant Molecule reform his molecules and heal from damage or something like that?Wasn't that PR molecule man or something? I've certainly never seen him heal from anything, but I'm not an expert on the guy.
besides,he was fighting the Beyonder,i think he can take Zoom's hits,but thats just me "
" @AtPhantom said:i may be wrong,but cant Molecule reform his molecules and heal from damage or something like that?" @spiderpigbart said:
No. Too slow. "" Molecule Man. "
besides,he was fighting the Beyonder,i think he can take Zoom's hits,but thats just me
That was Pre-Retcon Molecule Man.
Someone who is a time and space manipulator.
I even think Viewtiful Joe and Dante (Quicksilver Mode) might be able to do the trick.
" Someone who is a time and space manipulator. I even think Viewtiful Joe and Dante (Quicksilver Mode) might be able to do the trick. "Not unless they can survive the first nano-second of the fight. That's the main problem with Zoom. It's not that they don't have the power, it's that they don't get to use it.
" @Perfect Cell said:Joe could, I don't think Dante would though." Someone who is a time and space manipulator. I even think Viewtiful Joe and Dante (Quicksilver Mode) might be able to do the trick. "Not unless they can survive the first nano-second of the fight. That's the main problem with Zoom. It's not that they don't have the power, it's that they don't get to use it. "
Yeah, I don't think Dante can. According to the game itself, in quicksilver mode, Dante is just moving at super-high speeds, not actually slowing down time. And seeing how Zoom can slow down time so much the Flash appears in slow motion to him, I don't think Dante's quicksilver would be much different.
" @AtPhantom said:if Joe can use the slowdown before the fight starts,possibly,but i am not sure if that is still enought to fight Zoom" @Perfect Cell said:Joe could, I don't think Dante would though. "" Someone who is a time and space manipulator. I even think Viewtiful Joe and Dante (Quicksilver Mode) might be able to do the trick. "Not unless they can survive the first nano-second of the fight. That's the main problem with Zoom. It's not that they don't have the power, it's that they don't get to use it. "
"if Joe can use the slowdown before the fight starts,possibly,but i am not sure if that is still enought to fight Zoom "That, and I think he could activate it right when the fight starts. As long as he manages to activate it before he goes down he could fight back.
Whats sad is that this isn't the first "who can beat Zoom" thread.
Beating Zoom in a battle forum is very simple.
You are either a) physically invulnerable and immune to sonics and have a power (such as telepathy or reality warping) that allows you to ko someone without hitting them or the ability to predict where Zoom will be, b) be as fast as Zoom or c) be Squirrel Girl. So characters like Dr Manhatten, the Spectre and Squirrel Girl can definately take him.
Of course, in actual comic books there are several other ways to beat him like ambushes, plot devices or getting him to underestimate you and voluntarily reduce his speed.
There was one locked about 11 months ago, and I thought I started one recently, but apearently not, lol.
Anyway, here was one possibility posted way back then:
" Whats sad is that this isn't the first "who can beat Zoom" thread. Beating Zoom in a battle forum is very simple. You are either a) physically invulnerable and immune to sonics and have a power (such as telepathy or reality warping) that allows you to ko someone without hitting them or the ability to predict where Zoom will be, b) be as fast as Zoom or c) be Squirrel Girl. So characters like Dr Manhatten, the Spectre and Squirrel Girl can definately take him. Of course, in actual comic books there are several other ways to beat him like ambushes, plot devices or getting him to underestimate you and voluntarily reduce his speed. "I know this isn't the first who can beat Zoom thread. It's just that I couldn't find any others when I used the search function, so I just made one.
"Molecule Man has the reaction time to beat zoom. "He reeeeeeeeally doesn't.
@Jx4gz said:
" @Perfect Cell said:Marvel may claim that time travel only creates alternate universes but from the number of people who have come back in time to 616 earth, we know this isn't always true." Trunks goes back in time to save Zoom before he got his powers. "That would only effect Zoom from a different timeline, and not the Zoom that he is fighting "
On DC, it doesn't create a new timeline. There is one timeline. You can change the past. IIRC, the same is true for DBZ.
@castleking said:
"what about the girl that can stop time and exist out of it..... not sure if she was with run away "
Kiden Nixon?
Dunno. Nobody here has read her book and Flash's.
"spawn juggernaut ghost rider spectre living tribunal beyonder man of miracles precence "Some versions of spawn, not Juggernaut (though Zoom can't ko him either), not Ghost Rider (though Zoom can't ko him either), yes Spectre, yes LT, yes Beyonder, not sure on MoM, yes Precence.
In DC, the only way to alter a timeline is to do it from the beginning, ie the Dawn of time. This was stated in COIE.
"Molecule Man's reaction speed. Beyonder attacked with a beam that went through the ends of infinity in a matter of seconds yet Molecule Man (after using almost all his energy) was able to remove ALL THE LIVING BEINGS to a place somewhere. I think it is safe to say that if that beam is fast enough to travel through the ends of infinity (WTF?! Ends of infinity?!) it is traveling WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY faster than light.
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Exactly. wtf is ends of infinity? And those scans are too small to be seen. Try again?
@Niko04 said:
"what about juggernaut? "
What about him? How is he going to ever hit Zoom unless Zoom lets him?
@Simon Williams said:
"The Runner. "No. Barry Allen outran the Runner. He's not even close to Zoom.
@MrDirector786 said:
"In DC, the only way to alter a timeline is to do it from the beginning, ie the Dawn of time. This was stated in COIE. "And yet, dozens of characters like Waverider, Rip Hunter and the Flash have changed the past.
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