Alright its obvious lot of you think Zoom can't be beaten by many characters. So my question is who can beat Zoom? What would it take.
Who can beat Zoom
I'd say...
- Anyone with the Worlogog, Time Gem, or similar device.
- Juggernaut or anyone else immune to physical damage - although it would be a stalemate until Zoom dies of old age.
- Solaris, Ego, or anyone too big for Zoom to beat.
- Kal Kent level and up.
"Indeed... but its the power that Infinite Man has... his ability to alter and manipulate Time on a large scale...King Saturn said:
"Infinite Man and Time Trapper
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but Darkseid beat the hell out of infinite Man.
BTW - Darkseid beat the Time Trapper too
Korvac.
The Runner (imo).
Black Flash.
Ion Kyle Rayner.
Too name but a few.
With prep.
Dr Strange.
Batman.
Mr Fantastic.
Forge.
List could be endless imo.
Nobody, apparently Zoom is unbeatable, even though he was one shotted by what's her face he can't be beatean by anyone.
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Zoom is so powerful for two reasons.
1) He's damn fast so he can usually hit you first and hard. Most people can't stand up to a million superman level punches in under a second.
2) He's damn fast so usually, the other guy can't hit him. He's too fast for even the Flash, which makes him too fast for anybody to fight in a purely physical way, even if they are incredibly fast in their own right.
How do you beat him? Well you counter those things.
Physical invulnerability (either Juggernaut style or Deadman style or Ghost Rider style should work fine) is the best way to counter the first problem. "Can't touch this" defensive powers like Chunk's or Mano's can potentially make him beat himself too, if he doesn't know about the character. Keep in mind, Zoom is a criminal profiler and an ex-member of Alex Luthor's Society which means he knows most DC heroes and villains.
To counter that second one, you need something that doesn't require aim. Telepathic attacks and reality warping come to mind first.
Problem is, there aren't a whole heck of a lot of characters that are both physically invulnerable and have telepathic attacks. Reality warpers are your best bet.
"Zoom is so powerful for two reasons.the form of juggernaut where proffessor x got the crystal should do it.
1) He's damn fast so he can usually hit you first and hard. Most people can't stand up to a million superman level punches in under a second.
2) He's damn fast so usually, the other guy can't hit him. He's too fast for even the Flash, which makes him too fast for anybody to fight in a purely physical way, even if they are incredibly fast in their own right.
How do you beat him? Well you counter those things.
Physical invulnerability (either Juggernaut style or Deadman style or Ghost Rider style should work fine) is the best way to counter the first problem. "Can't touch this" defensive powers like Chunk's or Mano's can potentially make him beat himself too, if he doesn't know about the character. Keep in mind, Zoom is a criminal profiler and an ex-member of Alex Luthor's Society which means he knows most DC heroes and villains.
To counter that second one, you need something that doesn't require aim. Telepathic attacks and reality warping come to mind first.
Problem is, there aren't a whole heck of a lot of characters that are both physically invulnerable and have telepathic attacks. Reality warpers are your best bet."
"Or you can use a time manipulator to negate his abilities.That falls into number two...maybe.
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You still have to stand up to his attack first.
claws said:
"is ghostrider immune to physical damage if so then he could possibly beat him"He heals instantly, even from decapitation or dismemberment. He's also got a "can't touch this" hellfire thing going on. Its possible for him to beat Zoom. Its also possible Zoom will figure out his shtick too quickly and it'll turn into a draw. Course, Zoom can BFR him if you allow that crap.
kaino12 said:
"the form of juggernaut where proffessor x got the crystal should do it."True. That story did suck though. Xavier makes a horrible Juggernaut.
"Dreadnaught said:Aren't time manipulators capable of reacting as fast as they want by definition?"Or you can use a time manipulator to negate his abilities.That falls into number two...maybe.
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You still have to stand up to his attack first.
claws said:"is ghostrider immune to physical damage if so then he could possibly beat him"He heals instantly, even from decapitation or dismemberment. He's also got a "can't touch this" hellfire thing going on. Its possible for him to beat Zoom. Its also possible Zoom will figure out his shtick too quickly and it'll turn into a draw. Course, Zoom can BFR him if you allow that crap.
kaino12 said:"the form of juggernaut where proffessor x got the crystal should do it."True. That story did suck though. Xavier makes a horrible Juggernaut.
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"Simon Williams said:I forgot about him, there is many marvel people who can beat him."Sentryhey i like marvel alot too and i suport that in the marvel u things would be alot differnt but zoom's back story holds up even there and he'd be unbeatable there too. also why did u put sentery and not gladiator?
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"kaino12 said:"Simon Williams said:I forgot about him, there is many marvel people who can beat him."Sentryhey i like marvel alot too and i suport that in the marvel u things would be alot differnt but zoom's back story holds up even there and he'd be unbeatable there too. also why did u put sentery and not gladiator?
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only reality warpers.
"kaino12 said:You mean there are many marvel characters that are capable of beating him."Simon Williams said:I forgot about him, there is many marvel people who can beat him."Sentryhey i like marvel alot too and i suport that in the marvel u things would be alot differnt but zoom's back story holds up even there and he'd be unbeatable there too. also why did u put sentery and not gladiator?
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"Simon Williams said:they bearly tolerate me and many of them hate me."kaino12 said:You mean there are many marvel characters that are capable of beating him."Simon Williams said:I forgot about him, there is many marvel people who can beat him."Sentryhey i like marvel alot too and i suport that in the marvel u things would be alot differnt but zoom's back story holds up even there and he'd be unbeatable there too. also why did u put sentery and not gladiator?
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"Dreadnaught said:Your issue is with both grammar, and spelling."Simon Williams said:they bearly tolerate me and many of them hate me."kaino12 said:You mean there are many marvel characters that are capable of beating him."Simon Williams said:I forgot about him, there is many marvel people who can beat him."Sentryhey i like marvel alot too and i suport that in the marvel u things would be alot differnt but zoom's back story holds up even there and he'd be unbeatable there too. also why did u put sentery and not gladiator?
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"kaino12 said:hey i write like i talk with bad grammer and little to no puncuation. but i actualy have imaculent diction so when i talk u know what im saying."Dreadnaught said:Your issue is with both grammar, and spelling."Simon Williams said:they bearly tolerate me and many of them hate me."kaino12 said:You mean there are many marvel characters that are capable of beating him."Simon Williams said:I forgot about him, there is many marvel people who can beat him."Sentryhey i like marvel alot too and i suport that in the marvel u things would be alot differnt but zoom's back story holds up even there and he'd be unbeatable there too. also why did u put sentery and not gladiator?
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"Simon Williams said:Seriously did I dump you in the Past, because You annoy and bug me nonstop."kaino12 said:You mean there are many marvel characters that are capable of beating him."Simon Williams said:I forgot about him, there is many marvel people who can beat him."Sentryhey i like marvel alot too and i suport that in the marvel u things would be alot differnt but zoom's back story holds up even there and he'd be unbeatable there too. also why did u put sentery and not gladiator?
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"Dreadnaught said:No now instead of being mean to people with less than 1,000 posts, I'm mean to anyone with less than 10,000 unless they earn my respect."Simon Williams said:Seriously did I dump you in the Past, because You annoy and bug me nonstop."kaino12 said:You mean there are many marvel characters that are capable of beating him."Simon Williams said:I forgot about him, there is many marvel people who can beat him."Sentryhey i like marvel alot too and i suport that in the marvel u things would be alot differnt but zoom's back story holds up even there and he'd be unbeatable there too. also why did u put sentery and not gladiator?
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You, probably will never end up gaining mine, mainly due to your near complete lack of sentence structure.
"Simon Williams said:I definitely dumped you in the Past. I don;t need your Respect, I don't need anything from You."Dreadnaught said:No now instead of being mean to people with less than 1,000 posts, I'm mean to anyone with less than 10,000 unless they earn my respect."Simon Williams said:Seriously did I dump you in the Past, because You annoy and bug me nonstop."kaino12 said:You mean there are many marvel characters that are capable of beating him."Simon Williams said:I forgot about him, there is many marvel people who can beat him."Sentryhey i like marvel alot too and i suport that in the marvel u things would be alot differnt but zoom's back story holds up even there and he'd be unbeatable there too. also why did u put sentery and not gladiator?
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"SeSAW said:"Indeed... but its the power that Infinite Man has... his ability to alter and manipulate Time on a large scale...King Saturn said:
"Infinite Man and Time Trapper
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but Darkseid beat the hell out of infinite Man.
BTW - Darkseid beat the Time Trapper too
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True but that power didn't work on DS he was too powerful, Time Trappers didn't either which is why i say Zooms power probably wont even work on DS.
"Dreadnaught said:I probably never lived anywhere near you. But I'll let you keep your odd little fantasy."Simon Williams said:I definitely dumped you in the Past. I don;t need your Respect, I don't need anything from You."Dreadnaught said:No now instead of being mean to people with less than 1,000 posts, I'm mean to anyone with less than 10,000 unless they earn my respect."Simon Williams said:Seriously did I dump you in the Past, because You annoy and bug me nonstop."kaino12 said:You mean there are many marvel characters that are capable of beating him."Simon Williams said:I forgot about him, there is many marvel people who can beat him."Sentryhey i like marvel alot too and i suport that in the marvel u things would be alot differnt but zoom's back story holds up even there and he'd be unbeatable there too. also why did u put sentery and not gladiator?
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"King Saturn said:Here is the thing though...Zoom uses his Time Manipulation powers for specifically Speed and Fighting purposes within a battle... where as the Time Trapper and Infinite Man seemed to use there Time Manipulation powers for Reality Warping like purposes... but also keep in mind I believe it was Pre Crisis Darkseid that beat Time Trapper and Infinite Man... not the Post Crisis version... and based on the principle of Zoom's use of Time Manipulation of Super Speed purposes... I cant see Darkseid actually hitting Zoom"SeSAW said:"Indeed... but its the power that Infinite Man has... his ability to alter and manipulate Time on a large scale...King Saturn said:
"Infinite Man and Time Trapper
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but Darkseid beat the hell out of infinite Man.
BTW - Darkseid beat the Time Trapper too
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True but that power didn't work on DS he was too powerful, Time Trappers didn't either which is why i say Zooms power probably wont even work on DS."
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