Who can beat the Ivory Kings (Spoilers)

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The Beyonders are easily the strongest beings ever to show up in the Marvel Omniverse:

  1. A single Beyonder going to each universe and destroying the whole Celestial race in it.
  2. Single Beyonders killing the abstracts of each universe
  3. A group of them taking out the Living Tribunal

Who stops them, why, based on what?

*No TOAA or Presence type beings*

#2 mr_ingenuity  Moderator

3 Living Tribunals.

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@pern: Who the heck are all of those people, they don't even look like Surfer level beings :(

@mr_ingenuity: 9 Ivory Kings disagree :P

#6 mr_ingenuity  Moderator

Pre-retcon beyonder

Thanos with the HOTU is valid?

@sophia89 said:

A single Beyonder can crunch multiverses with ease,the only reason they didn't kill the entire omniverse is because they needed to kill all abstract+ beings in it first which took them time. So nothing short of a Multiversal being can.

So maybe this team:

Protege+LT+Scathan/Tiamut/1000+ celestials can.

How many beyonders do exist? Because I don't think that this team can handle more than 10 of them.

@hiddenlight: I think there's a race of them, based on passed showings and stuff, but there have been 3 on panel

Wonder Woman + Blue Marvel

Squirr... Nevermind. Lol

Storm, Toph, Batman, DBZ crew, Thanos, Aquaman, Wally West, Zoom & Professor Zoom, Aizen, Naruto, Superman and Sentry together with perfect teamwork.

Damm defeat the friggin beyonders..

Im not really sure who can solo this mighty race but i will give some opinions

Yuki Nagato

Demonbane high tiers

anyone from suggsverse

Thanos with hotu

Touhou Mid tiers

Divine Spawn

Bernkastel

3 personality Shiki Ryougi

Lucifer and/or Michael

and some others i cant remember now

I guess we know now who killed LT.

@tensor said:

I guess we know now who killed LT.

The question is, if the Living Tribunal is Multiversal and he fought against the Ivory kings in many universes at the same time... Why the hell his body would be in the 616 moon? I mean, from all the places in the multiverse, why there?

@tensor said:

I guess we know now who killed LT.

The question is, if the Living Tribunal is Multiversal and he fought against the Ivory kings in many universes at the same time... Why the hell his body would be in the 616 moon? I mean, from all the places in the multiverse, why there?

It wasn't, the story outright says his body was shattered into many pieces and each piece fell into a different universe. The body on the moon was just a piece of the LT's real body.

@saren: Thank you :3 I need those new issues right now

@pern: Who the heck are all of those people, they don't even look like Surfer level beings :(

@mr_ingenuity: 9 Ivory Kings disagree :P

So you judge people by their looks? Everyone listed is a metaversal + being.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA! You said Suggsverse characters weren't Surfer level beings?

You might want to check this page out.

http://suggsverse.wikia.com/wiki/Cosmic_Hierarchy

Damm defeat the friggin beyonders..

Im not really sure who can solo this mighty race but i will give some opinions

Yuki Nagato

Demonbane high tiers

anyone from suggsverse

Thanos with hotu

Touhou Mid tiers

Divine Spawn

Bernkastel

3 personality Shiki Ryougi

Lucifer and/or Michael

and some others i cant remember now

Divine Spawn, Shiki, and Yuki are completely out of their leagues here. I don't know much about Touhou, and honestly Lucifer and Michael wouldn't even be at LT levels. The rest of your list probably could do it however.

Interesting :)

@hiddenlight: It wasn't just on the 616 moon, it was on all the moons in every reality

@pern: Who the heck are all of those people, they don't even look like Surfer level beings :(

@mr_ingenuity: 9 Ivory Kings disagree :P

Those guys that Pern posted (at least the first 3) are people who could casually stomp pre-retcon Beyonder. One of them has the power to stomp someone who can casually destroy infinite different multiverses over 400,000,000 times on every plane of existence by simply looking at her. Another has the power to create hundreds of millions of gods each arguably the power of Beyonder to serve him, and can completely erase any supernatural power that isn't on his level. Another casually slaughters gods who can blink trillions of multiverses out of existence.

@pern: Why not?

Divine Spawn is way above omega spawn who could destroy the omniverse

Yuki stole the powers of haruhi and has too much hax

Shiki is akasha (aalmost true omnipotent) and can kill everything

And i always tought Michael and lucifer were way above LT

lets not Start on touhou the friggin cannon fodder Have infinite power

But we gotta agree that batman solos

Do the Ivory Kings stack up to the Pre Retcon Beyonder? Cause he was omnipotent

@lunaticredeyes: I thought Spawn was only universal? Shiki and Yuki are also only universal. L and M arent at LTs level imo but either way it would be close.

All Hope Lies In Doom

@trionace said:

Do the Ivory Kings stack up to the Pre Retcon Beyonder? Cause he was omnipotent

They are probably even, a few of them were enough to defeat the Living Tribunal, the Beyonder alone can't stand the entire race.

@hiddenlight: I'm a little skeptical because PR Beyonder made LT look weak

@trionace said:

Do the Ivory Kings stack up to the Pre Retcon Beyonder? Cause he was omnipotent

They are probably even, a few of them were enough to defeat the Living Tribunal, the Beyonder alone can't stand the entire race.

Wasn't one of them one-shotting Celestials? And I just had my mind blow after reading that chapter and I could have sworn I saw one of them beating up Eternity.

One Living Tribunal per Beyonder.

@micah said:

@hiddenlight said:

@trionace said:

Do the Ivory Kings stack up to the Pre Retcon Beyonder? Cause he was omnipotent

They are probably even, a few of them were enough to defeat the Living Tribunal, the Beyonder alone can't stand the entire race.

Wasn't one of them one-shotting Celestials? And I just had my mind blow after reading that chapter and I could have sworn I saw one of them beating up Eternity.

They did it, each one of them soloed all of the abstracts and celestials from each universe, but they had to join forces to kill the Living Tribunal. It was mentioned that the Beyonder that we've seen in the Secret Wars is just a playful child, they are the adults and they don't like games like our Beyonder.

@trionace said:

@hiddenlight: I'm a little skeptical because PR Beyonder made LT look weak

I personally think that the current Living Tribunal was retconned, in the past he was stalemated by mystical beings summoned by Doctor Strange, a lot of weird things happened to him in his career. Now he is portrayed as the most powerful thing in existence (Besides TOAA), or at least, he was, before being killed by the Beyonders.

One Living Tribunal per Beyonder.

All of them attacked the same Living Tribunal at the same time (There is only one Living Tribunal).

@micah said:

@hiddenlight said:

@trionace said:

Do the Ivory Kings stack up to the Pre Retcon Beyonder? Cause he was omnipotent

They are probably even, a few of them were enough to defeat the Living Tribunal, the Beyonder alone can't stand the entire race.

Wasn't one of them one-shotting Celestials? And I just had my mind blow after reading that chapter and I could have sworn I saw one of them beating up Eternity.

They did it, each one of them soloed all of the abstracts and celestials from each universe, but they had to join forces to kill the Living Tribunal. It was mentioned that the Beyonder that we've seen in the Secret Wars is just a playful child, they are the adults and they don't like games like our Beyonder.

My mind is still honestly blown...........the fact that just one of them has that level of power to kill entire legions of Celestials and ALL of the Abstracts with the utmost of ease is almost scary if I may be dramatic for a moment LOL. The Living Tribunal fought hard but in the end he went down swinging. I actually felt bad for the dude he died protecting all of creation. I cannot wait for Secret Wars!!!!!

Before I say anything, know that i'm not betting on my team at all. I'm just saying they have a tiny shot at somewhat surviving them at least.

Mephisto (in his own realm)

Dormammu (in his own realm)

Cytorrak (in his own realm)

Pretty much anyone who is invincible in their own realm. However, that would require the Beyonders entering those realms in the first place. In any case, those fights would be interesting to see.

@masterofevil: I assume they will lose since none off them are more powerful then LT even in their own realm... The only thing i can think off that will be able to hold them off if is someone got a hold off HOTU.

@pern: Who the heck are all of those people, they don't even look like Surfer level beings :(

Same goes for beyonders, though, so there's nothing to be worried about.

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These three are just examples. There's a lot more.

@pern: thanks for clogging up the thread full of wrong answers

Pre-Retcon Beyonder, Pre-Retcon Molecule Man (probably), PC/WF Mister Mxyzptlk or Bat-Mite, Synnar the Demiurge (maybe).

Before I say anything, know that i'm not betting on my team at all. I'm just saying they have a tiny shot at somewhat surviving them at least.

Mephisto (in his own realm)

Dormammu (in his own realm)

Cytorrak (in his own realm)

Pretty much anyone who is invincible in their own realm. However, that would require the Beyonders entering those realms in the first place. In any case, those fights would be interesting to see.

No. They would all die horribly.

@trionace said:

@hiddenlight: I'm a little skeptical because PR Beyonder made LT look weak

Yes, he did. PR Beyonder made LT "tremble". LT didn't even dare engage him in a confrontation, instead, his fellow cosmics/abstract buddies politely begged him not to remove Death from the multiverse (which he ignored and did so anyways), in which LT acknowledged that he had no power over the events by saying "Thus passeth the old way!".

@trionace said:

Do the Ivory Kings stack up to the Pre Retcon Beyonder? Cause he was omnipotent

PR Beyonder was never omnipotent because his feats contradict omnipotence.

However, I don't think they're as power as PR Beyonder.

Pre-retcon beyonder

that Beyonder was a child... it stated so in the books... these guys are more powerful than he

@frisky4 said:

@zeezee123: Not even close.

hes gotta be trolling... no one is that ignorant

@zeezee123: The only chance they have is killing themselves to save themselves from the embarrassment of being killed by getting flicked

@serrure said:

@pern: thanks for clogging up the thread full of wrong answers

None of my answers were wrong though.

@serrure said:

@comicsrulebutdbzdoes2 said:

Pre-retcon beyonder

that Beyonder was a child... it stated so in the books... these guys are more powerful than he

No

@serrure said:

@frisky4 said:

@zeezee123: Not even close.

hes gotta be trolling... no one is that ignorant

I've seen more ignorant. Probably.

@pern said:

@serrure said:

@pern: thanks for clogging up the thread full of wrong answers

None of my answers were wrong though.

really sio all your characters are HoTU Thanos lvl or break the limitations then? OR they are wrong

btw there is this "New" Thing called spoiler blocks watch as i use them

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and this way i dont seem like a total idiot who just posts pictures without any explanation at all...

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@serrure said:

@comicsrulebutdbzdoes2 said:

Pre-retcon beyonder

that Beyonder was a child... it stated so in the books... these guys are more powerful than he

No

ahh a solid argument... im gonna go look for someone with a more expansive vocabulary then