Who can beat Superman Cosmic armor?

Cosmic Armor was AT LEAST massively multiversal up to possibly hyperversal. In other words hyperversal+ up to outerversal characters can beat it. Simple. Couple of examples being:

from DC

- the Presence

- the Source

- Michael / Lucifer

from Marvel:

- Beyonder

- TOAA

- Fulcrum

Batman with a Cosmic Kryptonite Gas Grenade

Zeno.

CW Green Arrow, DCEU Wonder Woman, CW Deathstroke, DCEU DD. Want me to continue?

I could

IW Thor with his Multiversal durability and high Multiversal striking power.

Pretty sure the Six Fold God and all 3 of The Chousin could beat CAS they are all way above multiverse level and The Chousin are way bigger than CAS

Othinus.

(Listing these in order from stomping him to barely winning)

1. Batman with prep.

2. HOTU Thanos.

3. Mr. Mykziplit(the imp from DC)

4. Zarathos.

5. God Emperor Doom.

6. Pre-Retcon Beyonder.

7. Trion Juggernaught.

8. God Spawn.

Othinus? Chousin? Those characters are hardly even above Baseline Multiversal by status, statements or feats. The only thing Chousin got going for them is iffy dimensional tiering and vague outerverse tiering.

DC's Cosmology, everything that the Monitor Sphere sits on top is so massive and complex.

Compositing DC's Cosmology thanks to Hypertime.... Every Universe in DC potentially has infinite realms in it. And those Universes multiply into infinity by Metaverse/Hypertime within Bleed Space every instant in a potential infinite chain sets of multiverses to multiverses. All that is dwarfed by the God Sphere which has Heaven and Hell as individual Multiverses, dwarfed by Limbo seeing all that as a fictional book, dwarfed by the Monitor Sphere where the Monitors list everything below as infinitesimal germ worlds.

You're better off putting Othinus and the Chousin against a 5D Imp.

Outerversal non sense is inapplicable in fiction. It just means "My character with weak multiversal feats wins against yours cuz muh concepts"

Calling CAS Supes Hyperversal is an understatement to the point we need to add new words to examine his tier.

Send these dudes back to Facebook and VS battle wiki with this outerversal crap

Damn right.

We don't need the Outerversal concept, we have OMNIVERSAL for that shit. Outerversal just means if you transcend the concept of dimensions, you're already god tier without a lot of Multiversal feats, even if you don't have infinite dimensional destroying feats, compared to many other characters and you win therefore. It's so stupid. Lol

@sungsam: Yeah, they keep making up terms, it's ridiculous.

The Chousin are above multiverse level they have created multiple multiverses and are bigger than a multiverse.

That's not even remotely enough, create infinite megaverses or even infinite x infinite megaverses, or infinite x infinite x infinite x infinite megaverses and so on, that's not remotely enough to even come close to Cas Supe's tier.

These wank above tho

@hermankeson: tf? You ask who would beat him, but then you say no to any character. PR Beyonder Stomps Thought Robot. Litreally the beyonder is the third most powerful bring in Marvel, after toaa and protege. He was stated to be millions of times stronger then all the power in the multiverse combined. Including beings like the living tribunal, eternity, infinity, misstres death, the phoenix force and many more. You are obviously just a Superman fanboys.

Elaine, The Endless, Lucifer, Michael, GEB, Pralaya, Beyonder, Living Tribunal, Scathan, Protege, Eternity/Infinity/Oblivion/Death, Molecule Man, Thanos w/ HOTU, Beyonders, Fulcrum, MJJ, WF Mxy, HOM Wanda w/ Chaos Wave etc

Solo king Yhwank

Probaby Reinhard Heydrich

PR MM

Featherine,The Creator,Elaine Belloc (she's at one level with The Presence),all gods above Heydrichs level in Dies Irea. Yeah,and all characters at the stage of Infinite & Endless like The Writer or Monitor-Mind of the Overvoid.xD

Just to list a few more.

Timmy turner

Batman with prep

Mcu iron man with mark 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 suit

Doomsday with infinite healing and invulnerability

Meliodas

Kaguya

Naruto

Sasuke

CW supergirl with one million ton lifting feat and massively faster than teleportation speeds.

Ywach

Solo king itachi

One punch man

Uncle grandpa

Dora the explorer

Johnny test with infinite Omniversal level inventions

Power puff girls

And last but not least, the shockwaves from the fight between Peter griffin and the chicken turns marvel and dc into dust.

Apparently he's above fiction, so no one can beat him.

Me just give the comic I will beat him

@ovy7: Any explicitely metanarrative entity should be able to at least compete, then. Case in point, SCP-2747 (a being that destroys the narratives that contain it, and then the narratives that contained those narratives, and so on) or SCP-3812 (a being that trascends the layer of narrative it is in indefinitely, trascending both his own author and the author of the narrative that contained his author).

Aunt May with her handbag.

Not many in fiction can beat him (I can hardly think of any).

Featherine Augustus Aurora (Stomps)

Pre-recton Beyonder (Stomps)

Game Master Amped Ushiromiya Battler (Stomps)

The Presence (Stomps)

Michael Demiurgos (Wins high-difficulty)

ELDer GaD deMONbaNE (no)

Thor's offence is truly multiversal. But Thor's durability is capped at full force of a star, makes sense?

A bunch of characters from Umineko, Dies Irae, Toaru (maybe), Kami Techi, etc.

Umineko? Probably. Most likely.

Dies Irae? Hell No.

Toaru? Hell No.

Kami Tenchi? No.

How to beat Cosmic Armor Superman: Lesson 1

- Leave your Fiction entirely. Exit the comic or manga itself in a literal sense.

- Defeat a Presence level being.

- Have no reality or physics at all for a reality warper to mess with.

- Have no bounds by time or a weakness to it being introduced to the battlefield.

- Have our actual real world as a universe in the story that is meta.

- Have total Omniscience by way of reading a book containing all other books.

- Ignore the author of the fiction.

- Talk about future works and publications the author of the fiction hasn't written yet, and at the time had not been released yet. IE: ripping out unpublished works from the author of the series and citing them by name.

- Contain Creation and multiple other multiverses.

- Ignore the ultimate God concept possible and say nope to it trying to delete you from memory.

- Be immune to author retcon and talk about other continuities in your story that were removed and shifted by authors.

- Come to comic vine and argue dimensions and reality warping vs things without reality to warp and somehow lose the majority vote lol

Do all of that, and you are now on par with CAS. Miss even one of these, and you lose.

Umineko? hell no.

Umineko is like a fiction inside another fiction. It's ikuko hachijo recolting testament inside bottles, which most of them were declared to be forgeries made by Sayo Yasuda (A.K.A Canon A.K.A Shannon A.K.A Claire A.K.A Beatrice). She is the one who spread the story about the witch Beatrice

And C.A.S is a fictional character.

Fiction> Fiction's fiction

(meta-commentary is not a feat)

@wassely: Fiction> Fiction's fiction

This makes 0 sense considering you are arguing things that aren't real regardless

A lot of meta non sense here

The same way gwenpool can beat any comic character because she is a "real person", she can interact with comics, tear pages...Etc a fictional character can beat a fiction's fictional character the same way.

None of what happened in umineko is real. It's in their minds.

@sungsam:

Lmao

Any decent multiversal level character.

@wassely: Interesting point of view, that should mean Stuntman Mike from Death Proof would stomp The Bride From Kill Bill. Since, Quentin Tarantino movies are a movie universe where it have another movie universe within it.

@wassely: a fictional character can beat a fiction's fictional character the same way.

That's like me saying nobody can raise or use showings by Neo from the Matrix. On the off chance that they all have substantial showings, it makes no sense to attempt and reject it from some theoretical situation

People aren't arguing Ikuko, they're using her self-insert Featherine.

None of what happened in umineko is real

People are utilizing the identical substantial magic adaptations of the characters here. So there's legitimately no point in what you're saying

@wassely: Why do you keep trying to explain like nobody gets it? I've read Umineko plenty, you didn't even post anything refuting the point I made addressing your arguments. You just keep describing the story and its layers of fiction and the connection to the meta.

Damn near everything you just wrote is irrelevant to my explanation.

Your main point (What you're ultimately arguing) makes literally 0 sense for a hypothetical versus.

So little to go off....

Any body who can hit with the force of a billion suns.

@kilgpmktra: @ovy7 Here's what I got from this thread.

The fiction that is above the other fiction's fiction. Below the fiction's fiction and my fiction is less fictional than the other guys fiction. Your fiction is fictional to my fiction and Featherine is fiction to fiction and more fictional than my fiction. Monitors are fictional and are above the power of authors because the authors because authors said so that fictional characters can leave fiction and are above fiction fiction and fiction.

OH MY GOD THIS THREAD IS DRIVING ME FUCKING INSANE.