Who can beat Lucifer Morningstar outright?

What character can beat lucifer morningstar outright.

Every thread i've seen has been Thanos with HoTu or Gauntlet and most say Lucifer still wins which I agree with but who can OUTRIGHT beat Lucifer.

pre ret con beyonder

pre ret MM

ivory kings

Anyone Living Tribunal level or above with enough will to overcome Lucifer's own will.

Outright as in for sure?

• TOAA
• Presence
• Synnar
• Primal Monitor
• Grant Morrison
• WF Mxy
• Mike D.

The guy who could make God bleed.

PR Beyonder, Truth, Bruce all mighty, MOM, Eru Ilúvatar, , God (Judeo-Christianity), Amazo (Maybe), Gan, Akasha, Ajimu Najimi, Ashura (Rave Master), Shiki Ryougi's third personality, Drosselmeyer, The Time Devourer, Death (Supernatural), Einstein (Farscape) (Some of these our close/very close apologies and not outright but then you would be left with Omnipotent char's..)

@beware_my_power: Little bit of a contradiction since TLT is lower then Thanos with hotu.

Pre Retcon Beyonder

WF Mxy

HOTU Thanos

The Brothers

Living Tribunal

The Doctor :p

@bluejay4: "Every thread i've seen has been Thanos with HoTu or Gauntlet and most say Lucifer still wins which I agree with but who can OUTRIGHT beat Lucifer."

Anybody above living tribunal and has power of creation can beat him

his dad

Squirrel girl, Batman with 1 year prep maybe

Naruto

Classic source is more powerful than Lucifer but the problem is Lucifer at his full potential tanks Multiuniversal blasts like nothing . So it's impossible to tell that someone can beat him

Anyone omnipotent, say.. toaa, azathoth, kami tenchi etc.

If talking nigh-omnipotents who are more impressive than he is, Nyarlthotep, demonbane.

TOAA

HOTU Thanos

Cain Velasquez

Beyonder

The Presence

Omega Red

The Living Tribunal

Mike Ehrmantraut

Heinsenberg

Hulk Smashes Lucifer !

No one. He's too strong and as smart as the best preppers.

outright? no one.

Batgod

Pre Ret Beyonder

Since it's not "Kill" and just Beat...would totally turn him into a Magical girl.

Best crossover ever. 10/10 would read/watch.

@kingofkings1: I'm not too sure about that, considering Lucifer was capable of flying past and ignoring the source wall as if it wasn't there.

To those saying Michael Demiurgos could, that's incorrect. We've seen lucifer survive the full brunt of Michaels power twice.

Lol@living tribunal beating lucifer.

Living tribunal got killed by ivory kings who got killed by a multiversal level attack

lucifer on the other hand tanked a creation buster with no scratch.

Apart from omnipotents, there are few who could actually stand a chance.

@poseidondawg: God?

Batman with prep or donald trump with scandal.

@andriperdhian93:

Not funny.

Anybody with CHIM

@gamingod: False. Ivory Kings were killed by Owen Reece who is Omniversal level threat. Add to the fact that Hickman, the writer of the story stated he needed aplot device to defeat the Ivory Kings because they are, well... Omnipotent.

Multiversal? Are you aware that Eternity is Multiversal? He created the Multiverse twice and he is nothing, and I mean nothing that a fodder compare to the Infinity Gauntlet that is below Living Tribunal. That is how powerful the Living Tribunal is, he is above an item that makes Multiversal beings look like fodders and being killed by Ivory Kings is nothing bad. They are Omnipotent as well adn killed via plot device.

Stop coming down bumping threads that are a year old saying stupid shit you have no idea about. Everything you do is overhype DC while extremely lowballing Marvel via your bias and ignorance.

According to some other then me Wally west or batman

@krleavenger: they're all omnipotent? I thought TOAA was the only omnipotent in marvel?

@superman19: Only 3 Ivory Kings are. The rest if the Beyonders use Tech and their best feats are creating Real COSMIC Cubes which are Nigh Multiversal to Multiversal in power. That means that if other Beyonders use Tech, They are around above Eternity but lower than the Infinity Gauntlet.

Ivory Kings however are Omnipotent.

@krleavenger: soo...TOAA isn't the most powerful being in marvel and could get beat by someone like Owen reece?

@superman19: Not really. When Owen killed the Beyonders They Were nerfed as hell because for some reason They could not time travel.

Even tho their creations (cosmic cubes) have time manipulation abilities and They Were fighting against the LT in all if space and TIME at the same time.

HOTU Thanos,Composite Molecule Man and PR Beyonder.(not including omnipotents)

@krleavenger

stop posting stupid bullcrap, you argue like a noob who has never opened a comic book in a day.

Ivory kings are not omnipotent because omnipotent beings cant be defeated. That's a simple logic even toddlers would know.

Ivory kings got killed by a multiversal attack and that's it, where was it written as an omniversal attack? You keep typing bullcrap outta your ass.

Dream of the endless is a multiversal being whose fraction of power can create billions of universes. A FRACTION.. And he's nothing compared to death of the endless, who can kill multiversal beings with a ''TOUCH'' and death is nowhere near lucifers level.

So lucifer dwarfs a being who can kill other multiversal beings with a touch. See, i can play that logic too.

Oh and living tribunal got blasted to death by an attack that didnt even destroy the multiverse. Lucifer on the other hand tanked a creation buster. So wtf is living tribunal gonna do to him?

Lt has shown nowhere near the power to destroy all of creation, and even if he could, lucifer can casually tank it, so now what? Lucifer godstomps tribunal to oblivion.

Its just quite unfortunate that people here know more about marvel cosmics than dc, unlike me whose got 100% knowledge on both verse.

There are several characters on dc who would wipe the floor with tribunal and lucifer is one of them

everybody in suggverse

The supposed "creation buster" was a controlled detonated explosion that created a single universe.

The Living Tribunal took on the Beyonders, more powerful than either LT or any of the brothers.

Lol @ you going around in threads and spamming the same nonsense over and over again.

@gamingod: Whuch us why it is Called a plot device LMAO.

Akasha

@jwwprod said:

Still this.

Demi Fiend True Demon.
Lord English
Bill Cipher
Mercurius
Elden God Demonbane
Hajun
Yog-Sothoth
Mem Aleph
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@nortonek:

Why Bill Cipher?