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#1 Posted by Darkseidis (68 posts) - - Show Bio

Any gods or entities from dc that can beat LT

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#2 Edited by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3947 posts) - - Show Bio

Pretty much anyone save for unbound Spectre.

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#3 Posted by whydama (1126 posts) - - Show Bio

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

Pretty much anyone save for unbound Spectre.

Wait, he said who can beat?

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#4 Posted by Nefarious (34044 posts) - - Show Bio

The Presence.

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#5 Posted by Baldy (4960 posts) - - Show Bio

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

Pretty much anyone save for unbound Spectre.

Unbound Spectre would get slaughter-stomped. It's his weakest form.

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#6 Posted by Immortal777 (9602 posts) - - Show Bio

Lucifer or Michael

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#7 Edited by Killemall (18937 posts) - - Show Bio

Well Catwoman would stomp LT on Looks.

Batman would stomp LT on style.

Plastic Man would stomp LT at being funny.

And petty much every one from DC beat LT on "whoever has the neck wins" contest.

Is that what you were asking, or do they have to beat him in a fair combat?

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#8 Posted by justleader (1741 posts) - - Show Bio

Actually no one can win against LT in terms of feats, since LT is shown to have megaversal feats (holding 2 megaverses and he exists in all multiverses simultaneously), even the presence doesn't have megaversal feats, so by feats no one can match LT

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#9 Edited by XImpossibruX (5747 posts) - - Show Bio

The Presence, he is DC's TOAA.

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#10 Posted by jeanroygrant (20442 posts) - - Show Bio

@XImpossibruX said:

The Presence, he is DC's TOAA.

No.

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#11 Posted by deactivated-1358091 (2516 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant:Please not that ''Overmonitor'' thing...

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#12 Posted by jeanroygrant (20442 posts) - - Show Bio

@SithLantern93said:

@jeanroygrant:Please not that ''Overmonitor'' thing...

Why not?

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#13 Posted by XImpossibruX (5747 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant said:

@XImpossibruX said:

The Presence, he is DC's TOAA.

No.

Really? The Presence is the representation of the writer, like TOAA.

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#14 Posted by jeanroygrant (20442 posts) - - Show Bio

@XImpossibruX said:

@jeanroygrant said:

@XImpossibruX said:

The Presence, he is DC's TOAA.

No.

Really? The Presence is the representation of the writer, like TOAA.

I don't know about that.

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#15 Posted by eisjfiejss (560 posts) - - Show Bio

The Presence is the supreme being of dc, not the overmonitor.

As for the battle, only the Presence is guaranteed to be able to defeat LT. Others who might have a chance include Michael and Lucifer, Great Evil Beast, etc.

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#16 Posted by catofellow (380 posts) - - Show Bio

Booster Gold.

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#17 Posted by XiiX (13584 posts) - - Show Bio

@eisjfiejss said:

The Presence is the supreme being of dc, not the overmonitor.

As for the battle, only the Presence is guaranteed to be able to defeat LT. Others who might have a chance include Michael and Lucifer, Great Evil Beast, etc.

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#18 Posted by a88378438 (3527 posts) - - Show Bio

Elaine Belloc kiss LT to die

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#19 Posted by ShootingNova (25432 posts) - - Show Bio

@justleader said:

Actually no one can win against LT in terms of feats, since LT is shown to have megaversal feats (holding 2 megaverses and he exists in all multiverses simultaneously), even the presence doesn't have megaversal feats, so by feats no one can match LT

This is false. He only held the embodiments of two megaverses, not two megaverses themselves.

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#20 Posted by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3947 posts) - - Show Bio
@whydama said:

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

Pretty much anyone save for unbound Spectre.

Wait, he said who can beat?

LOL I totally read the title wrong!!! >__<

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#21 Edited by icysloth (1329 posts) - - Show Bio

The presence

MYX

Batmite

Michael

Lucifer

Great Evil Beast

Saint of Killers (if you consider vertigo part of DC)

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#22 Posted by a88378438 (3527 posts) - - Show Bio

Mask?????what????? Elaine Belloc = presence

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#23 Posted by eisjfiejss (560 posts) - - Show Bio

@ShootingNova said:

@justleader said:

Actually no one can win against LT in terms of feats, since LT is shown to have megaversal feats (holding 2 megaverses and he exists in all multiverses simultaneously), even the presence doesn't have megaversal feats, so by feats no one can match LT

This is false. He only held the embodiments of two megaverses, not two megaverses themselves.

Agreed. In addition, just because the presence has not manipulated megaverses before does not mean he cannot.

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#24 Posted by justleader (1741 posts) - - Show Bio

@ShootingNova said:

@justleader said:

Actually no one can win against LT in terms of feats, since LT is shown to have megaversal feats (holding 2 megaverses and he exists in all multiverses simultaneously), even the presence doesn't have megaversal feats, so by feats no one can match LT

This is false. He only held the embodiments of two megaverses, not two megaverses themselves.

Nope, he held two megaverses that's why there was a crossover in the first place, and he helped fashion them:

and he exists in all multiverses simultaneously:

So LT is definitely megaversal at least possibly more (holding two megaverses)

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#25 Posted by justleader (1741 posts) - - Show Bio

@eisjfiejss said:

@ShootingNova said:

@justleader said:

Actually no one can win against LT in terms of feats, since LT is shown to have megaversal feats (holding 2 megaverses and he exists in all multiverses simultaneously), even the presence doesn't have megaversal feats, so by feats no one can match LT

This is false. He only held the embodiments of two megaverses, not two megaverses themselves.

Agreed. In addition, just because the presence has not manipulated megaverses before does not mean he cannot.

Yes but no one in the whole DC universe has shown megaversal feats, only multiversal at best, but non showed anything megaversal

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#26 Posted by TheGirugamesh (468 posts) - - Show Bio

@icysloth said:

The presence

MYX

Batmite

Michael

Lucifer

Great Evil Beast

Saint of Killers (if you consider vertigo part of DC)

Myxz and Bat-mite would be like flies to the LT.

The Presence is the only one who could defeat the LT in a 1v1. Michael and Lucifer together maybe, but certainly not individually.

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#27 Posted by fondofpacman (584 posts) - - Show Bio

LT is essentially God in Marvel continuity, the ceiling in the Marvel power-hierarchy that can never be reached...the only exceptions to this are, of course, those story arcs where the writer of the comic decide to draw attention to the only other higher power in the company, themselves. The Heart of the Universe and TOAA crap is nothing more than the writers messing with the established hierarchy of their comic's cannon, but when they're not doing that, no one beats LT.

So the only one in DC who could beat LT would be a DC version of TOAA, and if there was an established character in DC who was always #2 behind the DC TOAA, then he/she could potentially match the LT...that's it, there's really no more explanation or discussion necessary.

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#28 Posted by Killemall (18937 posts) - - Show Bio

@justleader said:

@ShootingNova said:

@justleader said:

Actually no one can win against LT in terms of feats, since LT is shown to have megaversal feats (holding 2 megaverses and he exists in all multiverses simultaneously), even the presence doesn't have megaversal feats, so by feats no one can match LT

This is false. He only held the embodiments of two megaverses, not two megaverses themselves.

Nope, he held two megaverses that's why there was a crossover in the first place, and he helped fashion them:

and he exists in all multiverses simultaneously:

So LT is definitely megaversal at least possibly more (holding two megaverses)

Nothing on the scan actually states what you are saying. Also Marvel vs Dc, might have been cannon to Dc universe, marvel doesnt consider it cannon. The best i have seen LT do (not a comics i have read but scan posted by CitizenBane) was being able to hold 2 eternity in the palm of each hand.

Also i dont actually remember anywhere saying LT held the two brothers together, if you could take me which issue it says so (coz i think it has a total of 2 issues doesnt it? ) i can go back and check it out.

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#29 Posted by justleader (1741 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall:

Actually if you look in the scan you could see they say the living tribunal exists in all multiverses simultaneously making him megaversal (since he can affect more than one multiverse)

here is the scan:

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#30 Posted by AssertingValor (7838 posts) - - Show Bio

beeen done!!! use the search function new people!

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#31 Posted by TheAmazingImmortalMan (4628 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

Well Catwoman would stomp LT on Looks.

Batman would stomp LT on style.

Plastic Man would stomp LT at being funny.

And petty much every one from DC beat LT on "whoever has the neck wins" contest.

Is that what you were asking, or do they have to beat him in a fair combat?

lol

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#32 Edited by AssertingValor (7838 posts) - - Show Bio

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles/7/the-living-tribunal-vs-dc/18376/

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#33 Posted by blackadamFTW (7882 posts) - - Show Bio

The Presence, Mxy at his strongest (that's right, I said it), and probably Max Faraday.

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#34 Posted by eisjfiejss (560 posts) - - Show Bio

@justleader said:

@eisjfiejss said:

@ShootingNova said:

@justleader said:

Actually no one can win against LT in terms of feats, since LT is shown to have megaversal feats (holding 2 megaverses and he exists in all multiverses simultaneously), even the presence doesn't have megaversal feats, so by feats no one can match LT

This is false. He only held the embodiments of two megaverses, not two megaverses themselves.

Agreed. In addition, just because the presence has not manipulated megaverses before does not mean he cannot.

Yes but no one in the whole DC universe has shown megaversal feats, only multiversal at best, but non showed anything megaversal

As far as I know DC does not have a megaverse, so there is no chance for any character to show megaversal feats. Nontheless that is not to say they are incapable. If they crossed over into Marvel somehow I sure the Presence can easily manipulate a megaverse.

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#35 Posted by deactivated-1358091 (2516 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackadamFTW said:

The Presence, Mxy at his strongest (that's right, I said it), and probably Max Faraday.

World's Funniest Mxy right?

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#36 Posted by whydama (1126 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

Well Catwoman would stomp LT on Looks.

Batman would stomp LT on style.

Plastic Man would stomp LT at being funny.

And petty much every one from DC beat LT on "whoever has the neck wins" contest.

Is that what you were asking, or do they have to beat him in a fair combat?

This.

And the Presence beats him. Michael and Lucifer should also stand a chance if they work together

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#37 Posted by blackadamFTW (7882 posts) - - Show Bio

@SithLantern93 said:

@blackadamFTW said:

The Presence, Mxy at his strongest (that's right, I said it), and probably Max Faraday.

World's Funniest Mxy right?

Yep. He was multiversal there, and he was multiversal on another occasion, too.

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#38 Posted by deactivated-1358091 (2516 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackadamFTW said:

@SithLantern93 said:

@blackadamFTW said:

The Presence, Mxy at his strongest (that's right, I said it), and probably Max Faraday.

World's Funniest Mxy right?

Yep. He was multiversal there, and he was multiversal on another occasion, too.

I don't remeber that. Which story arc was it?

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#39 Posted by blackadamFTW (7882 posts) - - Show Bio

@SithLantern93: Too be honest, I don't remember.

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#40 Posted by deactivated-1358091 (2516 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackadamFTW said:

@SithLantern93: Too be honest, I don't remember.

Crap.

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#41 Posted by blackadamFTW (7882 posts) - - Show Bio

@SithLantern93 said:

@blackadamFTW said:

@SithLantern93: Too be honest, I don't remember.

Crap.

Found it (don't know where it's from):

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#42 Posted by deactivated-1358091 (2516 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackadamFTW said:

@SithLantern93 said:

@blackadamFTW said:

@SithLantern93: Too be honest, I don't remember.

Crap.

Found it (don't know where it's from):

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I believe it is from Supergirl 8th Grade Adventure or some crap like that.

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#43 Posted by blackadamFTW (7882 posts) - - Show Bio

@SithLantern93: Something like that.

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#44 Posted by a88378438 (3527 posts) - - Show Bio

holding two megaverses yes,LT was megaverses level,and beyonder was omniverse level

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#45 Posted by ShootingNova (25432 posts) - - Show Bio

@justleader: How many times do I have to tell you. The scale for multiversal to universal is 2 - infinity. The scale for megaversal to multiversal is more than 2 - infinity.

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#46 Posted by ShootingNova (25432 posts) - - Show Bio

@justleader: Nothing you've given says that he held two megaverses.

@justleader said:

It says there, clearly, "guardian of a different Megaverse", not "a megaverse".

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#47 Posted by Killemall (18937 posts) - - Show Bio

@ShootingNova said:

@justleader: How many times do I have to tell you. The scale for multiversal to universal is 2 - infinity. The scale for megaversal to multiversal is more than 2 - infinity.

multiverse and megaverse apparently means the same thing according to marvel bio.

@blackadamFTW said:

@SithLantern93 said:

@blackadamFTW said:

@SithLantern93: Too be honest, I don't remember.

Crap.

Found it (don't know where it's from):

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Thats from Supergirl 8th Grade Adventure, issue 4, page 16. Note, its non-cannon to Dc continuity, as every children books are.

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#48 Posted by ShootingNova (25432 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall: I'm not using Marvel's whacky definitions, I'm using the actual definitions.

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#49 Posted by Killemall (18937 posts) - - Show Bio

@ShootingNova said:

@Killemall: I'm not using Marvel's whacky definitions, I'm using the actual definitions.

But when you say megaverse, i am assuming you are talking about marvel megaverse rather than a random megaverse, because thats what the Living Tribunal is bound to. And given the fact that DC no longer has a megaverse, the only company that does is marvel, and well there definition as you put it is "whacky" .

Also what do you mean by an actual defination of a megaverse? The only scientific theory that even talks about megaverse, from what i know of, is string theory (or most specifically the M-theory), which simply is a collection of various universe.

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#50 Edited by ShootingNova (25432 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall: A megaverse as in multiple multiverses (a hypothetical cosmos of multiple universes).