Who can beat Cassandra Cain in pure H2H combat?

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Which comic street levelers could defeat Cassandra Cain for a solid majority in a strictly H2H battle?

Characters cannot surpass people like Deathstroke or Captain America physicals wise; trying to make this a fight where the combatants have to either outskill Cass or have just enough of a physical advantage coupled with on par H2H skills to give them the win.

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Luke Cage.

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#3  Edited By juiceboks  Moderator

Taskmaster if he goes all out has a decent shot.

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lets see,, daredevil would be the lowest that could beat her... Mister X, Iron Fist, Black Panther, Wolverine, Bruce Wayne(using gadgets so he may be disqualified), Shiva(right circumstances as they are close to even with cass holding a slight edge) Prince of Orphans,Mantis, Moondragon,Maybe psylocke if tp is allowed but she still may be to slow...Slade can beat her with right armor on. O-sensei can beat her...

The ones in bold can beat her for a majority,, the other ones are debatable and there are a few more that I am not thinking of.

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Taskmaster if he goes all out has a decent shot.

Tony's to arrogant to beat cass in my opinion... What about echo?? i mean she technically could copy eveyone too but she lacks the feats to really say she could contend so that might be moot...

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#6 juiceboks  Moderator

Luke Cage.

He can't and goes against the OP's rules regardless.

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@newecho said:
@juiceboks said:

Taskmaster if he goes all out has a decent shot.

Tony's to arrogant to beat cass in my opinion... What about echo?? i mean she technically could copy eveyone too but she lacks the feats to really say she could contend so that might be moot...

I did say if he goes all out, implying that he's taking her seriously.

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Iron Fist. Karate Kid

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@trionace said:

Iron Fist. Karate Kid

kk is much to high a tier to be mentioned but yeah val beats her..

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Karate Kid, Luther Strode.

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#11  Edited By Avatar_of_Green

Karate Kid. (Is he stronger than Cap? I don't think so, but maybe?)

Karnak.

Midnighter.

Daredevil.

Etc.,

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@juiceboks: I know, I was trying to be funny. But being serious, mmmmmm...... Maybe, and only maybe, Cheshire.

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non jobbing Ra's Al Ghul :)

Vandal Savage :)

Red Hood :)

Damian Wayne :)

Black Panther :)

Master Splinter :)

Shredder :)

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Just about every street level

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@acrokat said:

Me.

"13 seconds ago"

you beat me by that much

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@oocmikey said:

non jobbing Ra's Al Ghul :)

Vandal Savage :)

Red Hood :)

Damian Wayne :)

Black Panther :)

Master Splinter :)

Shredder :)

Huh on the bolded? I can see arguments for you other three but these?? I am also pretty sure shredder and splinter are above cap?

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Master Splinter would

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@newecho: I don't think Cain stomps any of them. I'm sure gauging feats that it would prove interesting that those fights can go either way.

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Iron Fist

Daredevil

Batman (maybe)

Shrek

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#24  Edited By Enemybird

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@oocmikey: hmm I would love to hear your arguments for those four

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Lee with Drunken Fist active...and stats equal.

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-Iron Fist

-Daredevil

-Taskmaster

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#31  Edited By Bat_Girl_CC

In truth, nobody...unless they are vastly superhuman...peak-humans and low level metas, get fodderized 1-on-1 if Cass is serious... it has actually been stated that in every fight Cass has to put in alot of effort to hold-back to a ridiculous level, just so that she does not kill her opponents...because for every strike/hit attempt, she has like 100 ways that they could be lethal...

Even if we count only post-flashpoint Cassandra Cain, (her current version, or new cass), even then she's still O.P.

- Post-Flashpoint Cass vs Dick Grayon:

(the images below are in order, from the last to the first, and from right to left):

- Post-Flashpoint Cass vs Clayface:

(the images below are in order, from the last to the first, and from right to left):

- Post-Flashpoint Cass vs Robin (Damian Wayne):

So, unlike Cass who got nerfed from one continuity to another, specially in speed and in stricking-power, Damian got upgraded specially in skill, and still hes no match for Cass even now.

(the images below are in order, from right to left):

But to answer the question, assuming that Cass is "in-character", which means holding-back not to kill...i guess that Constantine Drakon could, maybe...or her half-brother the Mad Dog who actually even killed her at one point...and since it has been confirmed that Lady Shiva has faked some of her losses against the DC heros in the past, so, maybe her as well...although, even if she lost on purpose, theres no way that she can move as fast as Cass (if we use feats from all continuities).

*Edit*

While i was uploading the images i missed some parts of Cass vs Damian, here's the full segment, from right to left:

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Taskmaster, Iron Fist, Wolverine come to mind.

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#34  Edited By DeltaAlphaGulf

Not necessarily all of them can but a list of those with potential.

Richard Dragon

Lady Shiva

Batman

Bronze Tiger

Constantine Drakon

Connor Hawke

Ra’s Al Ghul

David Cain

Ozymandias

Karate Kid

Black Canary

Prometheus w/helmet

Deathstroke

Sensei

O-sensei

I-ching

Archer Braun

Silver Monkey

Natas

Stick

Daredevil

Dark devil

Black Panther

Shang Chi

Taskmaster

Master Izo

Spidermans (more so with his Way of the Spider style Shang Chi helped him develop)

Elektra

Iron Fist

Karnak

Ikari

Psylocke

Mantis

Black Widow

Gamora

Steel Serpent

Mystique

White Tiger

Wolverine (probably more capable on the martial arts side if you get rid of 105 lbs of adamantium weighing him down as well as when he had the powers of Iron Fist)

Prodigy

Echo (like taskmaster)

Mister X

Daken

Captain America

Sage

X-23

Iron Fist

Brass

Midnights Fire

Kraven

Deadpool

Ty Lee

Amon

Some Sharingan and Byakugan users.

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Richard Dragon comes to mind.

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Black Panther, Cap, Deathstroke, Taskmaster, Wolverine & Iron Fist would beat her.

Daredevil & Elektra have a slight chance as well

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Wolverine crosses my head, and maybe Deadpool/?

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Black Panther, Cap, Deathstroke, Taskmaster, Wolverine & Iron Fist would beat her.

Daredevil & Elektra have a slight chance as well

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Slade has already beaten her.

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Sensei

Taskmaster

Batman

Richard Dragon

That's all for now.

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Slade has already beaten her.

And Cassie stomped him twice in Nightwing Vol. 2 #81 and Batgirl Vol. 2 #4. Not that I see her beating him for a solid majority. But she's much more skilled.

OT: Batman, maybe Deathstroke, Prometheus (with helmet), fake Prometheus (with helmet), Richard Dragon, Taskmaster, Iron Fist, the Sensei, Karate Kid, Artemis, probably more could all beat her.

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And LOL at Cap, Elektra and Daredevil beating Cassandra for a majority.

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  • Captain America
  • Deathstroke
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And LOL at Cap, Elektra and Daredevil beating Cassandra for a majority.

why do you think Cap can't beat her for the majority?

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@lanternbatman said:

And LOL at Cap, Elektra and Daredevil beating Cassandra for a majority.

why do you think Cap can't beat her for the majority?

She's too fast, too skilled, can withstand his hits, and take him out with nerve strikes.

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@lanternbatman:

She's too fast

doubt it

too skilled

she's more skilled yes but its nothing out of Cap's range

can withstand his hits

feats or GTFO

and take him out with nerve strikes.

which she has used how many times?

Cap's physical edge is rather massive to be quite blunt and she doesn't outclass him in her advantages as much your claiming

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#50  Edited By Vertigo-

Slade can, Mr X can can arguably stomp her, Taskmaster could beat her as well, assuming he doesn't job.