Who can beat Alien X?

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#301  Edited By AnimeFreak1

@etriel: They changed the ART STYLE, PLOT, CONTINUITY, RETCONS, VOICE ACTORS, DIRECTORS, etc...... That's OMNIVERSAL MANIPULATION FEATS RIGHT THERE.

This was confirmed in Universe vs Tennyson if you think I'm lying.

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@animefreak1 said:

@etriel: They changed the ART STYLE, PLOT, CONTINUITY, RETCONS, VOICE ACTORS, DIRECTORS, etc...... That's OMNIVERSAL MANIPULATION FEATS RIGHT THERE.

This was confirmed in Universe vs Tennyson if you think I'm lying.

Changing art style, continuity, voice actors, plot and retcons is a thing that Gumball with the remote, and composite feats can do given Gumball's meta.

And Elmore contains different animation forms from 3-dimensional CGI, to 2-dimensional toon pixel physics. Something the B10verse does not have.

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@etriel: Well, Ben 10 does have 3D CGI.

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@johnsmjs36 said:

@etriel: Well, Ben 10 does have 3D CGI.

It does? Where then, and when has Alien X changed and manipulated visual forms between 3-D to CGI on panel.

The Remote in Gumball has turned events, even in metaspaces outside Time, that represent Cartoon Network's TV Screen and can change the show's narrative, and the show itself has a literal Cartoon Network Rewriting Book.

I honestly cannot see Alien X winning against Composite Gumball, even in a meta sense.

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@etriel: Destroy all Aliens is in CGI.

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@etriel: Destroy all Aliens is in CGI.

And when has X manipulated these animation forms back to 2D?

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@etriel: He hasn't done it on panel. But if we agree with the statements then Celestialsapien has gone beyond just art style with Live Action thrown in the mix. The liveaction is canon to the cartoon.

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#308  Edited By kell_saloks

@etriel: According to canon at the beginning of every new series, hence the art style change and voice changes.

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@johnsmjs36 said:

@etriel: He hasn't done it on panel. But if we agree with the statements then Celestialsapien has gone beyond just art style with Live Action thrown in the mix. The liveaction is canon to the cartoon.

That episode implied to us, that he has only changed 2-D artforms (not demosntrated how) with no evidence that it included CGI under his mix. There is no evidence that X has transcended forces that change 2-D to CGI to Live Action. He has changed 2-D to other 2-D, and that's it.

Changes of animation beyond 2-D are not under the meta conceptual awareness of Ben 10 characters. They can be aware of meta-2-D changes, but not beyond that.

You are extrapolating a feat, to X, that 2-D warping = CGI warping, which isn't even confirmed. The episode showed us all the forms X can change and it only showed 2-D.

And you are also extrapolating, that every media-change in the show is a result of Alien X, which is an assumption without even scant evidence when we are also told, that all he had done, falls under 2D Toon Change feats.

By this logic, you can say that all reality warpers who come from a verse with Medium change, are Medium Warpers of all sorts despite no evidence to it.

Meanwhile in Elmore, several characters are literal live-action puppets, different art forms in the same dimension simultaneously and are first level canon. Even human puppets, and the Remote warped them on panel, and warps reality at a Television Level beyond even Plot Manipulation (literally can change the language of the show). Meaning the Remote is at a level that warps beyond the Animation Studio itself, right at the Television.

The Remote is of the same affinity as the Cartoon Network Fanfiction Book (they come from the same source) and can change events in the Television No-Signal Void. And Gumball has warped Elmore with his imagination, plotwise, causality wise and temporally all around joke derived hax.

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Anyone above universal or just someone more haxed than him

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Yubel with prep, and Yuma with the Numeron Code.

This

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Alien X is overrated. He isn't even anything close to omnipotent. All he is a universal+ being with medium tier reality warping. He can't even beat goku or superman lol. He nearly lost to the Galactic Gladiator, and had to use physical attacks to win, and his physical attacks were only planetary.

Can't believe people are rallying believing those guys on youtube hyping up on alien x. Any magic user blitz stomps alien x by turning him into a frog and strips him of his power.

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@jacthripper: I don't know when people started to throw the word omnipotent like that but alien x isn't anything close to omnipotent. he isn't even a high tier reality warper.

reality warping =/= omnipotence lol

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From what I've seen of him, any decent multiversal character can beat him.

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didn't ben use alien x to restore an infinite multiverse?

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From what I've seen of him, any decent multiversal character can beat him.

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Alien X has been stated to erase universes with 6 thoughts.

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Alien X has been stated to erase universes with 6 thoughts.

it was six thoughts to destroy a multiverse

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#322  Edited By SeiyaSaiyaJin

Zeedmilleniummon (Sealed or Unsealed)

Protege (With or Without Abstract powers)

Arceus (W/ All plates and at full power)
Bill Cipher (Full power)

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#324  Edited By SeiyaSaiyaJin

Super Archie Sonic (Pre Genesis)

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Isshiki shrinks his reality warping.

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@seiyasaiyajin:

I would definitely agree on Zeed. He was megaversal at full power.

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#329  Edited By SeiyaSaiyaJin

High Multiversal+ at best i'd say. But yeah, he bodies Alien X.

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Omnipotent is a strong word and no one can handle it Exept of a true Omnipotent character like Alien x (NLf ?? Idk what are you talking about)

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Anything that is universal+ can do the job.

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Anybody above universal

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#336  Edited By Badrimoine2019

@professorrespect said:

Anything that is universal+ can do the job.

Yeah anything that is Universal+ would be able to beat a super casual Universal + being who didn't even break a sweat from a Universal+ destruction, sure why not

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@rawsos said:

Anybody above universal

Alien x is already Universal without even trying so I don't see how just begin above Universal would do something (unless you are talking about Multiversal + beings)

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Anything that is universal+ can do the job.

Yeah anything that is Universal + would be able to beat a super casual Universal + being who didn't even break a sweat from a Universal destruction

Yes, because that's his only quantifiable feat. I could say MCU Thanos with the IG is multiversal+ because he did a universal snap while not breaking a sweat, but that's conjecture and purely based around stuff beyond feats.

If you want to quote stuff from harassed guys on Twitter saying otherwise under duress, you are free to do so.

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#340  Edited By Badrimoine2019

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@badrimoine2019 said:
@professorrespect said:

Anything that is universal+ can do the job.

Yeah anything that is Universal + would be able to beat a super casual Universal + being who didn't even break a sweat from a Universal destruction

Yes, because that's his only quantifiable feat. I could say MCU Thanos with the IG is multiversal+ because he did a universal snap while not breaking a sweat, but that's conjecture and purely based around stuff beyond feats.

If you want to quote stuff from harassed guys on Twitter saying otherwise under duress, you are free to do so.

Eh no by Feats Universal+ attacks doesn't do anything to Alien x so a simple Universal character isn't gonna harm unless he is way above baseline (and this ignoring the fact that Alien x scale above the Chronosapien time bomb and the Chrono Navigator, which both are Multiversal weapons)

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@professorrespect said:
@badrimoine2019 said:
@professorrespect said:

Anything that is universal+ can do the job.

Yeah anything that is Universal + would be able to beat a super casual Universal + being who didn't even break a sweat from a Universal destruction

Yes, because that's his only quantifiable feat. I could say MCU Thanos with the IG is multiversal+ because he did a universal snap while not breaking a sweat, but that's conjecture and purely based around stuff beyond feats.

If you want to quote stuff from harassed guys on Twitter saying otherwise under duress, you are free to do so.

Eh no by Feats Universal+ attacks doesn't do anything to Alien x

By what?

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@rawsos said:

Anybody above universal

Alien x is already Universal without even trying so I don't see how just begin above Universal would do something (unless you are talking about Multiversal + beings)

he isnt a god, more like a high reality warper. just the fact that hes a species means he isnt a god. he is also really slow. comic flash is faster than him. he also isnt all knowing, and isnt omnipresent. He would be defeated by a composite jean grey or an infinity stone snap.

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@badrimoine2019 said:

Eh no by Feats Universal+ attacks doesn't do anything to Alien x

By what?

I said By feats, Alien x is Universal+ casually, putting a Universal baseline character won't do anything to him, that's what I'm saying

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@badrimoine2019: What feats showcase him as "Universal+" when all you've presented is a conjecture based argument?

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@rawsos said:
@badrimoine2019 said:
@rawsos said:

Anybody above universal

Alien x is already Universal without even trying so I don't see how just begin above Universal would do something (unless you are talking about Multiversal + beings)

he isnt a god, more like a high reality warper. just the fact that hes a species means he isnt a god. he is also really slow. comic flash is faster than him. he also isnt all knowing, and isnt omnipresent. He would be defeated by a composite jean grey or an infinity stone snap.

This doesn't have anything to do with what I said tho

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@badrimoine2019: What feats showcase him as "Universal+" when all you've presented is a conjecture based argument?

Him surviving a Universal+ destruction without a single harm and recreating it with a wave of his hand?

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@professorrespect said:

@badrimoine2019: What feats showcase him as "Universal+" when all you've presented is a conjecture based argument?

Him surviving a Universal+ destruction without a single harm and recreating it with a wave of his hand

And how is it Universal+?

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#349  Edited By Badrimoine2019

@professorrespect said:
@badrimoine2019 said:
@professorrespect said:

@badrimoine2019: What feats showcase him as "Universal+" when all you've presented is a conjecture based argument?

Him surviving a Universal+ destruction without a single harm and recreating it with a wave of his hand

And how is it Universal+?

Because he survived the destruction of the entire space-time contenum leaving only an empty void ?

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@professorrespect said:
@badrimoine2019 said:
@professorrespect said:

@badrimoine2019: What feats showcase him as "Universal+" when all you've presented is a conjecture based argument?

Him surviving a Universal+ destruction without a single harm and recreating it with a wave of his hand

And how is it Universal+?

Because he survived the destruction of the entire space-time universe leaving only an empty void ?

So a singular universe then? How is that universe+ level lol