Whitebeard vs Ulquiorra

•Healthy Whitebeard

•In Character

•Ulquiorra starts in Base

•Location: Marineford

•Starting distance: 80ft

•Win By Death or K.O

Healthy WB is featless IIRC.

If it's base vs base then Edward should win.

Any form above base for Ulquiorra obviously stomps.

Is this a joke ? WB stomps with a casual quake.

I was thinking this was going to be difficult for White beard since his sickness limits his agility and greatly reduces his stats but a healthy wb would finger flick ulquiorra to oblivion

Wich version of Ulqiorra ?

Healthy Whitebeard coud win against normal form ulqi , but loose against R1 -R2 ,Hogyoku version .

Healthy white beard should stomp

Even old raeleigh was able to react to kizarus light speed transport technique, in the manga kizaru was already moving photons and raeleigh cuts the beam and kizaru is forced to reform where he was standing previously.

At bare minimum this is a relativistic reaction feat probably through the use of haki or just knowledge on kizarus techniques but still above ulqs paygrade by a significant margin.

Old white beard either wins with a quake or gets destroyed from the air.

whitebeard should take this. the only thing ulq has that whitebeard doesn't is flight and long range projectiles.

Ulquiorra wins, WB is featless on this level.

Whitebeard casually one shot

Whitebeard casually sends a quake in Ulqs direction ending him not to mention speedblitz via scaling from a casual Kaidou blitzing a bloodlusted Gear 4 Luffy from a seated position.

If Kaidou who is semi featless and has done nothing but been casual can take him and VL Ichigo on

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/kaidou-vs-vasto-lorde-ichigo-and-ulquiorra-1985012/

then this is a mismatch

Ulq can't do anything here he'll be lucky if he can beat Doflamingo

Inb4 moon level Lanza

Whitebears takes this mid diff.

Whitebeard vs VL Ichigo is a better fight.

Lmao Kaido would get stomped by the Duo.

“WB has quakes”

Cool story bro, Lanza gg.

Ulq would tank the first quake then transform and one shot with Cero Oscars.

lmao at anyone in OP beating R2 Ulq and VL Ichigo.

Read Op again....

He's healthy here and has no Sword wound before the battle

@skysanji: Being Healthy doesn't negate age, not that it matters since we're completely oblivious to what Healthy whitebeard was capable of.

What even is this, further proof that the average mental age on CV is below 10?

A slow old man is going to beat someone who is faster and can fly.

Kaidou and Rayleigh are both old and one can keep up with Kizaru and gets him to retreat the other casually blitzes and oneshots a Bloodlusted GEAR 4 Luffy from a seated position, Whitebeard being Healthy here should scale to them at bare minimum....

This is a mismatch.

Ironic when you can't read the OP rules

@skysanji said:

Are you kidding right now you have to be He was the strongest man in the world and we saw Rayleigh fight Kizaru to a stand still and even had him retreat he while should be stronger than Rayleigh with Lowball

@skysanji said:

For all we know he could have earned that Title when he was much younger and still held onto it without remaining the strongest, you have no proof that says otherwise.

@skysanji said:

@skysanji: Here's the issue with OP top tier debates, they have 0 feats so the only way to use them is by ridiculous scaling and fan wank.

@valorknight: He literally teleported behind Akainu when serious and was overpowering Akainu in cqc. That should be enough. And feats for Ulquiorra to suggest tanking a quake punch to the face?

Also in general people should stop using OP top tiers in battle till they get more feats.

@shirso said:

@valorknight said:

They could give us flashbacks to when Whitebeard was young or old and healthy maybe.

@limitlesssigil:

You mean after Akainu killed ace? Wasn't teleport or insane speed, Akainu just didn't notice him, hell even fodder marines were fast enough to warn Akainu.

He was keeping up with and even overpowering Akainu in cqc. And he should logically scale to the likes of Kaido as well. It's scaling sure, but not much else to do when he has appeared for just 1 arc and a few dozen chapters.

Flying away from it? Ulquiorra doesn't need to have a CQC fight.

Does he start fights by flying away right away? Bu standard rules they start 10-20 m apart I think, and WB's quake punches have insane AoE as well.

@shirso said:

Whitebeard should win. If he tags Ulquiorra it’s over.

@limitlesssigil: No Seismic waves are much faster. They can reach speeds of 8km/s (high hypersonic) in real life and WB's quakes in particular were being felt in far off islands across the Grand Line.

@shirso said:

Questionable since Seismic waves travel along solid object like Rock or Water, we've seen Whitebeards travel through air which is why I assumed they were Shock waves.

@limitlesssigil: Even in loose media they have a speed of 1km/s at least. But WB's quakes were being felt at distant islands across the Grand Line so they were clearly much faster.

@shirso said:

So via feats, the only way WB is hitting Ulquiorra with a Quake is if it's pointblank CQC? I can't really see that happening, if you saw someone that looked like Whitebeard would you want to brawl with him?

@limitlesssigil: ?? His quakes have country wide range bare minimum and they should travel at least hypersonic speeds. Even if you say Ulquiorra tries to fly away and go for energy blasts right at the start (which I don't think is ic for him) a quake punch from 20 metres would definitely disorient him greatly for WB to tag him.

And you are acting as if WB is a statue compared to Ulquiorra. He isn't, he directly scales to Admirals, Kaido and even to some extent to Kizaru.

@shirso said:

@limitlesssigil:

No, they have that size of effect, not range. There is a difference.

?? They were causing tsunamis and shaking islands far away from MF. How does Ulquiorra escape that kind of AoE? I mean the guy tilted tectonic plates just by grabbing the air.

Ulquiorra is much faster than the 1-8km/s you assumed earlier, I don't see how it's unreasonable that Ulquiorra can dodge those given their starting distance of 10-20m?

Is it in character for Ulquiorra to just fly as far away as he can and spam Lanzas, right in the beginning of a fight? Also WB's quakes are likely much faster than irl seeing as how their effects are felt a lot more quickly over large distances. And hypersonic+ flight speed feats for Ulquiorra?

He doesn't scale to any of them in speed especially Kizaru.

He intercepted Kizaru while he was in the middle of executing Yata no. He kept up with and was actually overpowering Akainu in cqc. He should scale to Kaido as well seeing as he was hyped to be the "World's Strongest Man".

@shirso said: