@The Stegman said:
I don't quite understand your logic here, you're saying there's a difference in Susanoo activating before the lightning strike came down and while it was coming down? it's really not, Sasuke activated Kirin, the lightning was coming down, and Itachi activated Susanoo before the lightning reached him, which means yes, it can be activated at lightning speed, almost instantaneously, another example is when Sasuke was fighting A, A was about to power slam him into the ground, yet he activated a partial Susanoo before he made contact, which was less than 2 seconds.
Yes, there is a massive difference. One's impressive and one's not. Activating the Susanoo prior a lightning strike coming down on him means the Kirin has yet to move by the time Susanoo formed. I didn't say before the Kirin reached Itachi. I said that before the Kirin descended on him, Itachi activated the Susanoo. You can be of any reaction speed to perform that feat. The Susanoo activating right when the lightning strike comes down can be considered a lightning-timing.
Whitebeard kept up with Akainu, but Akainu wasn't actually using speed in that fight, he CAN move faster, but while trading blows with Whitebeard, he didn't. Same goes for Aokiji. without actually seeing Whitebeard blitz an opponent with speed, it's simply speculation and ABC logic, Whitebeard fights character A, who is faster than Character B, so Whitebeard must be also faster than character B. Faulty logic.
I was looking at the anime. The fight in the manga was shorter. Still, he was able to move across the battlefield and sneak up on Akainu to quake him without anyone noticing until someone actually saw Whitebeard right behind Akainu. He also tagged Akainu who moved in on him to melt off his head. Quaked one of his magma punches. Also snuck up on Kizaru out of nowhere right before he moved in to intercept Luffy.
ABC logic isn't faulty unless there's a contradiction to it in the series, like Bleach. Powerscaling works unless there's a contradiction. There is no contradiction to the powerscaling here. Also, it's not that he fought character A. It's that he kept up/reacted to Character A.
The point here isn't the fact of how fast Whitebeard can move. It's how fast he can react and quake. He can react to the Admirals, people who can blitz Madara. He can quake their attacks before they can hit him. That's enough speed to quake Madara before he can pull out Perfect Susanoo, or just any other jutsus in general.
His best feat is keeping up with the Raikage, who is much faster than Whitebeard, as said above, the Admirals have nothing to do with this as they didn't use speed in their battle with Whitebeard.
He didn't keep up with the Raikage, he just reacted to him. Which does not put him at lightning-timing speed.
@ghost_rider1 said:
Wrong....madara also have the rinnegan and his susanoo can be activated at a moment's notice. Whitebeard durability is good. But it won't keep his soul from getting ripped out by the human path abiiility. Madara can fight on equal terms with a tailed beast mode naruto. Whitebeard is not nearly fast enough to do anything to madara before he react
Rinnegen means nothing here. Susanoo means nothing here given that there is a 6-meter difference. madara has to use his normal Susanoo, which can be easily broken by a casual quake from Whitebeard, and then Madara dies because of his shitty durability.
Eh... it's more like his endurance is good.
Excuse me. When has Madara shown soulfuck? And why do you think he can even touch Whitebeard without dying immediately with a quake?
When has he kept up with BM Naruto?
Then you don't know Whitebeard's reactions. Furthermore, Whitebeard has Haki to predict Madara's movements.
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