Whitebeard vs Escanor vs Kenpachi

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@shintoki: how fast and strong exactly do you think WB is that you think he’d be able to handle kenpachi?

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Kenpachi would easily win even if it was a 2v1 against him.

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@icky_yucky_ewy said:

@shintoki: how fast and strong exactly do you think WB is that you think he’d be able to handle kenpachi?

He fast enough to react and casually cuts Kizaru in half

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And was casually multi-island with the shockwave of his sword

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#54  Edited By Earendill

Escanor >>>> Zaraki > Whitebeard

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Whitebeard>>Kenpanchi>Escanor

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Escanor slaps them both dead.

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#57  Edited By icky_yucky_ewy

@exauce: is multi-island meant to be impressive?

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@icky_yucky_ewy: i cleary said that was only the shockwave of him casually swinging his sword if you want i can tell you about his country+ level feats

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#59  Edited By Raziel2014

Bankai Kenpachi > Shikai Kenpachi/Escanor > Base Kenpachi > Whitebeard

Whitebeard -> Island level character

Escanor -> Country Level at best

Kenpachi -> Continental.

exauce:hockwave mean nothing, when the tsar bomba was detonated the shockwave circled the planet several times, windows 900km away were broken, even a 10kiloton Nuclear explosion has a shockwave/ of several km, a 10KT nuke has a bigger shockwave then the clash of whitebeard and Oden.

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@exauce: country lvl+ is still not enough for kenpachi bud. Kenny was around that area in the hueco mundo arc while suppressed.

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Escanor Stomps

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@raziel2014 said:

Bankai Kenpachi > Shikai Kenpachi/Escanor > Base Kenpachi > Whitebeard

Whitebeard -> Island level character

Escanor -> Country Level at best

Kenpachi -> Continental.

exauce:hockwave mean nothing, when the tsar bomba was detonated the shockwave circled the planet several times, windows 900km away were broken, even a 10kiloton Nuclear explosion has a shockwave/ of several km, a 10KT nuke has a bigger shockwave then the clash of whitebeard and Oden.

So by ur logic Whibeard=Ace, Kuma>Whitebeard so tell me, i'm tired of hearing whitebeard island cut the bullshit, you don't even watch one piece man get out here

for the shockwave part well, okay then Blackbeard when casually flexing whitebeard power he tilting the entere ocean even affecting place countries away, so said country+ as a minumin, cuz was easily between country+ to Continental depending on how you see it, all you didn't get what i meant by shockwave each of his casual hits are multi-island+ level cuz fell like u didn't get that right

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@exauce: country lvl+ is still not enough for kenpachi bud. Kenny was around that area in the hueco mundo arc while suppressed.

I said that as a minimum, it attack was betwen country+ to continental it was done casually by the way

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@exauce: no doubt WB has great AOE, but his defense and concentrated damage aren't enough to quickly defeat Kenpachi or Escanor, which is what matters here. Unless all his punches are like the island splitter and he can quickly spam them (which they aren't and he doesn't), he'll maybe draw some blood if he's able to get first strike and then get devastated by the damage output of either of the other two counterattacking. He can't take any serious attacks from the other two very well (he may still stand with grave wounds but it will still weaken him) and is at risk of a heart attack the longer the fight drags on. Whitebeard had a heart attack in less time than Escanor has in a day to be strong and lost a lot of his speed due to illness. He can't win this as long as Kenpachi is trying and it's daytime.

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Escanor kills both via passive heat while playing with his manly stache

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@rebake said:

@exauce: no doubt WB has great AOE, but his defense and concentrated damage aren't enough to quickly defeat Kenpachi or Escanor, which is what matters here. Unless all his punches are like the island splitter and he can quickly spam them (which they aren't and he doesn't), he'll maybe draw some blood if he's able to get first strike and then get devastated by the damage output of either of the other two counterattacking. He can't take any serious attacks from the other two very well (he may still stand with grave wounds but it will still weaken him) and is at risk of a heart attack the longer the fight drags on. Whitebeard had a heart attack in less time than Escanor has in a day to be strong and lost a lot of his speed due to illness. He can't win this as long as Kenpachi is trying and it's daytime.

Nope he has a nearly inpentrable defense using his quake

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His concentrate damages are more than enough to put them down

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@rebake: He actually casually split the island with a punch

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and shockwave of his casual swing alone were multi-island

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@exauce: what's in the post from the battle creator is a stabbed Whitebeard. So Marineford Whitebeard. But even using what little is known of prime WB, it just shows AOE from clashing. Kenpachi can also hit with that power without Bankai. Also, casually splitting Marineford like you say...is just AOE and the nature of quakes at work. Three days of clashing with the pirate king didn't sink a small island. At the same time, it can be argued WV would get burned by being in Escanor's presence. Akainu's concentrated damage is frankly more impressive than WB's. Escanor and Kenpachi both exceed Akainu's concentrated damage output. Not to mention Escanor's cruel sun can evaporate a lake despite its size. WB can't take that to the face or chest unlike the many other attacks he soaked. He'll miss more than half a head this time. Then we have Kenpachi who has two other forms that can make quick work of WB with raw cutting power.

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@rebake: I got ban, so sorry for the late reply

Nope him clashing with gol D is pure strengh, they didn't need to sink the island that like saying everytime goku fighs he has to destroy a planet, nope whitebeard would not get burn simply because he did not get burn In presence and getting but Akainu, who was casually vaping steel with no contanct, AKainu's concentrated damage Lol like baby cake to whitbeard attack what u talking about man? cruel sun will simply annoy considering he was litterly grabbing akainu magda that casually vape an iceberg and steel, nope Kenpachi will die by a shockwave from whitebeard

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OP should have made this Prime Whitebeard so he is actually a contender. But I still go with Kenpachi, he was putting a 5x Megamorphed Gerard Valkyrie on the backfoot by himself in bankai. If you all know what Gerard Valkyrie is about, that is impressive. The other combatants would have to focus Kenpachi otherwise he bisects both of them

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Here we go again

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@eazy2002: just a summary the a ship travels 100miles a day. It took the 4days to travel for marines to travel between those islands. So to know the total distance, 100miles× 4days= 400miles that is 643km. Since waves travel from in a circular pattern(huygens principles) that means 643km is the radius, so the diamter is obviously 2 times the radius which is 1280km. Now that we have the diameter and radius we can find the area. So the area of effect of whitebeards shockwave is 3.142×643×643=1,299,057km-squared(Area of a circle=pie×radius squared). This by far larger than many countries even nigeria one of the largest nations in africa.

Also you have to consider the wave didnt just travel over open land, it travel by the sea floor probably passing through trenches, continental shafts and tectonic plates.

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And Akainu was able to stalemate whitebeards attack despite holding back at MF

-Firstly let's start with people Akainu easily scales above in the verse...

*Broggy and Dorry(Older): Dorry was capable of easily lifting a seaking skull that was bigger than 4 volcanoes and took up 1/4 of an island and places it on luffy's back.

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Here is the size of that skull

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*Zombie Oz: Oz has been stated to be able to destroy countries and to be a continent puller

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Oars is also seen in databook images to be pulling an island

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Alright we are done here. Please note that I'm only using these scailing to solidify my point. It doesnt give akainu any direct power levels or feats.

-Now let's move over to his fight with Whitebeard. It is seen that a casual quake punch can destroy massive ice structures that dwarfed marineford island.

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Not only this but whitebeards casual quake punches were able to travel to islands thousands of km away from the island. Here is a debunk

For the Whitebeard feat, he shake a island far away(probably 100-1000km away) while using his power on MF and as we know their are only two other island who are around MF:

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And here to make clear how large the distance between each of the island are:

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"For a faster ship 80-100 miles. Anything between 50-100 miles a day is reasonable enough. You might go to 120 miles/day or so for a good ship in good conditions - that's an average 5 mph in the intended direction, which is about the highest plausible number pre-Age of Sail. A slow ship might make 30 miles/day."

The navy even had advantages to reach impel down, yet it need 4days to reach Impel down.

Let use the middle and say the Navy ship travel with 100miles a day and 4 days would be 643,738Km..

And you see nonear any island beside these four island, yet a island far away from these island get shaked by Whitebeard power:

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So with low ball we can say they travelled 10,000km which is beyond nation level(the country of Chile is 4,300km long). Also considering whitebeards attack traveled through the sea floor.

Despite all this Akainu(who was holding back in marineford) was able to negate his attacks with his own.

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You can also see the scan shows he is holding back.

-Finally let's end with Akainu vs Aokiji: Aokiji was shown to be able to instantly freeze tsunamis which dwarfed marinefor island

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This is quite impressive considering the fact that it's an instant island level feat.

And then we have this feat of aokiji being stated to have frozen a continent of ice(freezing the distance between 2 island and the ice being durable enough to last for a week

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This was the person Akainu defeated after 10days of fighting.

This is more than enough proof that akainu is a Country buster by far.

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#73 Hypnos0929  Online

Whitebeard via math. If he is making 60 foot high tsunamis from a short distance then a quake punch should kill anyone without Plot Armor, assuming he uses the same amount of strength.

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#74  Edited By exauce

@eazy2002: That actually my old account, but that a really nice scaling

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@hypnos0929: his quake punch didn't kill vice admirals (just ko'd them), Kenpachi meanwhile can chop up his enemies. Whitebeard can't handle Kenpachi's sword attacks, esp with how he was pierced by fodder. Escanor can also burn him since his heat is higher than Akainu's (mini sun vs magma is no comparison).

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#76  Edited By exauce

@rebake: They boi this dead my man, weird way of trying to lowball Barba Blanca

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Ken-chan with diffuculty.

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#78  Edited By Hypnos0929  Online

@rebake:

Like I said with no plot armor a quake kills.

Sajun Wolf, Blackbeard's crewmate/giant monster, is around 590 feet tall, officially he is 18,000cm. Hes also shorter than Marine Ford Tower, we know this because he stood next to the building.

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So let's say Marine Ford tower is approximately 600 feet tall because Wolf may be leaning down.

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These waves seem to be a third higher than the building, maybe a bit more or less because we're seeing them from a distance and at a weird angle in these image. The second image I'm guessing is a big highball because it has MF tower over 3 times shorter but that's just to prove I'm not guessing in terms of height.

So let's say the Tsunamis were 900 feet tall at the shortest and 1800 feet at the tallest. If we split the difference they're around 1350 feet tall.

The largest Tsunami in history was in Alaska at 1720 feet tall: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://geology.com/records/biggest-tsunami.shtml&ved=2ahUKEwiSvpem7froAhWVmXIEHY8eD6AQFjAIegQICxAI&usg=AOvVaw0KSjiHVZEb2B2VQRCcYnKM

Now we must address 2 things:

  1. Whitebeard's Tsunamis were frozen before they could fall, they were still rising.
  2. Tsunamis increase in size as they get closer to land.

So Whitebeard's Tsunamis weren't at full height yet got close to beating a real world record without any distance to increase its size. Our biggest Tsunami had a magnitude of 7.8. For reference here's a bit of scaling below:

A magnitude 4.0 earthquake is only equivalent to about 6 tons of TNT explosives, but because the Richter scale is a base-10 logarithmic scale, the amount of energy released increases quickly: A magnitude 5.0 earthquake is about 200 tons of TNT, magnitude 6.0 is 6,270 tons, 7.0 is 199,000 tons, 8.0 is 6,270,000 tons, and 9.0 is 99,000,000 tons of TNT. As you can imagine, 99 million tons of TNT is enough to destroy just about anything, and is the equivalent of about 25,000 nuclear bombs.

https://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/energy/energy-hurricane-volcano-earthquake3.htm

So let's say Whitebeard's quakes had the same force that created Alaska's Tsunamis. So a 7.8 is about 4,585,538 tons of TNT. That's 4 megaton nuclear bombs if you prefer 4,585 kiloton nuclear bombs.

So ask yourself if you honestly believe anyone is in league with Whitebeard if no plot armor is involved.

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>4 megatons for WB's quakes

LMAO. If you wanna use calcs, even the smaller calcs for Kenny's meteor feats is into tens to hundreds of gigatons. That's 10k to 100k times stronger that the 4 megatons from WB lol.

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