White Phoenix vs Eternity
"@StrongestOneThereIs said:i stand by"Eternity ftwSum of all things in the universe. "
eternity sum of all things in the universe, WPOTC holding a universe.
"
" obviously Hulk fanboy doesn't think so "Obviously! : )
and let me correct myself
He is the sum total of all things in all universes.
She is a part of whatever universe she was created in.
Therefore, she is a part of him.
Only his creator is above him.
And that would be One Above All.
Creating a universe is nothing.
Franklin Richards did that.
" @randumo24 said:umm, LT is above eternity and multi-eternity is the one who is all the universes, this eternity is just 616" obviously Hulk fanboy doesn't think so "Obviously! : ) and let me correct myself He is the sum total of all things in all universes. She is a part of whatever universe she was created in. Therefore, she is a part of him. Only his creator is above him. And that would be One Above All. Creating a universe is nothing. Franklin Richards did that."
" @StrongestOneThereIs said:LT is above him because he is speaks for TOAA in voice and in power." @randumo24 said:umm, LT is above eternity and multi-eternity is the one who is all the universes, this eternity is just 616 "" obviously Hulk fanboy doesn't think so "Obviously! : ) and let me correct myself He is the sum total of all things in all universes. She is a part of whatever universe she was created in. Therefore, she is a part of him. Only his creator is above him. And that would be One Above All. Creating a universe is nothing. Franklin Richards did that."
If he ever lost his position, he wouldn't be.
Eternity is Eternity. and is able to be in all places at all times (as stated in the Marvel encyclopedia)
If that's not multi, I don't know what is.
" @randumo24 said:" obviously Hulk fanboy doesn't think so "Obviously! : ) and let me correct myself He is the sum total of all things in all universes. She is a part of whatever universe she was created in. Therefore, she is a part of him. Only his creator is above him. And that would be One Above All. Creating a universe is nothing. Franklin Richards did that."
Phoenix is the sum of all life in the universe present and future. Phoenix exists in every universe and existed before the current universe was even here.
" @StrongestOneThereIs said:So was Eternity." @randumo24 said:Phoenix is the sum of all life in the universe present and future. Phoenix exists in every universe and existed before the current universe was even here. "" obviously Hulk fanboy doesn't think so "Obviously! : ) and let me correct myself He is the sum total of all things in all universes. She is a part of whatever universe she was created in. Therefore, she is a part of him. Only his creator is above him. And that would be One Above All. Creating a universe is nothing. Franklin Richards did that."
A new universe is just another aspect of himself.
He is Eternity. As in Eternal. No end.
Phoenix very existence is based on rebirth.
" @StrongestOneThereIs said:"Eternity ftwSum of all things in the universe. "
eternity sum of all things in the universe, WPOTC holding a universe.
"
Where is that from?
LOOKS NEAT XD
" @randumo24 said:no no listen, multi eternity is in all the omniverse in marvel, the eternity in 616 is a part of that thus not as strong as multi-eternity, also LT will always be more powerful then eternity due to him being the speacher for TOAA but he has his own power" @StrongestOneThereIs said:So was Eternity. A new universe is just another aspect of himself. He is Eternity. As in Eternal. No end. Phoenix very existence is based on rebirth."" @randumo24 said:Phoenix is the sum of all life in the universe present and future. Phoenix exists in every universe and existed before the current universe was even here. "" obviously Hulk fanboy doesn't think so "Obviously! : ) and let me correct myself He is the sum total of all things in all universes. She is a part of whatever universe she was created in. Therefore, she is a part of him. Only his creator is above him. And that would be One Above All. Creating a universe is nothing. Franklin Richards did that."
Show me a pic of this so-called multi-eternity.
If he he exist. It seems that any eternity would be just an extension of himself.
"@DC_Marvel_1000: I disagree. LT only has the power because he is backed by TOAA. Show me a pic of this so-called multi-eternity. If he he exist. It seems that any eternity would be just an extension of himself. "
I take that as being the explanation of a multi-verse.
If eternity is the some of the universe and their are multiple universes.
Then there would be multiple Eternities. All part of the whole. That would explain why he can be in all places at once.
So I stand by what I said.
One would have access to the power of all.
Eternity wins : 0
"I take that as being the explanation of a multi-verse. If eternity is the some of the universe and their are multiple universes. Then there would be multiple Eternities. All part of the whole. That would explain why he can be in all places at once.So I stand by what I said. One would have access to the power of all. Eternity wins : 0 "*sighs* i just showed you multi-eternity and yet you still don't belive it.............-_- come on now
I said it went along with what I believe him to be.
If you disagree. That's fine. Just tell me why and we can continue the disagreement.
Cause I find the concept of these entities interesting
and worth discussing our interpretation of what they are.
"@DC_Marvel_1000: i didn't say I didn't believe it. I said it went along with what I believe him to be. If you disagree. That's fine. Just tell me why and we can continue the disagreement. Cause I find the concept of these entities interesting and worth discussing our interpretation of what they are. "
let me break it down
eternity=sum of one universe
multi-eternity=sum of the multiverse
thus the 616 eternity is weaker then WPOTC but multi is stronger
" @DC_Marvel_1000: Now explain to me why one wouldn't be just an extension of the multiple facet being that I believe him to be? "since one is only just part of ME, one can not be as strong as them together, that does not work
" @randumo24 said:" @StrongestOneThereIs said:"Eternity ftwSum of all things in the universe. "
eternity sum of all things in the universe, WPOTC holding a universe.
"Where is that from?
"
" @StrongestOneThereIs said:if they are all part of the same being" @DC_Marvel_1000: Now explain to me why one wouldn't be just an extension of the multiple facet being that I believe him to be? "since one is only just part of ME, one can not be as strong as them together, that does not work "
they would share in the same power whatever that unlimited source is
therefore, one could have access to unlimited power
" @DC_Marvel_1000 said:" @StrongestOneThereIs said:if they are all part of the same being they would share in the same power whatever that unlimited source istherefore, one could have access to unlimited power"" @DC_Marvel_1000: Now explain to me why one wouldn't be just an extension of the multiple facet being that I believe him to be? "since one is only just part of ME, one can not be as strong as them together, that does not work "
no it can't since only them as a whole can have that power
" @StrongestOneThereIs said:and you don't believe them to be the collective consciousness on one being that" @DC_Marvel_1000 said:no it can't since only them as a whole can have that power "" @StrongestOneThereIs said:if they are all part of the same being they would share in the same power whatever that unlimited source istherefore, one could have access to unlimited power"" @DC_Marvel_1000: Now explain to me why one wouldn't be just an extension of the multiple facet being that I believe him to be? "since one is only just part of ME, one can not be as strong as them together, that does not work "
exist in all the multi-universes?
" @DC_Marvel_1000 said:" @StrongestOneThereIs said:and you don't believe them to be the collective consciousness on one being that exist in all the multi-universes?"" @DC_Marvel_1000 said:no it can't since only them as a whole can have that power "" @StrongestOneThereIs said:if they are all part of the same being they would share in the same power whatever that unlimited source istherefore, one could have access to unlimited power"" @DC_Marvel_1000: Now explain to me why one wouldn't be just an extension of the multiple facet being that I believe him to be? "since one is only just part of ME, one can not be as strong as them together, that does not work "
again the eternity of one universe is only as strong as that universe shows him to be, i mean thanos with IG was able to take down the eternity of 616 but does this mean he is as strong as the multi-eternity who is the whole multiverse? no
" @StrongestOneThereIs said:Yes, I believe it does mean just that." @DC_Marvel_1000 said:again the eternity of one universe is only as strong as that universe shows him to be, i mean thanos with IG was able to take down the eternity of 616 but does this mean he is as strong as the multi-eternity who is the whole multiverse? no "" @StrongestOneThereIs said:and you don't believe them to be the collective consciousness on one being that exist in all the multi-universes?"" @DC_Marvel_1000 said:no it can't since only them as a whole can have that power "" @StrongestOneThereIs said:if they are all part of the same being they would share in the same power whatever that unlimited source istherefore, one could have access to unlimited power"" @DC_Marvel_1000: Now explain to me why one wouldn't be just an extension of the multiple facet being that I believe him to be? "since one is only just part of ME, one can not be as strong as them together, that does not work "
That's why it took the judgement of TOAA (who is over all universes) to stop him.
Thanos had power over all save one. If he White Phoenix was there, she would have fallen as well.
I will say this.
Eternity's being seem to change from one level to another
If you accept one thing that happen in a comic as the example of what a character is or can do
then why one and not others?
Once the demon Nightmare captured Eternity.
" @DC_Marvel_1000 said:" @StrongestOneThereIs said:Yes, I believe it does mean just that. That's why it took the judgement of TOAA (who is over all universes) to stop him. Thanos had power over all save one. If he White Phoenix was there, she would have fallen as well. I will say this. Eternity's being seem to change from one level to another If you accept one thing that happen in a comic as the example of what a character is or can do then why one and not others? Once the demon Nightmare captured Eternity. "" @DC_Marvel_1000 said:again the eternity of one universe is only as strong as that universe shows him to be, i mean thanos with IG was able to take down the eternity of 616 but does this mean he is as strong as the multi-eternity who is the whole multiverse? no "" @StrongestOneThereIs said:and you don't believe them to be the collective consciousness on one being that exist in all the multi-universes?"" @DC_Marvel_1000 said:no it can't since only them as a whole can have that power "" @StrongestOneThereIs said:if they are all part of the same being they would share in the same power whatever that unlimited source istherefore, one could have access to unlimited power"" @DC_Marvel_1000: Now explain to me why one wouldn't be just an extension of the multiple facet being that I believe him to be? "since one is only just part of ME, one can not be as strong as them together, that does not work "
ok let me break it down like this then
universe<<<<<<<<<mutliverse
eternity of 616=universe>>>>>>>>ME=multiverse
universe 616 is part of the mutil-verse
616 Eternity is part of the multi-verse Eternity
both are parts of one whole
@randumo24 said:
" If you summed up all the power from each universe then you'd have to do it for phoenix as well. "
does she exist in all universes?
" @DC_Marvel_1000: I break it down like this:ehhhhh but they are not as strong as with they are a whole, i mean is one of the IG gems just as strong as them together? no
universe 616 is part of the mutil-verse
616 Eternity is part of the multi-verse Eternity
both are parts of one whole
@randumo24 said:" If you summed up all the power from each universe then you'd have to do it for phoenix as well. "does she exist in all universes?"
"@StrongestOneThereIs said:" @DC_Marvel_1000 said:ok let me break it down like this then universe<<<<<<<<<mutliverse eternity of 616=universe>>>>>>>>ME=multiverse "" @StrongestOneThereIs said:Yes, I believe it does mean just that. That's why it took the judgement of TOAA (who is over all universes) to stop him. Thanos had power over all save one. If he White Phoenix was there, she would have fallen as well. I will say this. Eternity's being seem to change from one level to another If you accept one thing that happen in a comic as the example of what a character is or can do then why one and not others? Once the demon Nightmare captured Eternity. "" @DC_Marvel_1000 said:again the eternity of one universe is only as strong as that universe shows him to be, i mean thanos with IG was able to take down the eternity of 616 but does this mean he is as strong as the multi-eternity who is the whole multiverse? no "" @StrongestOneThereIs said:and you don't believe them to be the collective consciousness on one being that exist in all the multi-universes?"" @DC_Marvel_1000 said:no it can't since only them as a whole can have that power "" @StrongestOneThereIs said:if they are all part of the same being they would share in the same power whatever that unlimited source istherefore, one could have access to unlimited power"" @DC_Marvel_1000: Now explain to me why one wouldn't be just an extension of the multiple facet being that I believe him to be? "since one is only just part of ME, one can not be as strong as them together, that does not work "
lol
"@StrongestOneThereIs said:" @DC_Marvel_1000: I break it down like this:ehhhhh but they are not as strong as with they are a whole, i mean is one of the IG gems just as strong as them together? no "
universe 616 is part of the mutil-verse
616 Eternity is part of the multi-verse Eternity
both are parts of one whole
@randumo24 said:" If you summed up all the power from each universe then you'd have to do it for phoenix as well. "does she exist in all universes?"
yea even multi eternity wouldn't stand a chance against all the phoenix avatars
Creating a universe is not a good show since Franklin Richards did it.
What else do you have as to what she can do?
I only have the comic that you took the pic from.
" @randumo24: Then it seems that it comes down to who you believe is more powerful. Creating a universe is not a good show since Franklin Richards did it. What else do you have as to what she can do? I only have the comic that you took the pic from."
repairing a universe is a more powerful demonstration of power than just creating one IMO
Eternity has unlimited power
I assume the source is from how he exist
and I believe that existence to be multi-facet
Marvel hasn't really gone into explanation of what he is (it varies all the time)
As far as the gems. They are not parts of one gem.
But separate gems that when put together are more powerful than they are alone.
if you know how to create a universe, why would you not know how to repair one?
I don't know anything about a multi-eternity. As far as I know it was just a term used to describe the several eternities that exist.
" @DC_Marvel_1000 said:Yes he would."@StrongestOneThereIs said:" @DC_Marvel_1000: I break it down like this:ehhhhh but they are not as strong as with they are a whole, i mean is one of the IG gems just as strong as them together? no "
universe 616 is part of the mutil-verse
616 Eternity is part of the multi-verse Eternity
both are parts of one whole
@randumo24 said:" If you summed up all the power from each universe then you'd have to do it for phoenix as well. "does she exist in all universes?"
yea even multi eternity wouldn't stand a chance against all the phoenix avatars
"
" @randumo24 said:qft" @DC_Marvel_1000 said:Yes he would. ""@StrongestOneThereIs said:" @DC_Marvel_1000: I break it down like this:ehhhhh but they are not as strong as with they are a whole, i mean is one of the IG gems just as strong as them together? no "
universe 616 is part of the mutil-verse
616 Eternity is part of the multi-verse Eternity
both are parts of one whole
@randumo24 said:" If you summed up all the power from each universe then you'd have to do it for phoenix as well. "does she exist in all universes?"
yea even multi eternity wouldn't stand a chance against all the phoenix avatars
"
" @DC_Marvel_1000 said:The Eternity you see in 616 is just an avatar of the Multi-Eternity, he's able to draw upon its power but not all of it." @StrongestOneThereIs said:if they are all part of the same being they would share in the same power whatever that unlimited source istherefore, one could have access to unlimited power "" @DC_Marvel_1000: Now explain to me why one wouldn't be just an extension of the multiple facet being that I believe him to be? "since one is only just part of ME, one can not be as strong as them together, that does not work "
Multi Eternity > Phweonix Force > WPOTC > Eternity > Any Pheonix who can't destroy a Universe.
I belive that anyone who can destroy universe is more powerfull than Eternity,because Eternity is universe itself.
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